Can I deduct previous years' business startup costs on Schedule C if I never filed taxes for the failed business?
My wife started a business back in 2017 that never really took off. She invested about $6,800 in startup costs but the business never generated any revenue and actually lost money from day one. The thing is, we never filed a Schedule C for any of those years, so we never claimed the $5,000 startup cost deduction or any other business expenses from that venture. Now we're looking at owing a decent amount in taxes this year due to my W2 income, and I'm wondering if there's any way to use those unclaimed startup expenses from her failed business to offset our tax liability this year? Can those prior year startup costs that we never deducted be applied against my regular income now? Would really appreciate any insights since we're trying to reduce our tax hit for 2025.
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Oliver Zimmermann
So here's what you need to know about startup costs - they're typically deducted in the year the business begins, with the first $5,000 being deductible immediately and the rest amortized over 15 years. But there's a catch with trying to claim them now. Since your wife's business started in 2017 and you never filed a Schedule C for it, you're essentially trying to claim deductions from tax years that are closed (generally the IRS allows amended returns only within 3 years of filing). Unfortunately, you can't just pull those old startup costs and apply them to your current year taxes against your W2 income. If the business was technically still operating but dormant and is now generating income, that would be a different story. But based on what you've described, it sounds like the business effectively ended years ago without ever filing returns.
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Natasha Volkova
•What if the business never officially closed and could be considered "still in startup phase" all these years? Couldn't they then claim the costs now since it's technically the same business still trying to get off the ground?
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Oliver Zimmermann
•If the business was genuinely in a continuous startup phase with documented attempts to generate income throughout these years, there might be an argument there, but it's a tough one to make after several years of inactivity. The IRS generally expects a business to show some profit in 3 out of 5 years to avoid being classified as a hobby. For a business that showed no activity for multiple years, suddenly claiming it was in "extended startup" would likely face scrutiny. If you were to restart the exact same business now, it would typically be considered a new business venture rather than a continuation of the old one.
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Javier Torres
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Emma Davis
•That sounds useful, but does it actually give advice that's specific to your situation? I've tried other tax help sites and they just give generic responses. How detailed does it get with complicated tax questions like this?
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CosmicCaptain
•I'm a bit skeptical. How does this differ from just talking to a regular tax professional? And does it actually deal with IRS regulations about claiming expenses from businesses that never filed returns?
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Ravi Sharma
Another option worth exploring might be if any of those costs could qualify as Section 195 startup expenses. If some portion of your wife's business actually continued in any form, there might be a way to still capture some value. I had a client in a somewhat similar situation where we were able to classify certain expenses differently.
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Amina Toure
•Could you explain more about Section 195 and how it might apply here? Our situation is my wife's crafting business that she tried to start in 2017, spent money on equipment and supplies, but never got any customers. We haven't officially dissolved anything but haven't done anything with it either since about late 2018.
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Ravi Sharma
•Section 195 covers business startup costs and allows you to deduct up to $5,000 in the first year of business with amounts over that being amortized over 15 years. The key issue in your case is proving continuous business intent rather than a hobby or abandoned venture. Since you haven't officially closed the business but haven't actively pursued it since 2018, it would be difficult to convince the IRS this is the same continuous business after several years of inactivity. Your best approach would be to document any attempts to revive or maintain the business during those years, however minimal. Otherwise, if you restart the crafting business now, it would likely be considered a new venture rather than a continuation of the 2017 business.
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Freya Thomsen
If I was in your shoes, I'd consider starting up the business again for real this time, maybe using some of the same equipment or concept. Wouldn't that give you a legit reason to claim some of those costs as part of the "new" startup phase?
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Omar Zaki
•Careful with that approach. The IRS isn't dumb and would likely view that as two separate businesses if there was a multi-year gap with no activity. They could see it as trying to artificially claim old expenses against new income and that's asking for an audit.
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Arjun Kurti
Unfortunately, you're likely out of luck for claiming those 2017 startup costs against your current tax liability. The IRS has strict rules about when business expenses can be deducted, and there's generally a 3-year statute of limitations for amending returns to claim missed deductions. Since your wife's business never filed any Schedule C returns and has been inactive since 2018, the IRS would view this as an abandoned business venture rather than an ongoing concern. You can't carry forward unclaimed business expenses from a defunct business to offset current year W-2 income - business losses can only offset business income or be carried forward within the same continuing business entity. Your best bet at this point would be to look for legitimate current-year deductions you might have missed, or consider whether either of you could start a side business this year that would allow for legitimate business deductions going forward. But those old 2017 costs are unfortunately beyond the reach of current tax planning.
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