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Anyone using TurboTax for backdoor Roth reporting? It keeps calculating tax on my conversion even though I already paid tax on that money when I earned it!
Make sure you're entering the non-deductible contribution correctly. In TurboTax, you need to: 1) Enter your 1099-R showing the conversion 2) Then in the IRA contribution section, specify that you made a NON-DEDUCTIBLE contribution to a traditional IRA 3) This should trigger Form 8606 to be included, which will show your basis Most people miss step 2 and that's why TurboTax calculates tax on the conversion.
I went through this exact same confusion last year! The key thing to remember is that you need to report BOTH the contribution AND the conversion properly. Here's what I learned: 1. Yes, you absolutely need Form 8606 - this is critical because it establishes your "basis" (the $6,500 you already paid tax on) 2. The 1099-R will initially look scary because it shows the full amount, but Form 8606 will offset this 3. In your tax software, make sure to indicate that your traditional IRA contribution was NON-DEDUCTIBLE. This is the step most people miss. 4. Any small earnings between contribution and conversion (like if your $6,500 grew to $6,510) will be taxable, but the original $6,500 won't be. The good news is that once you get through this first year, you'll understand the process much better. Just take your time with the forms and don't rush through the software prompts about IRA contributions - those details matter a lot for getting the tax treatment right!
Has anyone tried using the IRS Withholding Calculator instead of paying for one of these services? I'm wondering if it's worth the effort or if it gives similar results.
I tried both the IRS calculator and a paid service. The IRS one is free and reasonably accurate but takes longer to use and doesn't explain things as clearly. It asks a TON of questions and can be confusing to navigate.
I went through this exact same situation last year! The key issue is that when you're both working and select "married filing jointly" on your W-4s, each employer calculates withholding as if that job is your only household income. This creates a significant under-withholding problem. Here's what worked for us: We used the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator and discovered we needed to add about $200 extra withholding per month total. We split this between our two paychecks - I added $75 extra on line 4(c) of my W-4, and my spouse added $125 on theirs. The math makes sense when you think about it - at your combined income of ~$132K, you're hitting higher tax brackets that neither employer accounts for individually. Don't feel bad about not knowing this - the current W-4 system is really confusing for dual-income households. Once we made the adjustment, our withholding was spot on for this tax year. I'd definitely recommend running your numbers through the IRS calculator first since it's free and gives you the exact amounts to put on your W-4 forms. Good luck!
I experienced this specific scenario during the current filing season. My return was initially flagged with a TC 570 (Additional Account Action Pending) on my transcript, which correlates with the 'verification needed' status on WMR. After 16 days, it was automatically released with a TC 571 (Resolved Additional Account Action) without any correspondence being sent. The status then changed to 'processing' and my refund was issued 6 days later with a TC 846 (Refund Issued). This is a normal sequence for returns that trigger automated verification protocols but are subsequently cleared without taxpayer intervention.
This is actually really encouraging to hear! I filed in early February and have been stuck on verification for about 3 weeks now. Reading through everyone's experiences here gives me hope that maybe I'll see movement soon too. It sounds like the automated system is pretty good at clearing legitimate returns without needing us to jump through hoops. I've been checking WMR obsessively every day, but after reading the comments about transcripts being more detailed, I think I'll create an account and start monitoring that instead. Thanks for starting this thread - it's exactly what I needed to see today to stop panicking about my refund!
14 Have you considered muni bonds? The interest is generally tax-free at the federal level, and if you buy bonds issued in your state, they're often exempt from state taxes too. Nice option for taxable accounts, especially in higher tax brackets.
Great question! Since you're debt-free with a paid-off house, you have some unique opportunities. A few additional strategies to consider: 1. **Backdoor Roth IRA conversions** - If your income ever pushes you out of direct Roth IRA eligibility, this keeps that option open. 2. **Tax-loss harvesting** in taxable accounts - Systematically realize losses to offset gains and reduce your tax burden. 3. **Asset location optimization** - Keep tax-inefficient investments in tax-advantaged accounts and tax-efficient ones in taxable accounts. 4. **Consider a small business or side hustle** - Opens up business deductions and potentially a Solo 401(k) for additional retirement savings. 5. **Health Sharing Plans** - If available in your area and you're comfortable with them, these aren't insurance but can reduce healthcare costs while maintaining HSA eligibility. 6. **Energy-efficient home improvements** - Federal tax credits are available for things like heat pumps, solar panels, and energy-efficient windows. Since you don't have dependents, maximizing tax-advantaged space and being strategic about investment placement becomes even more important. You're already doing great with the debt-free lifestyle!
Emma Thompson
Has anyone looked into whether it's possible to request a waiver from the IRS for this situation? I'm a student from Brazil with a tiny equity stake in a startup I interned for, and filing these complex forms is not just expensive but extremely confusing. There must be some kind of reasonable exception for foreign persons with minimal ownership and zero distributions?
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Malik Davis
ā¢Unfortunately, there's no waiver process specifically for this. The filing requirements are statutory. Your best option might be to see if your ownership percentage is low enough to avoid certain reporting requirements or if the Brazil-US tax treaty provides any relief. Some partnerships can also handle tax withholding at the partnership level rather than requiring partners to file, but that's up to the company.
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Rudy Cenizo
I went through this exact situation last year as a German resident with a small stake in a US LLC. After initially panicking about the filing requirements, I found a middle-ground approach that worked well for me. First, I contacted the partnership directly and asked if they could elect to withhold taxes at the entity level under Section 1446. This would have eliminated my individual filing requirement, but unfortunately they declined due to the administrative burden on their end. Since I had to file anyway, I used a combination of the resources mentioned here - I used Claimyr to actually speak with an IRS agent who confirmed exactly what I needed to file, then used an online tax service to prepare the forms. Total cost was around ā¬300, which while annoying for zero income, gave me peace of mind. The key insight from my IRS call was that as a German resident, I could potentially benefit from loss allocations in future years if the company becomes profitable, so maintaining compliance now could actually save me money later. Also learned that my 3% ownership meant I didn't need the more complex reporting forms that kick in at higher percentages. My advice: don't just give up your equity stake without understanding the full picture. A one-time consultation to understand your specific situation and obligations is worth the cost to make an informed decision.
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