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Olivia Martinez

Can Schedule C Business Losses From Startup Costs Be Deducted Against W2 Income?

I'm going to be leaving my full-time job in a few months but will still have some W2 income for 2025. I'm launching my own consulting business and need to purchase several high-end laptops and specialized computer equipment to get started. The total investment will be around $6,500. My question is whether these startup costs on Schedule C can be deducted on Schedule 1 to reduce my overall AGI, even though my business probably won't generate any revenue until next year? The equipment will be 100% for business use. Can I use these business losses to offset my W2 income this year, or do I have to carry everything forward to next year when I (hopefully) start making money? I've heard mixed things about deducting losses from a business that doesn't have income yet.

Charlie Yang

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Yes, you can generally deduct legitimate business startup costs on Schedule C even if your business doesn't generate revenue in the first year. These losses will flow to Schedule 1 and can offset your W2 income, potentially reducing your overall tax liability. For the computer equipment specifically, you have options. You can either deduct it all at once using Section 179 expensing (up to certain limits) or bonus depreciation, or depreciate it over several years. Just make sure you're actually "in business" - meaning you're actively working toward making a profit, not just setting things up as a hobby. Keep detailed records showing the equipment is exclusively for business use. The IRS tends to scrutinize business losses that offset W2 income, especially in the first year of operation.

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Grace Patel

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What exactly counts as "actively working toward making a profit"? If I buy equipment and set up a website but don't get any clients until next year, will that be enough? And is there a limit to how much loss I can claim against my W2?

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Charlie Yang

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The IRS looks at your overall business activities and intentions. Creating a business plan, marketing your services, actively seeking clients, having business cards/website, and keeping proper business records all demonstrate you're genuinely pursuing profit rather than a hobby. There's no specific dollar limit on business losses that can offset W2 income. However, there are "hobby loss rules" where if your business doesn't show a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years, the IRS may classify it as a hobby rather than a business. Additionally, be aware of the "excess business loss limitation" which may apply if your total business losses exceed $300,000 (married filing jointly) or $150,000 (single).

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Ava Harris

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Don't forget about self-employment taxes! While you can offset your income tax with business losses, you won't have SE tax if you don't have net earnings. But then when your business becomes profitable you'll have to pay both income tax AND self-employment tax on those profits. Also check your state tax rules. Some states are less friendly about business loss deductions than federal. I live in California and they have their own special rules that limited how much of my business loss I could deduct.

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Good point about state taxes - I didn't even think about that. Do you know if there's a minimum amount of income my business needs to make before I have to worry about self-employment taxes? And would the same deduction rules apply to state returns?

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Ava Harris

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Self-employment tax kicks in once you have $400 or more in net earnings from self-employment for the year. So if your business operates at a loss your first year, you won't owe SE tax. State rules vary significantly. Most states follow federal rules, but some (like California) have their own limitations on business loss deductions. For example, California has a modified version of the excess business loss limitation. You should check your specific state's department of revenue website or consult with a local tax professional who knows your state's quirks.

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Jacob Lee

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Make sure you actually set up your business properly! Don't just start buying stuff and assume the IRS will see it as a business. Get an EIN, open a separate business bank account, maybe file for an LLC depending on your situation. I made the mistake of mixing personal and business expenses my first year and got audited. Total nightmare trying to prove what was actually for business vs personal. I'm not saying you need to incorporate right away but at minimum keep EVERYTHING separate.

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An LLC isn't necessarily needed though. I've been operating as a sole proprietor for years just reporting on Schedule C. But 100% agree about separate accounts and keeping meticulous records!

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Noah Torres

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One thing to keep in mind is the timing of when you can actually deduct these startup costs. The IRS distinguishes between true "startup costs" (like market research, legal fees to set up the business) and regular business expenses once you've begun operations. Equipment purchases like laptops are generally considered regular business expenses once you're actively in business, not startup costs. The good news is you can typically deduct equipment immediately under Section 179 or bonus depreciation rules, but make sure you're actually "in business" when you buy it - meaning you're actively pursuing clients and revenue. If you buy everything months before you start marketing your services, the IRS might question whether you were truly in business yet. Consider timing your equipment purchases closer to when you actually begin operating. Document everything showing you're actively working toward generating income!

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This is really helpful - I hadn't thought about the timing aspect! So if I'm planning to leave my job in a few months, should I wait until I'm actually out and actively marketing before buying the equipment? Or would having a business plan and website ready beforehand be enough to show I'm "in business"? Also, you mentioned Section 179 vs bonus depreciation - is there any advantage to choosing one over the other for computer equipment, or does it not really matter for tax purposes?

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