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Oliver Alexander

Does Our Condo Association Need EFTPS for 1120-H Tax Payments?

I'm the treasurer for our small condo association (32 units) and I'm trying to figure out the right way to pay our taxes when filing Form 1120-H. The IRS instructions for 1120-H clearly state: "Do not include the payment with the tax return." Then they also say: "Associations must use electronic funds transfers to make all federal tax deposits (such as deposits of employment, excise, and income tax)." I'm confused about whether we actually need to use EFTPS. My interpretation is that the EFTPS requirement applies to associations making quarterly tax deposits throughout the year. Since we only need to pay tax on our Reserve Fund interest once a year when we file, I'm thinking maybe we don't need to use EFTPS and can just send a check. So my questions are: 1) Can we just mail a check to the IRS instead of using EFTPS for our annual tax payment on Form 1120-H? If yes, do we send it to the same address as our form? Should we include our EIN on the check for proper credit? Should the form be included with the check? 2) Even if we're not required to use EFTPS, would it be better to use it anyway? Is that what most associations do? I tried calling the IRS directly, but after navigating through multiple phone menus on two different numbers, I was told that IRS agents don't answer these types of questions anymore. Any guidance would be appreciated!

Lara Woods

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I've been managing finances for several HOAs for about 15 years and can help clarify this. For small condo associations filing 1120-H, you're right to be confused by the seemingly contradictory instructions. The requirement to use EFTPS is specifically for "federal tax deposits" which typically refers to quarterly estimated payments or employment taxes. For many small associations that only owe a small amount on reserve fund interest when filing their annual return, you generally can send a check with your payment voucher (Form 8109-B). However, there's been a shift toward electronic payments across the board. While technically you could send a check with your payment voucher to the address listed in the 1120-H instructions, I strongly recommend using either EFTPS or the IRS Direct Pay system. It's much easier to track, provides immediate confirmation, and eliminates any risk of the payment being separated from identifying information. If you do send a check, make sure your EIN is clearly written on it along with "Form 1120-H" and the tax year. But honestly, setting up EFTPS takes about 10 minutes and will save you headaches in the long run.

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Adrian Hughes

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Thanks for the info. We're in a similar situation with our HOA. If we do decide to use EFTPS, do we need to register well in advance? I heard it takes a while to get setup with all the verification steps. Our filing deadline is coming up in about 3 weeks and I'm wondering if we have enough time. Also, can you clarify if we need to make separate payments for state and federal taxes through different systems?

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Lara Woods

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For EFTPS registration timing, you'll need to allow about 7-10 business days. The IRS will mail you a PIN to the address they have on file for your association, which is required to complete the enrollment. If your deadline is in 3 weeks, you should start the process immediately to be safe. For state vs. federal payments, they're completely separate systems. EFTPS is only for federal tax payments. Your state will have its own payment system, and the requirements vary by location. Most states now have their own online payment portals, but you'll need to check with your specific state tax agency for details.

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Ian Armstrong

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Eli Butler

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I'm skeptical about using AI for tax advice. Did you verify the information with a professional? I'd be worried about getting incorrect information that could cause problems with the IRS later.

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Ian Armstrong

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I tried https://taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here, and it was exactly what our small condo association needed. We've been filing 1120-H for years but always had confusion about the payment requirements. After uploading our previous returns and bylaws, we got clear guidance that since we only pay tax on our reserve interest once annually and don't have employees, we could either use EFTPS or send a check with Form 8109-B. The analysis explained that while electronic payment is preferred by the IRS, there's no strict requirement for associations in our situation. We ended up setting up EFTPS anyway because it seemed easier in the long run, but it was helpful to understand that we had options. This saved us from paying our accountant for a consultation just to answer this one question!

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Lydia Bailey

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Mateo Warren

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Mateo Warren

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I owe everyone an apology and update. After expressing skepticism about Claimyr, I decided to try it myself for our condo association's tax questions. I was genuinely shocked when I got a call back connecting me to an actual IRS agent after about 45 minutes. The agent was extremely helpful and clarified that for small associations filing 1120-H with no quarterly obligations, we can either use EFTPS or send a check with Form 8109-B. She recommended EFTPS for tracking purposes but confirmed either method is acceptable. I spent weeks trying to get this answer on my own, making dozens of calls and always hitting dead ends. Having a 15-minute conversation with a knowledgeable agent solved everything. Sometimes being proven wrong is actually the best outcome!

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Sofia Price

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Just wanted to add some practical advice as someone who's been treasurer for our 80-unit association for 7 years. Even though you might not be REQUIRED to use EFTPS for your annual 1120-H payment, I highly recommend doing it anyway. We used to send checks and had multiple instances where the payment wasn't properly credited to our account, leading to unnecessary notices and headaches. Since switching to EFTPS, we've had zero issues. The payment confirmation is immediate, and you can print a receipt for your records. Yes, the registration process takes a bit of time (about 2 weeks to get your PIN in the mail), but it's a one-time setup. Just make sure you keep your credentials somewhere secure and accessible to future board members!

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Alice Coleman

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Do you think it's worth setting up EFTPS if we typically owe less than $100 in taxes each year? Seems like overkill for such a small amount. We've been sending checks for years without issues.

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Sofia Price

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Even for small amounts, I believe EFTPS is worth it. The issue isn't really about the dollar amount but about ensuring proper credit and maintaining clear records. When you send a check, you're depending on several manual processes working correctly - the check being matched with your filing, properly recorded, etc. The peace of mind knowing your payment was received and credited properly is valuable regardless of the amount. Plus, once it's set up, it actually takes less time than writing and mailing a check. The system stores your association's information, so future payments only take a couple of minutes to complete.

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Owen Jenkins

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Has anyone dealt with penalties for not using EFTPS? Our association sent a check last year (about $230 for taxes on reserve interest), and we just got a notice saying we were required to use electronic payment. They're threatening a 10% penalty! Is this legitimate or should we contest it?

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Lara Woods

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That's concerning and somewhat unusual for a small association filing 1120-H. There is a "failure to deposit" penalty that can apply when required electronic payments aren't made properly, but it typically applies to payroll tax deposits and other regular payment requirements, not the annual tax payment for a small condo association. I would definitely contest this. Call the IRS (or use Claimyr as others have suggested) and explain that you're a small association that only owes tax annually on reserve interest. Request penalty abatement based on reasonable cause and note that the instructions are not entirely clear for your situation. Most first-time penalties can be abated if you have a reasonable explanation and a good compliance history.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now! Our 28-unit condo association has been mailing checks for our 1120-H payments for the past few years without any issues. We typically owe around $150-200 annually on our reserve fund interest. Reading through all these responses, I'm now thinking we should probably set up EFTPS for next year just to be safe. The conflicting experiences people are having with penalties is making me nervous - it seems like there might be some inconsistency in how the IRS is applying the electronic payment requirements to small associations. @Owen Jenkins - definitely contest that penalty! Based on what others have shared here, it doesn't sound like that penalty should apply to your situation. The fact that you've been successfully paying by check in previous years should work in your favor. One question for the group: has anyone had success using IRS Direct Pay instead of EFTPS? I've heard it might be simpler for one-time annual payments, but I'm not sure if it works for business tax payments or just individual returns.

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Great question about IRS Direct Pay! I actually looked into this for our association last year. Unfortunately, IRS Direct Pay is only available for individual tax payments (Forms 1040, estimated taxes, etc.) and doesn't work for business entities like condo associations filing Form 1120-H. For business tax payments, your options are really EFTPS, wire transfers, or checks with payment vouchers. EFTPS is definitely the most practical choice since wire transfers have fees and the check method seems to be creating issues for some associations. Given the inconsistency in penalty enforcement that people are experiencing, I'd strongly recommend setting up EFTPS sooner rather than later. It's really not that complicated once you get through the initial registration, and having the electronic confirmation eliminates any ambiguity about whether your payment was received and properly credited. The 7-10 day PIN mailing process is probably the biggest hurdle, but it's a one-time setup that will serve your association for years to come.

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As someone who's been through this exact confusion with our 24-unit association, I can share what we learned after extensive research and consultation with our CPA. The key distinction is between "federal tax deposits" (which require EFTPS) and annual tax payments. Small condo associations filing 1120-H typically fall into a gray area because we're not making regular quarterly deposits like larger entities. Here's what we discovered: If your association owes less than $1,000 in taxes annually and doesn't have employees (no payroll taxes), you technically have more flexibility. However, the IRS has been moving toward requiring electronic payments across the board, and their enforcement seems inconsistent for small associations. Our solution was to set up EFTPS despite not being strictly required. The registration took about 10 days to receive the PIN by mail, but now we have peace of mind knowing our payments are immediately confirmed and properly credited. For your immediate situation, if you're close to your filing deadline and haven't set up EFTPS yet, you can still send a check with Form 8109-B to the address specified in the 1120-H instructions. Just make sure your EIN and "Form 1120-H" are clearly written on the check. But definitely consider setting up EFTPS for next year - it's worth the one-time hassle to avoid any potential issues down the road.

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Yara Khoury

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This is really helpful information! I'm new to managing our condo association's finances and have been overwhelmed by all the conflicting guidance about payment methods. The distinction you made between "federal tax deposits" and "annual tax payments" really clarifies things. Our association is similar to yours - 30 units, no employees, and we typically owe around $180 annually on reserve interest. Based on your experience and what others have shared here, it sounds like setting up EFTPS is the smart move even if we're technically not required to use it. One quick question: when you set up EFTPS, did you need any special documentation beyond your EIN, or was it pretty straightforward? I want to make sure I have everything ready when I start the registration process. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's exactly the kind of real-world guidance I was looking for!

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