Help with enrolling in EFTPS as a sole proprietor - EIN vs SSN question
I've been running my small pottery business as a sole proprietor for about 3 years now. I'm finally getting organized with my tax situation and want to start using EFTPS to make my estimated quarterly tax payments instead of mailing checks like I've been doing. I'm confused about whether I should sign up using my SSN or the EIN I got when I first started (but honestly haven't really used much since). Does it matter which one I use to enroll in the EFTPS system? Another complication - I'm also starting a small online coaching business this year (also as a sole proprietor). How does EFTPS work if you have multiple sole proprietor businesses? Do I need separate EFTPS accounts for each business or is it all tied to me as an individual? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Tax stuff always makes my head spin.
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
The good news is that EFTPS is actually pretty straightforward for sole proprietors! Since you're a sole proprietor, your business is not a separate legal entity from you as an individual - this makes your tax situation simpler. You should enroll in EFTPS using the same taxpayer ID that you use to file your tax return. For most sole proprietors who file Schedule C with their personal returns, this would be your SSN. However, if you're currently using your EIN to make federal tax deposits or file returns, you should use that instead for consistency. For your situation with multiple sole proprietor businesses, you only need one EFTPS enrollment because all your businesses are reported on the same tax return (your personal 1040 with multiple Schedule Cs). When you make your estimated quarterly tax payments, you're making them based on your total expected tax liability across all your sole proprietorship income. One tip: After you enroll, it takes about a week to receive your PIN by mail, so plan ahead if you have a payment deadline coming up!
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Ava Thompson
•So if I'm about to start my first business as a sole proprietor, but haven't gotten an EIN yet, should I just use my SSN to sign up for EFTPS? Or should I get an EIN first and then use that?
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
•If you're just starting your first business as a sole proprietor, you can absolutely use your SSN to sign up for EFTPS. Many sole proprietors operate just fine using only their SSN and never get an EIN. However, if you're planning to hire employees, open a business bank account (many banks require this), or want to avoid using your SSN on business documents for privacy reasons, then it makes sense to get an EIN first. The good news is getting an EIN is free and can be done online through the IRS website in just a few minutes.
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Miguel Ramos
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Zainab Ibrahim
•Does this service actually connect to EFTPS for you? Or does it just give you advice about how to do it? I'm terrible with government websites and always seem to mess something up.
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StarSailor
•I'm skeptical about these tax services... How does it actually help with EFTPS specifically? Isn't that just a government website you have to use directly anyway?
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Miguel Ramos
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Zainab Ibrahim
Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai based on the suggestion above. It was actually super helpful for my EFTPS confusion! I have a photography business and a separate graphic design gig, and was totally confused about how to handle both with EFTPS. The system asked me detailed questions about both businesses, analyzed my previous tax returns, and gave me clear instructions on using my SSN for EFTPS since neither business had employees. It even helped me calculate the correct quarterly payments based on both income streams combined, which I was doing wrong before. The step-by-step EFTPS enrollment guide made the process way easier than when I tried to figure it out myself from the IRS instructions.
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Connor O'Brien
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Yara Sabbagh
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StarSailor
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Connor O'Brien
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StarSailor
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Keisha Johnson
One important thing I learned when setting up EFTPS as a sole proprietor with multiple businesses - make sure your estimated payments cover your self-employment tax too, not just income tax! I made this mistake my first year and got hit with an underpayment penalty. Since all your sole proprietorships are considered together for SE tax purposes, you need to estimate your total profit across all businesses and calculate the 15.3% SE tax on that amount (subject to annual limits of course).
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Paolo Rizzo
•Do you calculate the SE tax on each business separately before combining, or add all the net incomes together first and then calculate? My accountant said something about losses in one business offsetting gains in another, but I'm not sure how that works with SE tax.
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Keisha Johnson
•You add all the net incomes together first from all your Schedule C businesses, and then calculate the SE tax on that combined amount. This is actually beneficial because if one business has a loss, it reduces the total self-employment income subject to SE tax. For example, if Business A makes $30,000 profit and Business B loses $10,000, you'd calculate SE tax on $20,000 rather than paying SE tax on $30,000 from Business A alone. The losses from one sole proprietorship absolutely can offset the gains from another before calculating SE tax.
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QuantumQuest
Does anyone know the timeframe for EFTPS enrollment? I need to make a quarterly payment due in 2 weeks but haven't enrolled yet. Is that enough time?
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Amina Sy
•It takes about 5-7 business days to get your PIN in the mail after enrolling. Then you need to activate your account with that PIN. So 2 weeks is cutting it close, especially if there are any mail delays. You might want to make this upcoming payment by check with Form 1040-ES just to be safe, then use EFTPS for future quarters.
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QuantumQuest
•Thanks for the info. That's a bummer but I'll do the check this time. Wish they had an expedited option or something for the PIN.
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Oliver Fischer
Just a heads up to the original poster - if you haven't been making consistent estimated tax payments before now, you might want to check if you'll face any underpayment penalties. Starting EFTPS now is great going forward, but it doesn't fix any past underpayment issues. The IRS has a "safe harbor" rule where you generally avoid penalties if you pay 100% of last year's tax liability (or 110% if your income was over $150,000) or 90% of this year's liability in timely estimated payments.
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Sofia Hernandez
•Thanks for pointing this out. I've actually been making the quarterly payments by check until now, I just wanted to switch to the electronic system to make it easier. I did have a penalty two years ago when I first started and underestimated, but I've been more careful since then! Do you know if switching to EFTPS mid-year causes any issues with how the IRS tracks your payment history?
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Oliver Fischer
•You're welcome! Sounds like you're on top of things with your payments - many new business owners miss that part. Switching to EFTPS mid-year won't cause any tracking issues with the IRS. They care that payments are made on time and in sufficient amounts, not which method you use. The IRS systems will recognize all your payments regardless of method - EFTPS payments will just show up in your account faster than checks. In fact, using EFTPS actually helps with tracking since you can view all your payment history online once you're set up, including payments you previously made by other methods.
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Maria Gonzalez
As someone who just went through this exact process last month, I can confirm that the enrollment timeline is crucial to plan for. I'd also add that when you do enroll, make sure to keep your EFTPS login credentials somewhere very secure - unlike other online accounts, you can't just reset your password easily if you forget it. One thing that helped me was setting up recurring reminders in my calendar for the quarterly due dates (January 15, April 15, June 15, and September 15) so I never miss a payment deadline again. The peace of mind from electronic payments is definitely worth the initial setup hassle! Also, Sofia, since you mentioned having multiple businesses, you might want to consider keeping separate records of which payments correspond to which business income for your own bookkeeping, even though it all goes through one EFTPS account. It makes tax prep much easier at year-end.
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NightOwl42
•This is really helpful advice! I'm also dealing with multiple income streams and hadn't thought about the bookkeeping aspect. When you say keep separate records of payments for each business, do you mean like splitting the quarterly payment amount and noting "X dollars for pottery business, Y dollars for coaching business" in your records? Or is there a more formal way to track this for tax purposes? I'm worried about making mistakes since this is all new to me - the pottery business has been pretty consistent but the coaching income is going to be much more variable.
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