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I just received around $38k in scholarships this year, but my tuition only came out to about $22k. This left me with a $16k refund from my university. In previous years, this extra money went directly to cover my dorm expenses, but this year I moved off campus and got the refund sent to me instead. I've been using this money to pay for my apartment rent. I'm trying to figure out my taxes using TurboTax and I'm confused about how to report this. Does scholarship money used for off-campus rent still count as "room and board" expenses? TurboTax is asking me to categorize my scholarship money and I'm not sure if I need to report the excess amount as taxable income or if it's still considered qualified education expenses since I'm using it for housing. Anyone dealt with this situation before? I'm worried about messing up my taxes and either paying too much or getting in trouble with the IRS.
Hey tax folks, I need some help with Form 8606 for a backdoor Roth conversion. I'm totally confused about how to report this properly. I opened my first traditional and Roth IRA accounts this year (2024). Here's what I did: - Made a $9,500 contribution to my traditional IRA for tax year 2024 - Made a $7,800 contribution to my traditional IRA for tax year 2023 (prior year contribution) - Then converted the entire $17,300 from traditional to Roth IRA (backdoor rollover) When I was checking my statements recently, I noticed there was about $7.25 of interest that had accrued in the traditional IRA that I completely forgot about when doing the conversion. I've tried entering all this into both TurboTax and FreeTaxUSA, and they're generating the same Form 8606, but something seems wrong: 1. Line 8 (amount converted to Roth IRA) is completely blank - shouldn't this show my $17,300? 2. Lines 9-12 are all blank as a result 3. Line 13 shows $17,293 as the "nontaxable portion of distributions" 4. Line 14 shows $7 as "total basis" Can someone help me figure out if this is correct or if I'm missing something? I want to make sure I'm reporting this backdoor Roth correctly.
Does anyone know if FreeTaxUSA handles backdoor Roth conversions better than TurboTax? I'm about to do my first conversion and trying to decide which software to use.
Just wanted to add my experience for anyone else dealing with this confusion. I did my first backdoor Roth conversion last year and had the exact same panic when I saw the blank line 8 on Form 8606! What helped me understand it was realizing that the IRS views this as a "nondeductible contribution followed by a distribution" rather than a direct "conversion." So the form is structured to track your basis (the after-tax money you put in) and separate it from any earnings. In your case, you contributed $17,300 of after-tax money, it earned $7.25, and then you distributed $17,300 of it to convert to Roth. The $7.25 that's still sitting in your traditional IRA will be fully taxable if/when you convert it later since it's all earnings. One thing to keep in mind for future years - if you plan to do backdoor Roth conversions regularly, try to convert quickly after making the contribution to minimize any earnings that build up. Makes the tax reporting much cleaner!
So I'm in a bit of a mess and I'm finally trying to straighten things out. I haven't filed my taxes for the last 4 years and honestly don't even know where to begin at this point. I keep putting it off because I'm scared of what might happen, but I know I need to deal with it. My main questions are: Should I file my 2024 taxes on time this year for the April 2025 deadline, or should I wait until after tax season and then file everything (all 4 years) at once? I'm also wondering about refunds - if I am due a refund for this year, will I actually get it or will the IRS just apply it to any late fees and penalties from my unfiled years? I've been employed the whole time with taxes withheld from my paychecks, so I'm hoping I won't owe a ton, but I'm still freaking out about potential fines and interest. Any advice is really appreciated because I'm completely lost.
Whatever you do, don't use those sketchy "tax resolution" companies you see advertising on TV or radio. My brother was in a similar situation (5 years unfiled) and paid one of those companies $3,000 upfront. They literally did NOTHING except file a basic power of attorney form and then kept asking for more money for "additional work." Just file the returns yourself using good tax software or find a reputable local EA (Enrolled Agent) or CPA who specializes in back tax returns. You'll save thousands and actually get your situation resolved.
I was in almost the exact same situation a few years ago - hadn't filed for 3 years and was paralyzed by fear and confusion about where to start. Here's what I learned from going through the process: First, don't wait any longer! File your 2024 return on time in April 2025 - there's no benefit to adding another year to your backlog. You can work on the back years simultaneously. Since you've had taxes withheld from your paychecks, you're likely due refunds for most or all of those years, which means you probably won't face penalties (the IRS only penalizes when you owe). However, you need to file soon because refunds expire after 3 years - you've already lost any 2020 refund permanently. Here's my recommended approach: Start by requesting your wage and income transcripts from the IRS website (they're free) for any years where you don't have your tax documents. Then file the oldest year first and work forward chronologically. The good news is that if you're getting refunds, the IRS will process each year separately, so you don't have to worry about them withholding money from newer years to cover older debts. Each refund will come to you directly. Don't let fear keep you frozen - the reality is almost always better than what you're imagining, especially if you've been having taxes withheld. You've got this!
Trying to find my state ID number on my W-2 from ADP and getting nowhere. โข Checked the ADP app multiple times - no state ID visible โข Looked through all sections of the digital W-2 โข Need this for filing our state taxes (first time filing jointly) โข Already tried logging out and back in Anyone else have this issue with ADP? Is the state ID supposed to be visible to employees or only to employers? Not seeing any clear documentation on this.
I had this exact same issue with ADP last month! After some digging, I found that the state ID number is actually labeled as "Employer's State ID Number" in the ADP system and is located in a completely different section than you'd expect. Go to Tax Statements > Year-End Forms > View W-2 > then click on "Additional Information" at the bottom of the page. It should be listed there along with other employer information. I was able to complete my state filing once I found this, and my refund was processed within 14 days. ADP's interface isn't the most intuitive, but the information is definitely in there!
I've been using ADP for about 3 years now and ran into this same frustrating issue when I first started filing jointly with my spouse. What worked for me was actually calling ADP's employee support line directly at 1-800-225-5237. They walked me through finding it - turns out in my company's ADP setup, the state ID was buried under a tab called "Employer Tax Information" that I had to expand manually. The rep also mentioned that some employers configure their ADP differently, so the location can vary even within the same platform. If you're still stuck after trying all the suggestions here, that phone call might save you hours of clicking around. They were surprisingly helpful and the wait time wasn't too bad (about 10 minutes when I called mid-morning).
So last year we got hit with owing $2,275 in taxes, and we both adjusted our W-4s to increase withholding. Well, tax time rolls around this year and somehow we owe $5,225!!! My wife is completely losing it. Let me break down our situation with some basic numbers. Here's what we're looking at: ||Me|My Wife| |:-|:-|:-| |Wages|$124,111|$91,894| |Medicare wages/tips|$131,796|$91,894| |Federal tax withheld|$14,331|$9,999| |Social Security withheld|$8,171|$5,698| |Medicare tax withheld|$1,911|$1,333| |Group term life insurance|$158|$60| |401K contributions|$7,685|N/A| |Employer health coverage|$9,581|$10,785| |Roth 401K contributions|N/A|$5,605| My wife also has: - Interest income: $6 - Dividend income: $2,539 - Capital gains/losses: -$1,564 We have a home, but I calculated our itemized deductions only came to around $20K, so we went with the standard deduction. Total Tax: $29,555 Income tax withheld: $24,330 Amount we owe: $5,225 Does anything look weird here? Should we consider filing separately? My understanding is the Roth 401K might be taxed in a lower bracket if she files on her own. I'm trying to find a CPA who can see us ASAP. If that doesn't pan out, I'm thinking about paying the $5,225 and filing an extension to figure this out properly. We have our first baby coming any day now, and my wife is seriously stressed about this tax hit. We have savings to cover it, but I'm hoping to find ways to reduce what we owe. I'm worried we just didn't have enough withheld last year despite the W-4 changes. Any advice would be really appreciated. Thanks!
Has anyone mentioned checking if you're having the correct amount withheld for state taxes too? I had the same federal issue as OP but was also getting killed on state taxes because my employer was withholding at the single rate instead of married rate for state purposes.
This is such an important point! I had the exact same issue but in reverse - my state withholding was at married rate when I should have been single. You need to check both your federal AND state W-4 forms separately as they often have different requirements and sometimes the state form doesn't automatically update when you change your federal withholding.
This is a really common situation that hits dual-income households hard. I went through almost the exact same thing two years ago - owed $4,200 despite thinking we had adjusted our withholding properly. The root issue is that the standard payroll withholding calculations assume each spouse is the sole earner, so they don't account for your combined income pushing you into higher tax brackets. When both of you are earning substantial amounts ($124k and $92k), the withholding tables significantly underestimate your actual tax liability. A few specific things that likely contributed to your situation: 1. **Investment income**: Your wife's $2,539 in dividends isn't subject to withholding, so that's additional taxable income with zero tax paid upfront. 2. **Medicare wages discrepancy**: I noticed your Medicare wages ($131,796) are higher than your regular wages ($124,111) - this suggests some additional compensation (maybe employer-paid life insurance over $50k?) that increases your tax liability. 3. **Marginal vs effective rate confusion**: With your combined income around $216k, you're likely in the 24% marginal bracket, but your withholding was only about 11.3% of income. For immediate relief with the baby coming, definitely pay the $5,225 by the deadline to avoid penalties, then file the extension to sort out next year's withholding properly. The stress isn't worth the small potential savings from trying to reduce this year's bill. Going forward, use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator specifically designed for multiple-job households, and don't forget to account for the child tax credit once your baby arrives - that should help offset some of next year's liability.
Connor O'Neill
Something nobody's mentioned yet - check if you qualify for education tax credits like the American Opportunity Credit or Lifetime Learning Credit. Even though your scholarship money used for rent is taxable, you might be able to offset some of that tax with education credits. The American Opportunity Credit can be up to $2,500 and the Lifetime Learning Credit up to $2,000. You can't double-dip (use the same expenses for both tax-free scholarships and tax credits), but since your rent isn't a qualified education expense anyway, you might still qualify for credits based on your tuition and book expenses.
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Giovanni Rossi
AuthorThanks for mentioning this! Do you know if I can claim these credits if my parents still claim me as a dependent on their taxes? I'm trying to figure out if I should file independently or not.
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Connor O'Neill
If your parents claim you as a dependent, then they would be the ones eligible to claim the education credits, not you. This is a key point that many students and families miss! However, even if your parents claim the education credits, you still need to report any taxable scholarship income on your own tax return. The taxable portion of scholarships is income to the student, regardless of dependent status. So you may still need to file a tax return even if your parents claim you as a dependent.
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LunarEclipse
fyi, i worked at the financial aid office at my school and we dealt with this ALL the time. scholarship $ for off-campus housing is 100% taxable - no way around it. one trick tho: save receipts for books and required supplies (lab equipment, art supplies for classes, etc) because those ARE qualified expenses even if not paid directly to the school. you can offset some of that taxable scholarship $ by documenting these other qualified expenses. most students don't realize this and end up paying more tax than necessary!
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Yara Khalil
This is super helpful! Would things like a laptop or special software required for classes count as "required supplies" too? My graphic design program requires Adobe Creative Cloud and a decent computer.
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Lorenzo McCormick
Yes, if your program specifically requires those items! The key is that they have to be "required for enrollment or attendance" by the institution. If your graphic design program syllabus or course requirements explicitly state that students must have Adobe Creative Cloud and a computer with certain specs, then those would qualify as required supplies. However, if it's just "recommended" or if you could technically complete the coursework without them (even if it would be difficult), then they might not qualify. I'd suggest keeping documentation showing these are program requirements - syllabus excerpts, program handbooks, etc. The IRS can be pretty strict about the "required" part, so having proof is important if you ever get audited.
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