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Has anyone noticed that FreeTaxUSA sometimes has issues with the 8606 form? Last year I had to manually enter some stuff because it wasn't calculating my basis correctly after a conversion.

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I had that exact problem! I ended up printing out the 8606 instructions from the IRS website and calculating it myself, then just overriding what the software was doing. The key is making sure Line 2 has your total basis from previous years correctly entered.

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This is a really common mistake! At $95k income, you're definitely above the deduction threshold if you're covered by a workplace retirement plan. The correct approach is: 1. Don't take the Traditional IRA deduction - you're not eligible 2. File Form 8606 to report your $3,200 as a non-deductible contribution 3. Report the conversion to Roth on your return The reason your tax software is behaving this way is because you can't do both - either it's a deductible contribution (which you're not eligible for) OR it's a non-deductible contribution that requires Form 8606. Since you converted immediately, there shouldn't be any taxable gain on the conversion itself. You'll get a 1099-R next year showing the distribution, but since you're properly reporting the non-deductible basis on Form 8606 this year, the conversion won't be taxable. Think of it this way: you put in post-tax money ($3,200), so when you convert that same post-tax money to Roth, there's no additional tax owed. The 8606 is crucial because it tells the IRS "hey, I already paid taxes on this money.

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This explanation is super helpful! I'm new to all this IRA stuff and was getting really confused by all the different rules. So just to make sure I understand - when you do a backdoor Roth, you're basically saying "I'm putting in money I already paid taxes on, then moving it to a Roth account where it can grow tax-free"? And the Form 8606 is like a receipt that proves you already paid taxes on that money so the IRS doesn't try to tax you again when you convert it?

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Rhett Bowman

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Since you're filing jointly, I've found it easiest to just enter everything once and let the software handle it. No need to split anything manually between you and your spouse. The tricky part is tracking everything correctly for future years. Keep separate folders for receipts that are 100% rental (like repairs only in the tenant's area) vs. shared expenses that need to be prorated. It'll save you hours next tax season!

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Is there a good system for tracking this stuff throughout the year? I always end up scrambling at tax time trying to figure out which expenses were for what.

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I use a simple spreadsheet with columns for Date, Description, Amount, Category (100% Rental vs Shared), and Notes. Throughout the year, I just snap photos of receipts with my phone and enter them weekly. For shared expenses like utilities, I set up automatic reminders to record them monthly with the 40% allocation noted. At tax time, I just filter by category and everything's already organized. Takes maybe 15 minutes a week but saves hours of headache later!

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Jacob Lee

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Just wanted to add something that helped me when I was in a similar situation - make sure you're aware of the "home office" vs "rental property" distinction. Since you're renting out 40% of your home, that portion is treated as rental property (Schedule E), not a home office deduction (Form 8829). This means you can deduct things like advertising costs to find tenants, rental management fees, and even mileage for trips related to the rental property. Also, if you have any startup costs for getting the rental ready (like painting or minor repairs before the first tenant moved in), those might be deductible too. One more tip - if you're planning to do this long-term, consider opening a separate bank account just for rental income and expenses. It makes tracking so much easier and looks more professional if you ever face an audit.

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Drake

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This is really helpful, especially the distinction between home office vs rental property! I hadn't thought about being able to deduct advertising costs and mileage. Quick question - for the startup costs you mentioned, is there a limit on how much you can deduct in the first year? I spent about $2,800 getting the rental area ready (new flooring, paint, fixtures) before my first tenant moved in. Can I write all of that off this year or does it need to be spread out somehow? Also, the separate bank account tip is gold - I've been mixing everything together and it's been a nightmare trying to separate personal vs rental transactions. Definitely setting that up before next year!

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - in some states, forming an LLC (even as a DRE) means you'll have to pay additional taxes or fees that you wouldn't as a sole proprietor. In California, for example, there's a minimum $800 annual tax just for having an LLC, even if you make no profit! Definitely check your state's requirements before deciding. In some cases, the extra costs might outweigh the liability benefits, especially if you have a very small low-risk business.

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Yes! This is so important. I'm in Tennessee and we have the "Hall Income Tax" which can apply differently depending on your business structure. Always check state-specific rules!

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Wow, I had no idea about those state fees. I'm in Michigan - guess I need to look into what our state requires for LLCs. Thanks for the heads up!

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For your jewelry business in Michigan, you're in luck! Michigan has relatively low LLC fees - just a $50 filing fee to create the LLC and no annual franchise tax like California has. Michigan also doesn't have that $800 minimum tax burden. However, you will need to file an Annual Statement with the state (around $25) to keep your LLC in good standing. Overall, Michigan is pretty LLC-friendly compared to states like California or New York. Since you're already doing Schedule C filing, the DRE route could work well for you - you'd get the liability protection without changing your federal tax situation, and Michigan's fees are reasonable. Just make sure to weigh the state filing costs against the potential liability protection benefits for your specific business situation.

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That's really helpful to know about Michigan's fees! As someone new to all this business stuff, the $50 filing fee and $25 annual statement seem totally reasonable compared to what some other states charge. I think I'm leaning toward setting up the LLC as a DRE - the liability protection seems worth it for those low costs, especially since I won't have to change how I file my taxes. Do you happen to know if there are any other ongoing requirements in Michigan I should be aware of besides that annual statement?

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Nia Davis

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Important clarification on the 1099-K issue - receiving a 1099-K doesn't automatically mean you owe taxes on that amount. The 1099-K is just an information document that reports gross payment amounts, not net income. Since you're acting as a pass-through coordinator, you would report the 1099-K amount as "Other Income" on your tax return, then deduct the same amount as a business expense when you pay the resort. This nets to zero taxable income from the transaction. The key is documentation. Keep records of: - All incoming Venmo payments with names and amounts - The payment to the resort/vendor - Any receipts or invoices from the resort - A simple spreadsheet showing total collected vs. total paid out This creates a clear paper trail showing you had no net gain from the transaction. Even if you receive a 1099-K, your tax liability from this activity would be zero as long as you can document that all funds were passed through to pay legitimate group expenses.

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This is really helpful information about the 1099-K reporting! I'm new to this community and dealing with a similar situation - I'm collecting funds for a family wedding and was worried about the tax implications. Just to make sure I understand correctly - even if I receive a 1099-K for the $30,000 I'm collecting, as long as I can show that I paid out the same amount to vendors (photographer, caterer, etc.), there's no actual tax liability? The documentation you mentioned seems straightforward enough to maintain. One follow-up question: does it matter if the payments go out to multiple vendors rather than just one? I'll be paying several different wedding vendors with the collected funds rather than one large payment like the original poster's resort situation.

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Nia Watson

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@Jasmine Quinn Yes, that s'exactly right! It doesn t'matter if you re'paying one vendor or multiple vendors - the principle is the same. You re'still acting as a pass-through coordinator, and as long as your total payments to wedding vendors equal or (exceed the) amount you collected, you have zero net income from the activity. For multiple vendors, just make sure to keep all the receipts and invoices organized. I d'suggest creating a simple spreadsheet with columns for: Date Collected, Person Name, Amount Collected, Date Paid Out, Vendor Name, Amount Paid Out. This way you can easily show that funds came in from family members and went out to legitimate wedding expenses. The IRS understands that people coordinate group expenses like weddings, reunions, etc. The key is demonstrating that you weren t'profiting from the arrangement - just facilitating payments. Multiple vendors actually strengthens your case since it shows legitimate wedding-related expenses rather than one large unexplained payment. Welcome to the community, by the way! Wedding coordination can definitely create these kinds of tax questions, but with proper documentation you should be fine.

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Emily Parker

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I went through something very similar when organizing our company's annual retreat last year. We collected about $45,000 through various payment apps including Venmo, and I was terrified about potential IRS issues. Here's what I learned after consulting with a tax professional: The key is treating this as what it actually is - a temporary custodial arrangement, not income. You're essentially acting like a escrow account, holding money temporarily before passing it through to the final recipient. A few practical tips that helped me: 1. Create a simple tracking spreadsheet from day one showing who paid what and when 2. Save screenshots of all Venmo transactions 3. Keep the resort invoice/contract showing the total amount due 4. If possible, try to make the payment to the resort close in time to when you finish collecting funds The multiple transfers due to Venmo's limits actually work in your favor documentation-wise - it creates a clear paper trail. Banks are used to seeing payment app transfers these days, so as long as the amounts align with your normal account activity patterns, you shouldn't have issues. One thing that gave me extra peace of mind was sending a brief email to all participants after the event summarizing the total collected and total paid to vendors. It's not required, but it shows transparency and creates another piece of documentation if ever needed. You're doing the right thing by researching this ahead of time. The fact that you're being thoughtful about proper handling shows this is legitimate coordination, not any attempt to hide income.

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Paolo Marino

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This is such helpful advice! I'm new to this community and dealing with my first time coordinating a large group event - collecting money for a neighborhood block party. Your point about treating it like an escrow account really helps me understand the situation better. I especially appreciate the tip about sending a summary email to participants afterward. That seems like a great way to maintain transparency and create that extra documentation layer. Did you find that participants appreciated getting that summary, or did some people think it was unnecessary? Also, when you mentioned "normal account activity patterns" - how concerned should I be if this is way larger than my typical transactions? My usual Venmo activity is maybe $200-300 per month, but I'll be handling about $15,000 for this event. Should I give my bank a heads up beforehand?

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Great question about the 1095-A as a dependent! I ran into this exact issue. Even though you're claimed as a dependent, you still need to report the 1095-A information on your return using Form 8962. The key thing is that you'll likely need to "repay" any advance premium tax credits that were paid to your insurance company during the year, since as a dependent you're not eligible to receive those credits. Make sure you have the correct SLCSP (Second Lowest Cost Silver Plan) amount from your 1095-A - that's often where the software errors come from. If your software keeps giving you errors, double-check that you're entering the monthly amounts exactly as they appear on the form, including any zeros for months you weren't covered. The good news is that this situation is pretty common and the IRS system handles it routinely. Just make sure you file the form even if it results in owing money - not filing it when you received advance credits can cause bigger problems later.

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Yara Sayegh

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This is super helpful! I'm dealing with the same 1095-A dependent situation and my software kept throwing errors about the SLCSP amounts. I didn't realize I needed to enter zeros for months I wasn't covered - I was just leaving those fields blank. Going to try entering the zeros and see if that fixes the error. Thanks for explaining the repayment part too, I was confused why I suddenly owed money when I thought the credits were supposed to help me!

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The 1095-A dependent situation can be really tricky! I went through this last year and learned the hard way that timing matters a lot with these forms. Since you mentioned filing so close to the deadline, just wanted to add that if your return does get rejected due to 1095-A issues (which happened to my friend), make sure you act quickly during that 5-day grace period someone mentioned earlier. One thing that really helped me was calling the marketplace directly (not the IRS) to verify the SLCSP amounts on my 1095-A were correct. Sometimes there are errors on the form itself, and the marketplace can issue a corrected version if needed. This is especially important if you switched plans mid-year or had coverage gaps. Also, since you're being claimed as a dependent, make absolutely sure your parents aren't also trying to claim any premium tax credits related to your coverage on their return. That can create a nightmare scenario where both returns get flagged. Coordination is key! The payment timing advice everyone gave is spot on though - always pay by the deadline regardless of acceptance status. I learned that lesson the expensive way a few years back.

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This is exactly the kind of coordination issue I was worried about! My parents mentioned they might have some credits related to my coverage, but we haven't compared notes yet. How do you figure out who should claim what? Is there a specific way to divide it up, or does one person have to claim everything? I'm stressed about accidentally creating a conflict between our returns, especially since I already filed and theirs might not be done yet.

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