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Ava Johnson

Filing Jointly vs Separately for 2024 Tax Filing with S Corp Spouse - Need Help!

I could use some advice about our 2024 taxes. Got married in July 2024 and also relocated for a new job opportunity. Both of my positions during 2024 were W-2 employment. My spouse works as a graphic designer with an LLC that's filing as an S Corp. We initially thought filing separately would be the best route since we weren't married for the entire year. However, as I'm working through my tax software, it's telling me that if we file separately, we both need to choose the same deduction method - either we both itemize or we both take the standard deduction. This is confusing me because my spouse obviously needs to itemize for their business expenses, but I don't really have anything to itemize and the standard deduction would be better for me. Does this rule actually exist? I thought the whole point of filing separately was that we could each choose what works best for our individual situations. Are we missing something here or misunderstanding the rules? Any insight would be super helpful before we finalize everything!

Miguel Diaz

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Yes, this is actually a real rule that surprises a lot of newly married couples! When you file as "Married Filing Separately," both spouses must either take the standard deduction or both must itemize. It's one of those quirky tax rules that doesn't seem intuitive. If your spouse itemizes deductions on their return, you must also itemize on yours - even if your standard deduction would be higher. This is specifically mentioned in IRS rules to prevent certain types of tax advantages. Since your spouse has the S Corp, there's an important distinction to make: Business expenses for the S Corp are reported on the business tax return (Form 1120-S), not as itemized deductions on your spouse's personal return. The business expenses reduce the business income that flows through to your spouse's personal return. Itemized deductions are personal expenses like mortgage interest, charitable contributions, etc. So your spouse might not actually need to itemize on their personal return unless they have substantial personal deductions that exceed the standard deduction amount.

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Ava Johnson

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Wait, so the business expenses would go on the business return and not count as "itemizing" on our personal returns? That changes things completely! So we could both take the standard deduction and she would still deduct all her business expenses on the S Corp return? I'm totally new to this business tax stuff so I think I've been conflating business deductions with personal itemized deductions.

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Miguel Diaz

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That's exactly right! Business expenses for an S Corp are reported on the business tax return (Form 1120-S), not as itemized deductions on a personal return. The S Corp calculates its net income after all business expenses, and then that net income flows to your spouse's personal tax return via Schedule K-1. The personal decision to itemize or take the standard deduction is completely separate from business expenses. So yes, you could both take the standard deduction on your personal returns while still fully deducting all legitimate business expenses on the S Corp return. Many business owners find that the standard deduction is actually better for their personal returns unless they have significant mortgage interest, medical expenses, or charitable donations.

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Amina Sy

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A tip that might help - run your taxes BOTH ways (jointly and separately) before deciding. My husband has an S-Corp too, and we discovered filing jointly saved us around $3,200 even though I was convinced separately would be better. The marriage date doesn't actually matter for tax status. If you're married on December 31, 2024, the IRS considers you married for the entire tax year. Weird but true!

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Ava Johnson

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That's really helpful - I had no idea about the December 31 rule! If you don't mind me asking, did you find that filing jointly helped mostly because of tax bracket differences or was it due to certain credits?

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Amina Sy

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For us, it was a combination of factors. The biggest benefit came from the difference in tax brackets - my income "filled up" the lower brackets when combined with some of my husband's income, which kept more of our total income in lower tax brackets than if we filed separately. We also qualified for some credits that are either reduced or eliminated when filing separately, including the child and dependent care credit (which we needed for our daughter). Plus, filing separately would have meant losing some of our itemized deductions due to the percentage of AGI thresholds. When we ran both scenarios, jointly saved us about $3,200.

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Has anyone else had problems with tax software not explaining the S Corp stuff clearly? I feel like most of them are designed for simple W-2 situations and get really confusing with business income. Im about to throw my laptop out the window lol

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YES! I found TurboTax completely misleading for our S Corp situation. Switched to TaxAct which handled it better but still wasn't great at explaining the MFJ vs MFS options with business income involved.

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NebulaNomad

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I've had good experiences with H&R Block's premium online version for this specific situation. They have a separate business section that handles S Corps properly and explains how it flows to your personal return. Bit more expensive but worth it for the clarity.

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