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Isabel Vega

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22 Has anyone used TurboTax to handle reporting this kind of situation? I'm in a similar situation with medical crowdfunding and wondering if the basic version handles this or if I need to upgrade.

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Isabel Vega

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10 Since gifts aren't reported on your tax return at all, any version of TurboTax would work fine - even the free version. The only part that might require a paid version is if you're itemizing deductions to claim the medical expenses you paid out of pocket (not covered by insurance or GoFundMe).

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Mei Wong

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I went through something very similar after my car accident last year. My family set up a GoFundMe that raised about $28,000 for my medical expenses, and I was terrified about the tax implications. After consulting with a tax professional, I learned that medical crowdfunding donations are indeed treated as gifts and aren't taxable income to you as the recipient. The key is that people donated without expecting anything in return - they were helping with your medical crisis out of generosity. A few important points from my experience: - Keep detailed records of the GoFundMe campaign, including the total raised and donor information - Save all your medical bills and receipts showing how the money was used - If you itemize deductions, you can only deduct medical expenses you paid out of your own pocket (not the portion covered by GoFundMe) - The donors are responsible for any gift tax reporting if they gave over the annual exclusion limit I kept a simple spreadsheet tracking donations received vs. medical expenses paid, which gave me peace of mind. You're not required to report the gifts as income, but having good documentation is always smart. Hope this helps ease your worry!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! This is exactly what I needed to hear from someone who actually went through this. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I'm definitely going to create one tracking the donations vs my medical expenses. Did your tax professional give you any specific advice about what documentation would be most important to keep? I have all the GoFundMe records and medical bills, but I'm wondering if there's anything else I should be organizing now rather than scrambling later if questions ever come up. Also, when you say you consulted a tax professional, was that worth the cost? I'm trying to decide if I should pay for a consultation or if the information here is sufficient for my situation.

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I was in this exact situation on April 10th last year. Called my state's DHS office on March 15th to confirm and they told me that cash assistance isn't taxable and no form would be issued. But I was curious about whether I needed to disclose it anywhere on my return, so I asked specifically about Schedule 1 reporting. They confirmed it doesn't need to be listed anywhere. Just wanted to share my experience since I remember how confusing this was for me!

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Just to add another perspective - I work in tax preparation and see this confusion come up frequently, especially with newlyweds filing jointly for the first time. The key distinction is that TANF and similar state cash assistance programs are considered "general welfare payments" under tax law, which makes them non-taxable. However, keep an eye out for any supplemental nutrition assistance or energy assistance programs you may have participated in - while these are also typically non-taxable, some states do send informational statements that can be confusing. The important thing is that if you didn't receive a 1099-G specifically, you're likely in the clear. Since you're filing jointly now, just make sure both you and your spouse account for any other income sources from the portion of 2023 before your October marriage.

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Zara Ahmed

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kinda surprised no one mentioned this yet but another thing to consider is health insurance. if ur on ur parents insurance plan, some providers require that u be claimed as a dependent. not all do this but worth checking before u make any decisions.

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Actually, the Affordable Care Act allows young adults to remain on their parents' health insurance until age 26 regardless of tax dependency status, student status, or whether they live with their parents. That's federal law, so it applies in all states.

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Zara Ahmed

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oh thats good to know! i was told differently when i called my insurance last year but maybe the person was wrong or i misunderstood. thanks for correcting me! Appreciate that info since i was giving outdated advice. glad to know young adults can stay on parents insurance no matter what til 26.

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Grant Vikers

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I went through this exact situation with my parents two years ago! After a lot of research and talking to a tax professional, here's what I learned: Your mom is incorrect about it being fraud. The IRS explicitly states that claiming dependents is optional - you "may claim" qualifying dependents, not "must claim" them. This is clearly outlined in IRS Publication 501. However, the reality is more nuanced than just the tax aspect. Even if your parents don't claim you, you're still considered a dependent student for FAFSA purposes until you're 24 (unless you meet specific exceptions like being married, having dependents, military service, etc.). So federal financial aid likely won't change. BUT - and this is important - there can be tax benefits to consider. If your parents' income is too high to claim education credits, you might be able to claim the American Opportunity Tax Credit yourself if they don't claim you as a dependent. This could be worth up to $2,500. My advice: Run the numbers both ways. Calculate what your family saves/loses in total taxes under both scenarios, then factor in any potential institutional aid differences at your specific school. Sometimes the tax implications alone make it worthwhile, even without FAFSA changes. Also, definitely talk to your school's financial aid office about whether they consider tax dependency status for their own institutional aid - some do, some don't.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed breakdown I was hoping for! Thank you so much for sharing your experience. The point about the American Opportunity Tax Credit is something I hadn't fully considered - my parents make too much to qualify for it, but I might be able to claim it myself if they don't claim me. Do you remember roughly how much your family ended up saving by going the route of not claiming you? And did you have to convince your parents initially, or were they open to running the numbers once you explained it properly? I'm definitely going to look up IRS Publication 501 to show my mom the official language about claiming dependents being optional. Having that official source might help get her to at least consider running the scenarios.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Just wanted to add some clarity on the $300 threshold that's been mentioned - this is specifically for the "de minimis" rule under IRC Section 904(j). You can elect to claim foreign taxes as a deduction instead of a credit if you're under this threshold, OR you can still choose to claim them as a credit on Schedule 3 without filing Form 1116. One thing to watch out for though - if you have foreign taxes from sources like foreign mutual funds or PFICs (Passive Foreign Investment Companies), those have different rules and may require Form 1116 regardless of the amount. Most regular brokerage dividends from foreign stocks won't fall into this category, but it's worth double-checking your investment statements. Also, if you're planning to carry forward any excess foreign tax credits to future years, you'll need to file Form 1116 even if you're under the threshold, since the simplified method doesn't allow for carryforwards.

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This is really helpful information about the de minimis rule! I'm new to dealing with foreign taxes and had no idea about the PFIC complications. Quick question - how can I tell from my brokerage statement if any of my investments might be PFICs? Is there usually some kind of designation or code that indicates this, or do I need to research each foreign investment individually? I'm trying to avoid any nasty surprises when I file, especially since I have some international ETFs in addition to individual foreign stocks.

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@Aurora Lacasse Great question about identifying PFICs! Unfortunately, brokerage statements don t'always clearly mark PFIC status, which is one of the most frustrating aspects of this rule. For ETFs, most US-domiciled ETFs even (those tracking foreign markets are) generally NOT PFICs. However, foreign-domiciled ETFs usually ARE PFICs. You can often tell by looking at the fund s'domicile - if it s'incorporated in Ireland, Luxembourg, Canada, etc., it s'likely a PFIC. For individual foreign stocks, regular operating companies traded on major exchanges typically aren t'PFICs, but foreign mutual funds and some foreign REITs often are. Your broker might provide a year-end tax summary that identifies PFIC investments, but don t'rely on this alone. When in doubt, you can check the fund s'prospectus or contact the fund company directly. The consequences of missing PFIC reporting can be severe including (losing the ability to use foreign tax credits ,)so it s'worth being extra careful with the research.

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Sarah Jones

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I've been dealing with Form 1116 for a few years now and wanted to share some additional tips that might help others avoid common mistakes I made early on. One thing that tripped me up initially was the timing aspect - you need to use the foreign taxes that were actually withheld during the tax year, not when you received the dividend. This usually aligns, but sometimes there can be delays in reporting that create confusion. Also, if you're using the simplified Schedule 3 method (under the $300/$600 threshold), make sure you're not double-counting. Some people accidentally claim the same foreign taxes both as a deduction (if they itemize) and as a credit, which will definitely get flagged. For those with more complex situations, I'd recommend keeping a simple spreadsheet throughout the year tracking: date, country, type of income, amount of foreign tax, and exchange rate if applicable. It makes tax time so much easier than trying to reconstruct everything from scattered brokerage statements. The exchange rate piece is important too - you need to convert foreign taxes to USD using the appropriate exchange rate for the date the tax was paid, not the year-end rate.

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I was in a very similar situation last year when I became trustee for my parents' irrevocable trust. The SS-4 form definitely seems more complicated than it needs to be at first glance! One thing that really helped me was understanding that the IRS treats irrevocable trusts as completely separate tax entities from the day they become irrevocable. So when you're filling out the form, you're essentially "starting a business" from their perspective - that's why Line 10 asks for the reason and "Started new business" is usually the right choice for irrevocable trusts. A few practical tips that saved me headaches: **Line 7b (Responsible Party):** This is definitely you as trustee, not the grantors. Include your full name and SSN. The IRS needs to know who has legal control over the trust assets. **Mailing address:** You can absolutely use your personal address as the trustee. Most trustees do this unless the trust specifically maintains a separate business address. **Trust creation date:** Use the date the trust document was executed and became legally binding, not when assets were first transferred into it. I'd also recommend calling your bank ahead of time to ask what documentation they'll need beyond the EIN. Most want to see portions of the trust document, your identification as trustee, and sometimes a "Certificate of Trust" summary. Getting that list upfront can save multiple trips. The online application through the IRS website is much faster if you can navigate it - just make sure to select "Trust" right at the beginning. You'll get the EIN immediately instead of waiting weeks for mail processing. You're doing great by being thorough about this. Trust administration has a learning curve, but once you get the EIN sorted, the rest of the banking and tax processes become much more straightforward!

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive guidance I wish I had when I started this process! Your point about the IRS treating irrevocable trusts as separate tax entities really clarifies why the form asks for certain information in specific ways. I'm curious about one aspect you mentioned - when you say "most trustees" use their personal address for the trust's mailing address, did you run into any issues with financial institutions or other parties expecting the trust to have its own business address? I'm wondering if using my home address might create complications down the road when dealing with banks, investment companies, or tax preparers who might expect more formal business infrastructure. Also, regarding the Certificate of Trust you mentioned - did your attorney provide that automatically, or is that something you had to specifically request? I want to make sure I have all the supporting documents lined up before I start the banking process. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who's actually navigated this process successfully!

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I went through this exact same process about 6 months ago when my grandmother appointed me as trustee of her irrevocable trust, so I completely understand the confusion! The SS-4 form instructions aren't very clear about the trustee's role. Here are the key points that helped me get it right: **Your role as "Responsible Party":** On Line 7b, you'll enter YOUR name and SSN as the responsible party, not your aunt and uncle's information. The IRS needs to know who has legal control over the trust assets, which is you as the trustee. **Trust vs. Personal Information:** Lines 1-6 are about the trust itself (trust name, mailing address, etc.), while Line 7b is about you personally. You can use your home address as the trust's mailing address - that's completely normal for individual trustees. **Line 10 (Reason for applying):** Select "Started new business" since an irrevocable trust is treated as a separate tax entity from the day it becomes irrevocable. **Important timing note:** Make sure the trust is actually irrevocable before applying. Some trusts have waiting periods or other conditions that need to be met first. The online application at irs.gov is much faster than mailing the paper form - you get the EIN immediately. Just make sure to select "Trust" at the very beginning of the interview process. One heads up: start gathering documentation for bank account opening now. Most banks will want to see portions of the trust document, your ID, the EIN confirmation, and sometimes a "Certificate of Trust" summary. Calling ahead to ask for their specific requirements can save you multiple trips. You're being smart to get this right the first time. Trust administration has a learning curve, but the EIN is one of the foundational steps that makes everything else much easier!

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Mila Walker

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This is such helpful guidance! I'm just starting this process myself and feeling pretty overwhelmed. One question about the timing - you mentioned making sure the trust is actually irrevocable before applying. How do you verify this? Our trust document is pretty complex and I want to make sure I'm not jumping the gun. Did you have your attorney confirm the irrevocable status before you applied, or is there a specific section in the trust document I should be looking for? Also, when you mention gathering documentation for the bank, did you end up needing the full trust document or just certain pages? I'm trying to balance being prepared with not sharing more sensitive information than necessary. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really reassuring to hear from someone who's successfully navigated this process!

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