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Carmen Vega

Can I take a Standard Deduction when MFS with an NRA spouse who's filing separately?

I recently got married to my wife who was on an F1 student visa last year. She worked a few small jobs in the US earning about $8k total. We decided to file Married Filing Separately (MFS) because she has substantial foreign assets that she's still working on making US-compliant. She hasn't received her green card yet, so she's filing as a Non-Resident Alien (NRA). Here's where I'm confused - when trying to claim my deduction, the tax software is telling me I have to take an itemized deduction to match what my wife is doing. The SALT deductions are capped at $5k, and I don't have any other itemizable deductions, which means I'm potentially losing thousands of dollars. I know NRAs don't get a standard deduction, but this seems like a huge oversight in the tax code. I can't be the only person married to an NRA spouse who files separately. Is there any way I can opt-out of itemizing for my wife so I could take the standard deduction myself? I asked my accountant about this, but they seemed unsure about handling this specific situation with an NRA spouse.

This is actually a common misunderstanding when dealing with MFS situations involving an NRA spouse. The rule about spouses having to both itemize or both take the standard deduction only applies when both spouses are filing US tax returns. Since your wife is filing as a Non-Resident Alien (NRA), different rules apply. If your spouse is a nonresident alien and you're filing separately (which is your only option if they're not choosing to be treated as a resident), you can claim the standard deduction regardless of what your spouse does. Check IRS Publication 519 (U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens) which covers this situation. The tax software you're using might not be accurately accounting for the NRA status of your spouse, which is why it's giving you incorrect guidance about having to itemize.

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Wow, thank you so much! I've been stressing about this for weeks. So to confirm, I can just claim the full standard deduction for MFS ($13,850 for 2023) even though my wife is filing as an NRA? Does this mean I need to file my taxes by paper instead of using the software that's giving me incorrect guidance?

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Yes, you can claim the full standard deduction for MFS ($13,850 for 2023) even though your wife is filing as an NRA. The rule requiring both spouses to use the same deduction method doesn't apply when one spouse is a nonresident alien filing separately. You should be able to file electronically, but you might need to find different tax software that properly handles this situation. Some tax programs have limitations when dealing with these specific international scenarios. You could try TaxAct or TaxSlayer as they tend to handle international situations better, or consult with a tax professional who specializes in international taxation if you want to be certain.

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Just want to share another option - you might want to consider whether your wife could elect to be treated as a resident alien for tax purposes (using IRC 6013(g)). This is sometimes called the "tax residency election." If you do this, you could potentially file jointly, which would likely give you a better tax outcome overall than MFS. The foreign assets would need to be reported properly, of course, but it might be worth exploring if the compliance burden isn't too high. My wife was on F1 too, and we ran the numbers both ways (MFS with me taking standard deduction vs. MFJ with worldwide income reporting) and found that joint filing saved us about $2,300 despite having to report some foreign assets.

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That's interesting! I hadn't considered that option. Would this election mean we'd have to report all of her foreign assets immediately? That's what we were trying to avoid this year since she's still sorting through inheritances and family holdings that aren't well documented yet. How complicated was the process of making this election? Did you need specialized help?

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Yes, making the election would require reporting all worldwide income and assets immediately. If she has complex foreign assets that aren't well documented yet, you're probably making the right choice by filing separately for now. The election itself isn't terribly complicated - you just attach a statement to your tax return making the election under IRC 6013(g). However, the reporting requirements that come with it can be complex depending on what foreign assets are involved. We had fairly simple situations (just some bank accounts and a small investment account), so we managed with TaxAct and some research. Talk to your wife about a timeline for getting those assets organized. Once everything is properly documented, you might find that the tax savings from filing jointly outweigh the compliance costs in future years.

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Don't forget about the potential FBAR and FATCA filing requirements regardless of how you file! If your wife has foreign financial accounts that exceed $10,000 at any point during the year, she needs to file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) even as an NRA with US income. And if she becomes a resident alien (either through the election mentioned above or getting her green card), the requirements get even stricter. Make sure you're addressing these foreign reporting requirements properly - the penalties for non-compliance are BRUTAL.

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This is so important! My brother got hit with a $10,000 penalty for failing to file FBAR for just one year when his foreign accounts were over the threshold. The IRS does not mess around with these foreign account reporting requirements.

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Has anyone considered the fact that the OP's wife might actually be a RESIDENT alien for tax purposes despite being a nonresident for immigration purposes? F1 students automatically become resident aliens for tax purposes if they've been in the US for parts of 5 calendar years. This is called the Substantial Presence Test exemption for F1 students, and it expires after 5 calendar years. If she's been here that long, she might actually need to file as a resident alien regardless of her visa status or green card situation.

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That's a really good point that I hadn't considered. She's only been here for 3 years though, so I believe she still qualifies as a nonresident alien under the F1 student exemption to the Substantial Presence Test. But I'll double-check the exact days to make sure we're calculating it correctly. This tax stuff gets incredibly complicated with international situations!

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Just wanted to add another perspective on this - if you're still unsure about the standard deduction eligibility, you might want to look into getting a Private Letter Ruling (PLR) from the IRS for your specific situation. I know it sounds like overkill, but given the potential tax savings you mentioned (thousands of dollars), it might be worth the cost and time investment. A PLR would give you definitive IRS guidance on whether you can take the standard deduction while your NRA spouse files separately. The process typically takes 6-9 months and costs around $10,000, but if you're looking at significant tax savings year after year (especially if your wife remains an NRA for several more years), it could provide valuable certainty. Plus, you'd have official IRS documentation to support your position if you're ever audited. Just another option to consider alongside the excellent advice already given in this thread!

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While I appreciate the thoroughness of suggesting a PLR, I think that might be overkill for this situation. The tax code and IRS publications are pretty clear on this issue - when one spouse is an NRA filing separately, the other spouse can take the standard deduction. $10,000 for a PLR seems excessive when multiple people in this thread have confirmed this with IRS agents directly, and the guidance in Publication 519 addresses this scenario. The savings would have to be pretty substantial over many years to justify that cost. I'd recommend starting with the free resources (Publication 519) and maybe getting phone confirmation from the IRS through one of the services mentioned here before going the expensive PLR route. Save that for truly ambiguous situations where the tax code isn't clear.

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I've been following this discussion and want to emphasize how crucial it is to get this right. I made a similar mistake a few years ago when my husband was on an H1B visa - I incorrectly itemized because I thought we both had to use the same deduction method. The key distinction that several people have mentioned is absolutely correct: the "matching deduction" rule only applies when BOTH spouses are filing U.S. tax returns. Since your wife is filing as an NRA, you're not bound by her deduction limitations. One thing I'd add is to keep excellent documentation of your decision-making process. Save screenshots of the relevant sections from Publication 519, and if you do speak with an IRS agent (whether through the services mentioned or on your own), document that conversation with dates and reference numbers. This will be invaluable if you're ever questioned about your filing decisions. Also, double-check that your wife's $8k in U.S. income doesn't push her into any unexpected filing requirements or make her subject to different rules than you're anticipating. Sometimes small details can have big implications in international tax situations.

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This is excellent advice about documentation! I'm definitely going to save all the relevant publication references and any correspondence I have about this decision. One question about my wife's $8k income - she had taxes withheld from her paychecks, so she's actually expecting a small refund when she files her 1040NR. Does this change anything about my ability to take the standard deduction, or does it just confirm that she needs to file as an NRA? I'm also wondering if there are any state tax implications I should be considering. We're in California, which has its own rules about standard deductions and filing status requirements.

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