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Same issue here! Filed about a month ago and WMR just keeps saying "information doesn't match" even though I've triple-checked everything. Called the IRS helpline and they said returns are taking 6-8 weeks this year due to increased volume. Hang in there - it's frustrating but totally normal right now. The system updates once daily (usually overnight) so checking multiple times a day won't help.

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Chloe Taylor

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Thanks for sharing that info about the 6-8 week timeframe! I was starting to panic thinking something was wrong with my return. Did they give you any other tips when you called? I'm debating whether it's worth trying to get through to them or just waiting it out.

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Ava Thompson

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When I called they basically said the same thing - just be patient and keep checking WMR once a week max. They did mention that if you don't see any updates after 21 days from your accepted date, then you can call back for a case review. The wait times were brutal though - like 45+ minutes on hold. Honestly might be better to just wait unless you're past that 21 day mark!

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Omar Hassan

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I feel your pain! Same exact thing happened to me last year - WMR kept giving me errors for weeks even though I knew I entered everything correctly. Turns out my return was just stuck in manual review for some random reason (nothing was actually wrong with it). Eventually it processed and I got my refund, but it took about 6 weeks total. The waiting is the worst part because you have no idea what's going on! Try not to stress too much - the fact that your return was accepted is a good sign.

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Something else to consider - if your wife truly has zero income, filing jointly with the injured spouse form is almost always better than filing separately. When my wife wasn't working last year, I ran the numbers both ways and filing separately would have cost us about $4,200 more in taxes!

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That's good to know. Does the injured spouse form work for state taxes too or just federal?

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Injured Spouse Relief is only for federal taxes - it's an IRS form. For state taxes, each state has its own rules about debt offset and spouse protection. Some states have similar provisions, but you'd need to check with your specific state's tax department. Most states will follow the federal injured spouse allocation if they intercept your state refund for the same debt, but it's not automatic.

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Based on your situation with your wife's child support debt, you definitely need Injured Spouse Relief (Form 8379), not Innocent Spouse Relief. The key difference is that Injured Spouse protects your portion of a joint refund from being taken for your spouse's pre-marital debts, while Innocent Spouse protects you from tax liability when your spouse did something wrong on the tax return itself. Since your wife has no income, filing jointly with the Injured Spouse form will almost certainly save you money compared to filing separately. You'll keep beneficial tax rates, standard deduction amounts, and credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit or Child Tax Credit that you'd lose filing separately. The Injured Spouse form basically tells the IRS "hey, part of this refund belongs to me and shouldn't go toward my spouse's debt." They'll calculate what portion of the refund comes from your income, withholdings, and credits, and release that amount to you while sending the rest toward the child support. Just remember to file Form 8379 WITH your original return if possible - it processes much faster than submitting it separately later. Most tax software can handle this electronically now.

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This is really helpful! I'm in a similar situation where my husband has old debts but I'm the only one working. One question - when they calculate "your portion" of the refund, do they look at just income or do they factor in things like who claimed which deductions? Like if I paid all the mortgage interest but we filed jointly, does that affect the calculation?

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Tax Forms Required When Paying Overseas Independent Contractors - What Do I Need?

Hey all, I need some guidance on tax requirements for international contractors. I've been growing my digital marketing business recently, and I'm in the process of building a remote team with people from different countries. Currently I have several contractors working through Fiverr, which handles all the tax paperwork as the middleman. But I'm planning to bring my core team off that platform and manage payments directly to save on fees and have more control. My contractors are mainly based in Thailand and Ukraine. They're all non-US citizens who live and work 100% outside the US. I'm a sole proprietor based in the US. Questions I'm struggling with: 1) Do I need these overseas contractors to fill out W9 forms? From what I've read, I don't think so since they're foreign nationals working entirely outside the US. 2) Should I have them complete W-8BEN forms instead? My understanding is this just documents they're foreign contractors, but I keep these forms in my records rather than submitting them with my taxes. Is that right? 3) For contractors in Thailand and Ukraine - since they're not US citizens and don't do any work in the US, I don't think I need to withhold any US taxes from their payments. Can someone confirm? Also, do they need to complete the tax treaty section (section II) of the W-8BEN? 4) Is there any earnings threshold where foreign contractors suddenly need to file US tax forms? Assuming they remain non-US citizens working 100% outside the US. 5) I keep detailed records - timesheets, payment invoices, transaction logs, bank statements. What other documentation should I maintain for IRS purposes? 6) Just curious - if I ever hired someone as an employee (not contractor) who was a foreign national working 100% in their home country, would that require W-2 and tax withholdings, or is it handled similarly to contractors? Appreciate any insights while I wait for my accountant to return from vacation!

This is such a valuable thread for anyone dealing with international contractors! I'm currently in a similar situation with contractors in the Philippines and Mexico, and this discussion has cleared up so many questions I had. One thing I'd add from my recent experience - when collecting W-8BEN forms, I've found it helpful to provide contractors with a brief explanation of what the form is for rather than just sending it cold. I explain that it's a standard US tax form that confirms they're foreign contractors and helps ensure I don't incorrectly withhold taxes from their payments. This context seems to make contractors more comfortable completing it properly. Also, regarding the record-keeping discussion - I've started taking screenshots of my contractors' freelancing profiles (when they have them) that show their location and local business registration details. It's additional documentation that supports their foreign status and independent contractor relationship. For anyone feeling overwhelmed by all these requirements, remember that being thorough upfront protects both you and your contractors. The last thing you want is tax complications affecting your working relationships or business operations. The automated services and IRS consultation options mentioned here are definitely worth considering if you're handling significant contractor payments or just want professional peace of mind about your compliance approach.

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That's a great point about providing context when sending W-8BEN forms to contractors! I've found that many international contractors aren't familiar with US tax forms, so explaining that it's just documentation to prove they're foreign workers (not a tax burden on them) really helps with compliance. Your idea about screenshotting freelancer profiles is brilliant - I never thought of that as supporting documentation. It creates a nice paper trail showing their established foreign business presence and location history. One thing I'd add is that I also keep records of the initial communications where contractors confirm their location and work setup. Those early emails where they mention working from their home office in [country] or discuss their local time zone can be valuable evidence that work was always intended to be performed abroad. This thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding the bigger picture. It's reassuring to see so many people successfully managing international contractor relationships with proper documentation. The key really seems to be having organized systems from the start rather than trying to retrofit compliance after the fact.

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Myles Regis

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This thread has been absolutely invaluable! As someone who's been hesitant to work with international contractors due to tax complexity concerns, reading through all these detailed experiences and practical advice has given me the confidence to move forward. The key takeaways I'm implementing: collect W-8BEN forms upfront with clear explanations, maintain detailed records showing work location, track form expiration dates, include tax responsibility clauses in contracts, and establish consistent payment schedules for cleaner documentation. One question I still have - for those who've been through IRS audits with international contractors, what was the most important piece of documentation that helped demonstrate compliance? I want to make sure I'm prioritizing the right record-keeping efforts. Also, I appreciate everyone sharing the automated services and IRS consultation options. Sometimes it's worth paying for professional guidance to ensure you're handling everything correctly from the start, especially when the stakes involve potential penalties or reclassification issues. This community knowledge-sharing is exactly why I love this forum - real-world experiences and practical solutions that you just can't find in generic tax guides!

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I'm glad this thread has been helpful! As someone who went through an IRS audit involving international contractors about two years ago, I can share what documentation was most critical in my experience. The auditor was primarily focused on three things: 1) Proof that contractors were truly foreign persons (the W-8BEN forms were essential here), 2) Evidence that work was actually performed outside the US (timestamped communications, project deliverables with foreign IP addresses, and invoices showing foreign addresses were key), and 3) Documentation supporting the independent contractor vs employee classification (contracts showing they controlled their work methods, used their own equipment, and had other clients). The W-8BEN forms were absolutely crucial - the auditor checked every single one and their expiration dates. Having them organized and current made a huge difference in how smoothly the process went. The second most important thing was having clear records showing the pattern of work being performed abroad - I had email timestamps, Slack messages during contractors' local business hours, and project delivery logs that clearly showed non-US work patterns. One thing that really helped was having a simple spreadsheet that cross-referenced each contractor with their W-8BEN, contract dates, payment amounts, and key supporting documents. It showed the auditor that I had organized systems and took compliance seriously. The audit ended with no changes to my returns, and the auditor actually complimented my documentation. The key is being able to tell a clear, consistent story about your business relationships backed up with proper paperwork.

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Yara Sabbagh

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This is exactly the kind of confusion that trips up so many military members during tax season! As someone who's helped friends navigate this same issue, I can confirm what others have said - the discrepancy is almost always normal. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned much: if you received any special pay during 2024 (like hazardous duty pay, flight pay, etc.), some of these can have different tax treatment depending on where you were stationed or deployed. Combat zone exclusions are a big one - that income literally disappears from your taxable wages but can sometimes confuse tax software. Also, double-check if you had any mid-year changes to your TSP contribution percentage or health insurance elections. Sometimes people forget they made changes during open season that affected their pre-tax deductions for part of the year. The fact that you're being careful and double-checking everything shows you're on the right track. Military taxes can be tricky, but it sounds like TurboTax is probably calculating everything correctly. If you're still worried, the advice about checking your December LES against your W-2 Box 1 is solid gold - that should match perfectly if DFAS issued your W-2 correctly.

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Mason Kaczka

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's helped others with this! I hadn't thought about mid-year changes to elections. I actually did increase my TSP contribution percentage halfway through 2024 after getting promoted, so that could definitely explain some of the complexity I'm seeing in the numbers. The combat zone exclusion point is interesting too - I wasn't deployed, but I know some of my colleagues were, and they've mentioned similar confusion with their tax software not handling military-specific situations well. I'm going to go dig up my December LES tonight and compare it to my W-2 like you suggested. That seems like the best way to verify that DFAS got everything right on their end. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience - it's really helpful to know this is a common issue and not necessarily a sign that something's wrong!

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Ravi Sharma

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a very similar situation as the original poster - also military with a discrepancy between my W-2 and 1040 amounts in TurboTax. After reading through all these responses, I'm feeling much more confident that this is likely normal. I contribute to TSP and have the standard military deductions (SGLI, dental, etc.), which would definitely explain why my W-2 taxable wages are lower than my total income showing up in the 1040. One thing I wanted to add for anyone else reading this: I called my base finance office and they confirmed that this type of discrepancy is extremely common for military members. They see questions about it all the time during tax season. The finance NCO I spoke with said the key is making sure your December LES matches your W-2 Box 1, which several people here have mentioned. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and solutions. It's so helpful to know that other service members have gone through the same confusion and stress, and that there are resources available to help figure it out. This community is awesome for supporting each other through these kinds of issues!

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Jacob Lewis

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation with my father's caregiver payments. The confusion about W-2 vs 1099 is really common - I think agencies sometimes don't explain the tax implications clearly when you start. One thing that helped me was requesting documentation from the state program about whether it qualifies as a Medicaid Home and Community-Based Services (HCBS) waiver program. If it does, and if your mother-in-law lives in your home, you might qualify for the difficulty of care exclusion under IRS Notice 2014-7. Even if you qualify for the exclusion, you still need to report the W-2 income on your tax return and then exclude it with proper documentation. The IRS will have already received a copy of that W-2 with your wife's SSN, so not reporting it could trigger questions later. I'd definitely recommend having taxes withheld going forward. Even if you end up qualifying for exclusions, it's better to get a refund than to owe money you weren't expecting.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to this community and just starting to navigate caregiver tax issues myself. Could you clarify what specific documentation you requested from the state program? I want to make sure I ask for the right paperwork to prove it's an HCBS waiver program. Also, when you say "exclude it with proper documentation" on the tax return, do you mean there's a specific form or just a written statement? Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to know others have figured this out successfully!

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Sophia Long

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Welcome to the community, Shelby! For documentation, I requested a letter from the state program administrator specifically stating that the payments are made under a "Medicaid Home and Community-Based Services waiver program" - those exact words are important because that's the language used in IRS Notice 2014-7. Some programs call themselves different things but are actually HCBS waivers underneath. For the tax return, there isn't a specific IRS form for the exclusion. You report the W-2 income normally, then subtract it out as an exclusion with a statement like "Difficulty of Care payments excluded per IRS Notice 2014-7" attached to your return. Keep copies of the program documentation and the IRS Notice with your tax records. The key is making sure the care recipient lives in your home AND that it's actually a qualifying Medicaid waiver program. Not all state caregiver programs qualify, so getting that written confirmation upfront is crucial. Good luck navigating this - it's confusing at first but gets easier once you understand the requirements!

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Ruby Blake

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As someone who's been helping family members navigate caregiver tax issues for several years, I want to emphasize that the "tax exempt" status your wife was told about is likely a misunderstanding. There's no blanket exemption for family caregivers receiving W-2 income. The fact that she received a W-2 (not a 1099) means the state program considers her an employee, and employee wages are always taxable income that must be reported. The IRS has already received a copy of this W-2 with her Social Security number, so not reporting it could definitely cause problems. However, there might be good news depending on your specific situation. If the payments come through a Medicaid Home and Community-Based Services waiver program AND your mother-in-law lives in your home, your wife may qualify for the "difficulty of care" exclusion under IRS Notice 2014-7. This would allow her to exclude the income from taxes while still reporting it on her return. I'd strongly recommend: 1) Contact the state program to get written documentation about whether it's a qualifying Medicaid waiver program, 2) File a tax return reporting the W-2 income (required regardless), and 3) Change her withholding status to have taxes taken out going forward to avoid any surprises next year. The caregiver tax rules are really complex and not well understood, even by some tax professionals, so don't feel bad about the confusion!

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QuantumQueen

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This is such a comprehensive overview, Ruby! As someone just starting to deal with these caregiver tax issues, I really appreciate how you've laid out the key steps. The distinction between reporting the income and potentially excluding it is something I didn't understand before reading all these comments. One question - you mentioned that not all tax professionals understand these rules well. Do you have any suggestions for finding a tax preparer who's experienced with caregiver income situations? I'm wondering if I should look for someone who specializes in eldercare issues or if there's a particular certification I should ask about. Also, I'm curious about the timeline for getting that documentation from the state program. How long did it typically take when you helped your family members request those letters confirming the Medicaid waiver status?

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