Can I calculate my pre-tax income from my post-tax amount using a formula?
I'm trying to do some financial planning for next year and wondering if there's a simple formula I could use to figure out what my pre-tax income would be if I know my post-tax amount? Like, I know what I want my take-home pay to be after all deductions, but I need to figure out what my actual salary needs to be to hit that target. Is there some standard calculation or formula that can work backwards from net income to gross? I've tried googling but I'm getting confused with all the different tax situations. Anyone know a reliable way to do this without having to guess and check a bunch of times?
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Sean Kelly
There isn't a simple universal formula because taxes have progressive brackets and there are so many factors that affect your final tax bill. But you can work backwards with reasonable accuracy if you know your tax situation. First, make a list of all your deductions - federal income tax, state tax, Social Security (6.2% up to the wage base limit), Medicare (1.45% with additional 0.9% for higher incomes), retirement contributions, health insurance, etc. Then work backwards by dividing your post-tax amount by (1 minus your effective tax rate). For example, if your effective combined withholding rate is about 25%, and you want $75,000 after tax, you'd calculate: $75,000 ÷ (1 - 0.25) = $100,000 pre-tax income. But this is just an approximation because of the progressive tax brackets.
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Zara Malik
•But wouldn't you need to know your tax bracket first to calculate this? And wouldn't knowing your tax bracket require knowing your income, which is what we're trying to figure out? Seems circular to me.
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Sean Kelly
•That's a good point about the circular nature. You'd need to use an iterative approach to get more precision. Start with an estimate of your tax bracket based on your target post-tax income, then calculate the pre-tax estimate. Check if that pre-tax estimate would actually put you in a different bracket, and if so, recalculate with the new bracket. For most people, using a blended effective tax rate (total taxes/total income from last year) gives a reasonable starting point if your situation hasn't changed drastically. Online calculators can help with this too since they already have the tax brackets programmed in.
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Luca Greco
I was in your exact situation last year trying to figure out what salary I needed to negotiate to hit my budget goals. I discovered this tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that basically solved this problem for me. You can input your desired after-tax income, and it works backwards to tell you the pre-tax amount. What I found most useful was that it accounts for all the complications like tax brackets, standard vs itemized deductions, and even state taxes. It gave me a really clear picture of what salary I needed to target instead of just guessing.
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Nia Thompson
•Does it handle things like 401k contributions and HSA deductions too? Those are pre-tax and really affect my take-home pay.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Seems like just another tax calculator. How's it different from the free ones from TurboTax or H&R Block?
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Luca Greco
•It absolutely handles 401k contributions and HSA deductions. That was actually one of my main concerns too because I max out both, and it factors those in as pre-tax reductions before calculating the tax on the remainder. As for how it's different from the free calculators, I found it was more comprehensive and especially good at working backwards from the end result you want. Most calculators just tell you what your take-home will be based on your gross income, not the other way around. It also saves different scenarios so you can compare options side by side, which helped me see the impact of different retirement contribution levels.
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Mateo Rodriguez
I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here, and I'm actually impressed. I was skeptical since I've been burned by "free" tax tools before that just try to upsell you, but this one genuinely solved my problem. I was freelancing and trying to figure out how much I needed to charge clients to end up with my target income after self-employment taxes. The reverse calculation feature saved me hours of trial and error with tax bracket math. It even helped me optimize my SEP IRA contributions to lower my tax burden while still hitting my post-tax income goals.
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Aisha Hussain
If you're getting frustrated with the IRS website or phone lines while trying to get tax questions answered for your calculations, I'd recommend trying Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I spent days trying to get through to the IRS to ask about some specific deductions that would affect my pre-tax/post-tax calculations. Claimyr basically holds your place in the IRS phone queue and calls you when an agent is about to pick up. Saved me from wasting hours listening to hold music. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c After getting accurate info from the IRS, my calculations were much more precise than just guessing at my effective tax rate.
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GalacticGladiator
•Wait, so you pay someone else to wait on hold for you? How does that even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously horrible...
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Ethan Brown
•This sounds like a scam. Why would I pay for something that should be free? The IRS is a government agency that's supposed to help taxpayers.
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Aisha Hussain
•The system basically uses automated technology to wait in the queue for you. It monitors the IRS phone line and then calls you when it detects a human is about to answer. So you're not paying someone else to physically wait - it's a tech solution. The IRS phone system is definitely horrible, that's exactly why this service exists. My last attempt before using this, I waited 2.5 hours and then got disconnected. This way I could go about my day and just pick up when they called to say an agent was ready.
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Ethan Brown
I need to publicly eat my words about Claimyr. After calling the IRS myself multiple times and getting nowhere (literally 3+ hour waits before disconnections), I broke down and tried it. Got through to an actual IRS person in under an hour while I was working on other things. The agent clarified exactly how to calculate backwards from net to gross income for my situation (which involves some rental income and self-employment). Having the right information made the calculation much more accurate than just guessing at tax rates.
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Yuki Yamamoto
Excel has been my go-to for this. I created a spreadsheet that accounts for all tax brackets, deductions, etc and then used Goal Seek to solve for the pre-tax income. You basically set up all your tax calculations in the spreadsheet, then tell Goal Seek "make this cell (post-tax income) equal X by changing this cell (pre-tax income)". Not super simple to set up the first time, but once you have it, you can reuse it every year with updated tax brackets.
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Carmen Ruiz
•Would you be willing to share your spreadsheet template? I've been trying to create something similar but struggling with getting the tax brackets right.
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Yuki Yamamoto
•I'd be happy to share a sanitized version of it, but I should warn you that it's customized for my situation (NY state taxes, certain deductions, etc). The key to getting the tax brackets right is to use nested IF statements or VLOOKUP to determine which rate applies to which portion of income. For federal taxes, I have separate calculations for each bracket, then sum them up. For example, I calculate tax on the first $10,275 at 10%, then the amount between $10,275 and $41,775 at 12%, and so on.
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Andre Lefebvre
i tried a simple way - just take last years w2 and calculate the percentage that was taken out. then use that to work backwards. like if they took 22% total from all taxes and stuff, and you want $50k after tax, you need to make around $64,100 before tax. ($50k ÷ 0.78 = $64,102.56). worked close enough for me for planning
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Zoe Dimitriou
•That only works if your income and deductions stay roughly the same year to year. If you get a big raise or your situation changes (like marriage, kids, buying a house), your effective tax rate could change significantly.
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QuantumQuest
Has anybody tried using the IRS withholding calculator and just running it multiple times with different incomes until you hit your target take-home pay? Seems tedious but might be more accurate than estimating.
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Jamal Anderson
•That's like the most inefficient way possible to solve this problem lol. But I guess it would work. You'd probably need to run it like 10+ times to zero in on the right number.
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Mei Zhang
•There are actually tax calculators specifically designed to do reverse calculations. ADP has a paycheck calculator that can do this - you put in your net pay and it calculates gross. SmartAsset has something similar.
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Mei Zhang
I've been dealing with this same issue for years as someone who switched from salary to contract work. The most reliable approach I've found is using a combination of methods for accuracy. First, I use the IRS withholding calculator as a baseline - it's actually pretty good once you get the hang of it. Then I cross-reference with one of those reverse calculators (like the ADP one someone mentioned) to see if I'm in the ballpark. The key thing I learned is that you really need to account for ALL deductions, not just taxes. Health insurance premiums, retirement contributions, even things like parking or transit benefits can significantly impact your take-home. I keep a spreadsheet with all my deductions from last year's pay stub and adjust for any changes I expect. One trick that's helped me: if you're employed (not self-employed), your HR department might be able to run scenarios for you using their payroll system. I asked mine "what would my take-home be if I made $X?" for a few different amounts, which gave me the data points to work backwards more accurately.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
•This is really comprehensive advice! I especially like the idea about asking HR to run scenarios - I never thought about that but it makes total sense since they have all the payroll software already set up. That would probably give you the most accurate numbers since it's using the actual system that would calculate your paychecks. The point about accounting for ALL deductions is so important too. I was only thinking about taxes but forgot about things like health insurance and 401k contributions which can be a pretty big chunk of your gross pay. Thanks for sharing your experience with the contract work transition - that must have been a steep learning curve!
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Zara Rashid
This is such a practical question! I've been in the same boat trying to plan my finances. One thing I'd add to all the great suggestions here is to consider using the IRS's own tax withholding estimator (https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator) but in reverse - you can input different gross income amounts until you find one that gets you close to your desired take-home. Also, don't forget about state taxes if you're in a state that has them - they can really throw off your calculations if you're only thinking federal. And if you're planning for next year, make sure to check if there are any tax bracket changes or standard deduction adjustments for the upcoming tax year. For a quick and dirty estimate, I usually take my desired net income and divide by 0.75 (assuming roughly 25% total withholdings), then fine-tune from there. It's not perfect but gets you in the right neighborhood to start with.
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Mateo Martinez
•The 25% rule of thumb is a good starting point! I've been using something similar but found it can be off by quite a bit depending on your situation. For example, if you're in a higher tax bracket or live in a high-tax state like California or New York, you might need to use 0.70 or even 0.65 instead of 0.75. Also really appreciate you mentioning to check for tax year changes - I made that mistake last year and my calculations were off because I was using the old standard deduction amounts. The IRS usually publishes the updated brackets and standard deductions in late fall, so it's worth double-checking those if you're planning for the following year.
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