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Has anyone considered the Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A) in relation to Airbnb? I've heard mixed things about whether short-term rentals qualify.
Yes! My Airbnb business qualified for the QBI deduction. The key is whether your activity rises to the level of a "trade or business" under Section 162. I documented the services I provide (cleaning, restocking, guest communication, etc.) and demonstrated regular, continuous activity. My accountant said the IRS has a safe harbor rule that requires 250+ hours of service annually and keeping contemporaneous records.
This is a complex situation that involves several important tax considerations. Based on what you've described, here are the key points to consider: **Material Participation Test**: Since your Airbnb losses are substantial ($27,500), the first question is whether you materially participate in the activity. If you spend significant time managing the property, handling guest communications, cleaning, maintenance, etc., you may qualify as materially participating (generally 500+ hours annually). **Passive vs. Non-Passive Treatment**: If you materially participate, your Airbnb losses can generally offset your W-2 income. However, if it's treated as passive rental activity, you're limited by passive activity loss rules - though there's a $25,000 allowance for rental real estate losses if your MAGI is under $100,000. **Excess Business Loss Limitation**: Even if your losses are non-passive, there's still the excess business loss rule to consider. For 2024, total business losses exceeding $152,000 (single) or $304,000 (married filing jointly) above business income get carried forward. **Documentation is Key**: Keep detailed records of your time spent and services provided to support your material participation claim. This includes guest communications, cleaning coordination, maintenance, marketing, etc. Given the complexity and potential tax savings at stake, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who has experience with short-term rental properties. The rules can be tricky, and proper classification could significantly impact your tax liability.
This is really helpful! I'm new to the Airbnb business and had no idea about the material participation test. I've been treating my short-term rental as just passive income, but reading through this thread makes me think I might be missing out on deductions. I spend about 20-25 hours per week managing my two properties - guest check-ins, cleaning schedules, maintenance issues, updating listings, responding to inquiries. That's definitely over 500 hours annually. Should I be documenting all of this time retroactively for this tax year, or is it too late? Also, does anyone know if using property management software like Airbnb's tools counts toward the hours spent managing the business?
I think everyone's missing something here. While buying stocks/ETFs with company money doesn't create a deductible expense, there could be strategic reasons to do it anyway. My S-corp holds some investments as part of our cash management strategy. The key is understanding it won't reduce your current tax liability. Also, talk to your accountant about the Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A) - if your business qualifies, it can give you a deduction up to 20% of your qualified business income. Much more valuable than trying to hide money in investments.
Are there any downsides to having your S-corp hold investments? Like liability issues or complications at tax time?
There are definitely some considerations when having your S-corp hold investments. On the liability side, corporate investments generally maintain the same liability protection as other business assets, but you want to make sure the investments align with your business purpose. The bigger issues are usually at tax time. Investment income and losses flow through to your personal return, but they're treated differently than business income. Capital gains/losses have different rules and limitations than ordinary business income. Also, if your S-corp starts looking more like an investment company than an operating business, you could run into issues with the IRS questioning your business purpose. Another thing to consider is that when you eventually want to take money out, you'll need to either take distributions or sell the investments first. It can complicate your cash flow planning compared to just keeping cash available.
This is a really common question for S-corp owners! As others have mentioned, investing company cash in stocks/ETFs won't reduce your current tax liability since it's just converting one asset to another, not creating a deductible expense. However, there are some legitimate year-end tax strategies worth considering with that $75k: 1. **Accelerate business expenses**: Purchase equipment, software, or supplies you'll need in 2026 before year-end 2. **Maximize retirement contributions**: Solo 401k or SEP-IRA contributions can be substantial for S-corp owners 3. **Consider bonus depreciation**: Qualifying business assets may be eligible for immediate depreciation 4. **Prepay deductible expenses**: Insurance, rent, or professional services for early 2026 The key is making sure any purchases are ordinary and necessary business expenses, not just trying to park money somewhere. The IRS looks at the substance of transactions, so everything needs to have a legitimate business purpose. I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who can review your specific situation - the savings from proper year-end planning often far exceed the consultation cost.
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the bonus depreciation you mentioned - what types of business assets typically qualify for immediate depreciation? And is there a dollar limit on how much you can depreciate in one year? I've got a consulting business (also S-corp) and wondering if things like office furniture or computer equipment would qualify.
As someone who's been through this exact situation, I'd strongly recommend getting some concrete numbers before making that truck purchase. With your $67k in 1099 income and that $16k annual tax hit, you're definitely in a position where smart vehicle deductions could make a real difference. Here's what I'd suggest: before you buy, calculate both scenarios with actual numbers. For the depreciation route on a $55k truck (assuming 80% business use), you're looking at potentially deducting around $44k in year one with Section 179. At your tax bracket, that could save you roughly $10-12k in taxes the first year alone. But here's the catch - you mentioned you're conservative with deductions and that's smart. Make sure you can genuinely justify that 80% business use percentage, because the IRS will want to see detailed records. If your actual business use is more like 60%, then your deduction drops accordingly. Also consider the cash flow impact. That truck payment might be $800-1000/month, but if you're saving $10k+ in taxes year one, it changes the math significantly. Just remember those big first-year savings mean smaller deductions in future years. Have you considered leasing instead? Sometimes the deduction structure works out better for contractors, especially if you like updating equipment regularly.
This is really helpful perspective! I hadn't considered leasing at all - how does the deduction structure work differently for leases vs purchases? Is it just that you deduct the lease payments instead of depreciation? Also, your point about cash flow is exactly what I've been trying to wrap my head around. If I could actually save $10-12k in taxes that first year, it would basically cover most of the annual truck payments. But I'm nervous about being too aggressive with that business use percentage. My work does require me to haul equipment to job sites, but I'd probably also use it for personal stuff on weekends. Would 70% business use be more realistic/defensible than 80%? I just don't want to get in trouble with the IRS over this.
The 70% business use sounds much more realistic and defensible than 80%, especially if you're planning weekend personal use. The IRS loves to audit vehicle deductions, so being conservative here is smart. For leasing vs buying: With a lease, you deduct the business percentage of your monthly lease payments instead of taking depreciation. So if you lease for $600/month and use it 70% for business, you'd deduct $420/month ($5,040/year). The advantage is consistent annual deductions and no depreciation recapture issues if you switch vehicles. The downside is you don't own anything at the end, and there can be mileage restrictions that might not work for your equipment hauling needs. For your situation with lumpy 1099 income, the big first-year depreciation write-off might be more valuable since it hits that $16k tax bill hard right away. Just make sure you're prepared for smaller deductions in years 2-5. One more thing - since you're hauling heavy equipment, make sure whatever truck you get has the payload capacity you actually need. Don't let the tax tail wag the business dog. A truck that can't properly handle your work loads isn't worth any tax savings.
This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! The point about not letting the tax tail wag the business dog really hits home - I need to make sure I'm buying the right truck for my actual work needs first, then optimize the tax benefits around that. I think you're right about the 70% business use being more defensible. I can definitely document my equipment deliveries and job site visits, but being honest about weekend personal use is probably the safer approach long-term. The lease vs buy comparison is helpful too. Given that big tax hit I'm dealing with each year, that first-year depreciation write-off does sound more appealing than spreading smaller deductions over time with a lease. Plus I like the idea of actually owning the truck at the end. One follow-up question - when you mention payload capacity, are there any tax implications if I go with a truck that's rated higher than what I actually need? Like if I get a 3500 series when a 2500 would handle my loads, does that affect the business justification for the IRS?
I went through something very similar last year - filed in February and didn't get my refund until July! It turned out the IRS had flagged my return for manual review because I claimed both the Child Tax Credit and education credits, which apparently triggers additional scrutiny. A few things that helped me get answers: 1. **Check your tax transcript** - Giovanni's advice about this is spot on. The codes will tell you way more than the "Where's My Refund" tool ever will. 2. **Don't wait for letters** - In my experience, IRS notices can take weeks to arrive or sometimes get lost in the mail. If your transcript shows a 971 code, call them directly rather than waiting. 3. **Document everything** - Keep records of every call attempt, reference numbers, and what representatives tell you. This becomes important if you need to escalate. 4. **Consider the Taxpayer Advocate Service** - If you've been waiting over 120 days (which you have), they can intervene. They're actually pretty effective at cutting through the bureaucracy. The frustrating reality is that certain combinations of credits and deductions just automatically trigger delays, even when everything is perfectly correct. It's not fair, but knowing this helps you prepare for next year. Hang in there - you will get your money!
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm curious about your point regarding certain credit combinations triggering automatic delays. Are there any resources that list which credits or deductions are most likely to cause processing delays? It would be useful to know this for planning purposes in future years. Also, when you finally got through to the IRS, did they tell you upfront that the Child Tax Credit + education credits combination was the issue, or did you have to push for that information?
I'm dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share what I've learned after months of research and calls. The IRS doesn't publish an official list of which credits trigger delays, but based on my experience and talking to multiple agents, here are the common culprits: **High-risk combinations that often cause delays:** - Child Tax Credit + Education Credits (AOTC/Lifetime Learning) - Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) + Additional Child Tax Credit - Recovery Rebate Credit claims (missing stimulus payments) - First-time homebuyer credits - Premium Tax Credits with marketplace insurance **Single items that frequently trigger review:** - Large charitable deductions (especially non-cash) - Home office deductions for self-employed - Casualty loss claims - Prior year minimum tax credits The agents won't always tell you upfront what triggered the review - I had to specifically ask "What caused my return to be flagged?" and even then, some representatives were vague about it. One agent finally explained that their system uses algorithms to score returns for fraud risk, and certain combinations just automatically get higher scores. For future years, if you know you'll be claiming these credits, file as early as possible and consider using direct deposit to speed up the process once it's approved. The delays are frustrating but usually resolve eventually - just takes patience and persistence!
This is incredibly useful information, thank you Dmitry! I wish the IRS would just be transparent about these scoring algorithms instead of leaving taxpayers in the dark. It's frustrating that filing legitimate claims can essentially penalize you with months of delays. One question - when you mention filing "as early as possible," do you mean there's actually a processing advantage to filing in January versus February? I always thought the IRS just processed returns in the order received, but maybe early filers get through the system before the backlog builds up? Also, has anyone had success with adjusting their withholdings to minimize refunds and avoid this whole mess? I'm considering having my employer take out less so I owe a small amount instead of getting a large refund, just to avoid the uncertainty.
Honorah King
I just want to add my experience to help others who might be dealing with this same confusion. I received a $78.55 deposit from TPG PRODUCTS ENTRY: SBTPG LLC ORIG GREEN DOT BANK about two weeks ago and was completely stumped about where it came from. After reading through all these helpful responses, I went digging through my old tax documents and discovered that I had used Credit Karma Tax (now Cash App Taxes) back in 2021 and opted to have their fees deducted from my refund. Sure enough, when I looked at the fine print on my tax documents, TPG was listed as the refund processor. What's particularly frustrating is that I never received any notification about this settlement or deposit - no email, no letter, nothing. The money just appeared in my account with that cryptic bank description that made me think it might be fraudulent. For anyone still trying to figure out their deposit, I'd suggest checking not just the major tax prep companies but also the smaller or newer ones like Credit Karma Tax, Cash App Taxes, or even some of the free filing services. TPG seems to process for a huge range of tax preparation companies, many of which we might not immediately think to check. The amount I received ($78.55) matches exactly what others have reported, which gives me confidence this is part of the legitimate class action settlement everyone's discussing. Thanks to this community for helping solve the mystery!
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Carmen Vega
ā¢This is so helpful! I just got a $42.17 deposit from TPG PRODUCTS ENTRY: SBTPG LLC and was starting to panic thinking it might be some kind of scam. After reading everyone's experiences here, I checked my 2020 tax return and found that I used TaxSlayer's free edition with the fee deduction option - and there it was in tiny print, TPG listed as the processor. It's amazing how many different tax companies use TPG behind the scenes! Like you mentioned, I never got any notification about this settlement either. Just this mysterious deposit that showed up with zero explanation. I was actually planning to call my bank tomorrow to ask about it, but now I feel much more confident it's legitimate. Thanks to everyone who shared their detective work - this thread should be pinned somewhere because I bet tons of people are getting these deposits and have no idea what they're for!
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Sean Doyle
I'm experiencing the exact same thing! Just got a $78.55 deposit from TPG PRODUCTS ENTRY: SBTPG LLC ORIG GREEN DOT BANK this morning and was completely baffled. After reading through everyone's experiences here, I dug through my old tax files and found that I used Jackson Hewitt's online service back in 2022 with the fee deduction option. Looking at my paperwork more carefully, TPG is indeed listed as the payment processor in small print at the bottom - something I completely overlooked at the time. The deposit amount matches exactly what others have reported for these class action settlements, which is reassuring. What's really frustrating is the complete lack of communication about these deposits. No letter, no email explanation, just money appearing in your account with a cryptic bank description that honestly looks suspicious at first glance. I was literally googling "TPG PRODUCTS ENTRY fraud" before I found this thread! For anyone else trying to solve this mystery, definitely check ALL your tax prep services from 2019-2023, even ones you might not think use third-party processors. TPG seems to handle refund processing for almost every major tax preparation company, but they operate completely behind the scenes so most of us never realize we've dealt with them. Thanks to everyone who shared their detective work - this community has been incredibly helpful in solving what could have been a very stressful mystery!
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