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I'm currently experiencing this exact situation and wanted to add my timeline to help others! My TC 571 code just appeared on my transcript on March 19th, so I'm at the very beginning of what everyone has documented as the 8-14 day waiting period. Like so many others here, I initially called the IRS and got the frustrating "wait for system updates with no timeline" response. Finding this thread has been such a relief - seeing all these consistent real-world timelines is infinitely more valuable than the vague official guidance. What's particularly encouraging is how reliable the TC 571 → TC 846 progression seems to be based on everyone's shared experiences. The pattern is remarkably consistent across different cycle codes and time periods, which gives me confidence that this really is just a waiting game at this point. My cycle code is 20241419, so I'm still figuring out my optimal checking schedule. Based on what others have shared about being strategic rather than obsessively refreshing, I'm going to try to focus on specific days rather than constant monitoring. I'll definitely report back with my timeline once the 846 code appears to add another data point to this incredibly valuable community resource. Thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences - you've transformed what felt like a stressful unknown into a manageable process with clear expectations. This thread should be required reading for anyone dealing with TC 571 codes!

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Liam Mendez

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@Carlos Mendoza Welcome to this amazing support community! I just found this thread today while desperately searching for information about TC 571 codes, and I m'so grateful for all the detailed experiences everyone has shared. My 571 code appeared on March 20th, so I m'literally just one day behind you in this process! Reading through all these consistent timelines has been such a huge relief. Before finding this discussion, I was convinced something was wrong with my return - the IRS website explanations are so confusing and unhelpful! But seeing how everyone s'experiences follow that reliable 8-14 day pattern from TC 571 to TC 846 has really calmed my nerves. Your cycle code 20241419 is interesting - I m'still learning about how these work, but it sounds like the key is just being patient and checking strategically rather than refreshing constantly which (I was definitely guilty of doing before reading everyone s'advice here .)This community has basically created the timeline resource that the IRS should provide but doesn t.'The real-world data from people who ve'actually been through this process is so much more valuable than calling customer service and getting vague wait "for updates responses." I ll'definitely share my timeline when things progress to add another data point to help future people in our situation. Thank you for contributing to this incredibly helpful discussion!

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Freya Ross

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I'm currently dealing with TC 571 that appeared on my transcript March 21st, and this thread has been absolutely incredible for understanding what to expect! Like everyone else, I got the standard "wait for system updates" response when I called the IRS, which was so frustrating until I found this community discussion. What strikes me most is how consistent the 8-14 day timeline has been across all the different experiences shared here. Reading through everyone's real-world data has completely changed my perspective - instead of panicking about the unknown, I now feel like I have realistic expectations based on actual patterns from people who've been through this exact process. My cycle code is 20241521, so I'm still figuring out my processing schedule, but the strategic checking approach that several people mentioned makes so much more sense than the obsessive daily refreshing I was doing initially. The anxiety of not knowing is definitely worse than just knowing you need to wait approximately 10 days! This community has essentially created the timeline guidance that should be standard IRS information but isn't. The fact that we're all crowdsourcing this data to help each other navigate what should be straightforward communication is both frustrating and amazing. I'll absolutely update with my timeline once the 846 code appears - contributing to this valuable resource feels like the least I can do after how helpful everyone's shared experiences have been. Thank you to everyone who has documented their journey through this process!

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'Self-Employed' income or 'Hobby income'? How to report app revenue for tax purposes

Title: 'Self-Employed' income or 'Hobby income'? How to report app revenue for tax purposes 1 Hi everyone, I'm a full-time software engineer and I need some advice on whether to report some side income as hobby or self-employment on my taxes. About 5-6 years ago, I created an app and published it on the Apple App Store for free. I've been paying the $125 annual developer fee just to keep it available. Last year I decided to make it a paid app to see if I could generate some revenue or at least offset the developer fee. In 2023, the app brought in approximately $240 in sales, but after Apple took their commission, I ended up with around $170. Now I'm trying to figure out how to properly report this on my 2023 tax return. I personally think of this as a hobby that occasionally generates a little cash. I don't depend on this money at all. I've spoken with a few tax CPAs informally, and they're split on which approach makes more sense. Those suggesting "self-employment" income say: - When I made it a paid app, my intent was to generate profit - If I report it as a hobby for multiple years, the IRS might eventually determine it's actually self-employment - With hobby income, I can't deduct expenses like the developer fee or Apple's commission Those suggesting "hobby income" say: - This isn't really a business, and maintaining Schedule C for self-employment can be complicated - If I declare it as self-employment and claim deductions, the taxable profit is minimal, which might look suspicious to the IRS over time When I switched from free to paid, I was curious about potential earnings but wasn't planning to invest significant time to make it profitable. If it ended up losing money overall, I'd be fine with that. I might adjust the pricing, but that's about it. Any guidance would be really appreciated!

4 I think an important factor nobody's mentioned is FUTURE plans for the app. If you intend to keep developing it, adding features, or creating more apps, the IRS would likely see this as an ongoing business activity rather than a hobby. One advantage of filing as self-employed now is that it establishes a pattern if your app income increases in the future. It's easier to start as self-employed and stay consistent than to switch from hobby to self-employed when profits increase.

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15 This is a really good point. I started reporting my photography side gig as a hobby and when it grew into a real business, my accountant said switching the classification looked suspicious.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation with my freelance graphic design work that I do occasionally on weekends. Based on everything I've read here and my own research, it really seems like the profit motive test is key. The fact that you deliberately switched your app from free to paid shows clear intent to generate profit, even if the amount is small. That's probably the strongest indicator that this should be treated as self-employment rather than a hobby. I'd also consider what you plan to do going forward. Are you going to keep the app paid? Might you develop other apps? Even small actions like adjusting pricing or promoting the app could further demonstrate business intent. The expense deduction issue is huge too. Losing the ability to deduct that $125 developer fee means you're essentially paying taxes on income you didn't actually receive after expenses. That seems fundamentally unfair and not what the tax code is designed to do. I think I'm leaning toward Schedule C for my own situation after reading all these responses. Better to establish the pattern now while everything is well-documented and straightforward.

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Layla Mendes

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet about HSAs: if you're trying to decide whether to reimburse yourself now or let the money grow, consider your current tax bracket vs future bracket. If you expect to be in a higher tax bracket in retirement (which might happen with required minimum distributions from traditional accounts), it might make more sense to reimburse yourself now and use that money for expenses, rather than pulling more from taxable accounts. Conversely, if you're in your peak earning years now, letting that HSA money grow and reimbursing yourself in retirement could be smartest. Either way, KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS. Can't stress this enough. Digital copies with cloud backup.

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But isn't HSA money always tax-free for qualified expenses regardless of your tax bracket? Why would your current vs future tax bracket matter if the withdrawal is for medical expenses?

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Layla Mendes

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You're right that HSA withdrawals for qualified medical expenses are always tax-free regardless of bracket. The tax bracket consideration comes into play with your overall financial picture. If you reimburse yourself now, you're effectively freeing up other money (that would have gone to medical expenses) to be used elsewhere. If you don't reimburse now, you're essentially paying medical expenses with post-tax dollars from your regular income, while letting your HSA grow. It's about opportunity cost and how it fits into your broader financial strategy.

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Aria Park

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Don't overthink the reimburse-then-contribute strategy. Simplest way to look at it: 1. You have a yearly HSA contribution limit ($3,850 individual/$7,750 family for 2023) 2. If you're not already maxing out your contributions, just contribute more without the reimbursement step 3. If you ARE maxing out, then there's no additional tax advantage to the reimburse-then-contribute cycle The real magic of HSAs is the option to pay expenses out-of-pocket now and reimburse yourself years later. I've been doing this for 6 years and have about $14k in "banked" medical expenses I can withdraw tax-free whenever I want, while my actual HSA has grown to over $45k.

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Noah Ali

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Do you use any particular system for tracking all those expenses? I've been trying to do this but I'm worried about losing track of what I've already reimbursed vs what's still available to claim.

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NeonNova

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This has been such a helpful discussion to read through! I'm in a very similar situation with my daughter who dropped from 12 to 10 credits mid-semester, and all the advice here has really put my mind at ease. One thing I wanted to mention that might help others - I found it useful to keep a simple spreadsheet tracking all the support I provide throughout the year (tuition payments, room & board, textbooks, health insurance, etc.). It makes it much easier to demonstrate that I'm providing more than half her support if anyone ever questions the dependent claim. Also, after reading about the importance of documentation, I'm definitely going to request that enrollment verification letter from the registrar's office showing her full-time status at the beginning of the semester. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it! Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and especially to the tax professional who clarified the 5-month student requirement. This community is so valuable for navigating these confusing tax situations!

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Liam Murphy

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That spreadsheet idea is brilliant! I wish I had thought of that earlier in the year. I'm definitely going to start tracking all my son's expenses that way going forward. It would make tax time so much less stressful to have everything organized like that. I'm also planning to request that enrollment verification letter after reading all these suggestions. It seems like such a simple thing to do but could save a lot of headaches later if there are ever any questions about the dependent claim. This whole thread has been incredibly informative. It's amazing how many different aspects there are to consider with student dependent claims - from the initial enrollment status to refund implications to the 5-month student requirement. I feel like I learned more here than from hours of trying to decipher IRS publications on my own!

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Jacob Lee

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I'm a newcomer to this community but have been lurking and reading through all these responses - what an incredibly helpful discussion! I'm actually dealing with almost the exact same situation with my son who started fall semester with 13 credits but had to drop a class due to a scheduling conflict, bringing him down to 10 credits. Reading through everyone's experiences and especially the tax professional's explanation about the 5-month student requirement has been so reassuring. I was really worried I'd mess up his dependent status, but it sounds like as long as he was enrolled as a full-time student at the beginning of the semester and meets that 5-month enrollment test (which he definitely does), I should be fine to claim him. I'm definitely going to follow the advice about getting an enrollment verification letter from the registrar showing his initial full-time status. And that spreadsheet idea for tracking support expenses throughout the year is genius - I'm starting that immediately for next year! Thank you all for sharing your experiences so openly. This community seems like such a valuable resource for navigating these confusing tax situations. It's so much better getting real-world advice from people who've actually been through this than trying to interpret IRS publications on your own!

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you do cost segregation, make sure your CPA understands how to properly implement it on your tax returns. I had a cost seg study done last year and my regular accountant ended up making mistakes because he wasn't familiar with how to apply the findings correctly. Had to switch to a CPA who specializes in real estate investing.

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Cass Green

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. Do you have any suggestions for how to verify if a CPA has enough experience with cost segregation before I commit? I don't want to go through the cost of the study only to have it applied incorrectly.

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Monique Byrd

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Great question! Here are some ways to vet a CPA's cost segregation experience: 1. Ask directly how many cost segregation studies they've implemented in the past year - you want someone who does this regularly, not just occasionally. 2. Ask them to explain the Form 3115 process for catch-up depreciation - if they can't walk you through this clearly, that's a red flag. 3. See if they can explain the difference between applying cost segregation to new vs. existing properties and how bonus depreciation interacts with it. 4. Ask for references from other real estate investors who've used their services for cost segregation. 5. Many cost segregation companies can recommend CPAs they've worked with successfully - that's actually how I found my current accountant. The cost segregation company should also provide detailed instructions for your CPA on how to implement their findings, but you still want someone who understands the process rather than just following instructions blindly.

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Cost segregation can definitely be worth it for single-family rentals, especially in your situation with real estate professional status. I've worked with several clients who've seen substantial benefits on SFRs. With 4 properties and your REP status, you're looking at potentially significant first-year tax savings. The key is that you can use those accelerated depreciation losses against any income, not just passive income like most investors. For single-family homes, we typically see 15-25% of the property value that can be reclassified to shorter depreciation periods - things like flooring, appliances, landscaping, certain electrical components, and specialized plumbing fixtures. On a $300k property, that could mean $45k-75k in accelerated depreciation. The retroactive application via Form 3115 is particularly powerful since you can "catch up" all the extra depreciation you could have taken on your 2022 properties in one year. This often creates a substantial current-year deduction. Most reputable firms will provide a preliminary estimate of potential savings before you commit to paying for the full study. I'd recommend getting quotes from 2-3 companies and asking for rough projections based on your property values and purchase dates. The study costs (typically $2,500-4,500 per property) should be easily justified by the tax savings if the properties have decent value.

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Ethan Scott

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This is really helpful, especially the specific percentages you mentioned! I'm curious about the timeline for getting these studies done - if I wanted to apply this to my 2024 tax return, when would I need to get started? Also, you mentioned getting quotes from multiple companies - are there any red flags I should watch out for when vetting cost segregation firms?

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