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Tax implications of renting my old primary residence to parents at-cost - what income should I report?

So my wife and I moved to a new house last year and decided to rent out our old primary residence to my parents for 2024. We only charged them the mortgage payment each month (we weren't looking to make money, just cover our costs). Now we're doing our taxes with TurboTax and I'm confused about how to report this. Do we need to report the full rental income (what they paid us monthly)? Or just the "profits" (which would be essentially zero since we only charged the mortgage amount)? This is our first and only year as landlords, and we don't plan to continue this arrangement beyond 2024. I'm also not sure which schedule this information belongs on in our tax return. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! Tax season is already stressful enough without these curveballs.

Isn't there like some sort of exception for family rentals? I remember reading somewhere that the IRS treats them differently. Someting about "personal use" vs "business use" of the property if you don't charge market rates? Also, what if you only rent for part of the year like the OP said? Do u have to prorate everything?

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Yes, there's definitely a distinction. If you rent to a family member at below fair market value, the IRS may classify it as personal use rather than a rental business. If that happens, you can only deduct expenses up to the amount of rental income you received, and you report those on Schedule A instead of Schedule E. For part-year rentals, yes, you would prorate your expenses. You'd only claim the portion of annual expenses that correspond to the rental period. For example, if you rented it for 6 months, you'd claim 50% of the annual property taxes, insurance, etc. as rental expenses. You'd also only take 6 months worth of depreciation for that tax year.

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago when I rented my old house to my in-laws. Here's what I learned the hard way: You absolutely need to report ALL the rental income you received (the mortgage payments) on Schedule E, even though you're only charging costs. The IRS doesn't care that you're not making a profit - income is income. The tricky part with family rentals is proving it's a legitimate business activity. Since you're charging below market rate, make sure you document everything properly - written lease agreement, regular payment schedule, receipts for all expenses. Without proper documentation, the IRS might reclassify it as personal use and limit your deductions. For the depreciation issue others mentioned - yes, you MUST calculate it even if it creates a loss on paper. TurboTax will guide you through this, but you'll need to know the fair market value of the property when you converted it to rental use (not what you originally paid for it). One more tip: keep track of the days it was actually rented vs vacant. Since you said this was only for 2024, you'll need to prorate all your annual expenses (insurance, property taxes, etc.) based on the actual rental period. The good news is that even at cost, you'll likely show a paper loss after all deductions, which can offset other income on your return.

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This is really helpful advice, especially about documenting everything properly! I'm curious though - when you say "fair market value when converted to rental use," how did you determine that? Did you get an actual appraisal or use some other method? I'm worried about getting that number wrong since it affects the depreciation calculation. Also, did you end up having any issues with the IRS since you were renting to family at below market rate?

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For the fair market value, I used a combination of methods since I didn't want to pay for a full appraisal just for tax purposes. I looked at recent sales of comparable homes in my neighborhood (you can find this on Zillow, Realtor.com, or your county's property records), checked what similar rentals were going for, and also looked at my most recent property tax assessment. I averaged these numbers to get a reasonable estimate. The key is being able to justify your valuation if questioned. I kept screenshots of the comparable sales and rental listings, plus my property tax statement. My accountant said this approach was perfectly acceptable for tax purposes. As for IRS issues - I haven't been audited (fingers crossed), but I made sure to treat it as a legitimate business from day one. Written lease, monthly rent checks that were deposited into a separate account, detailed expense tracking, everything. I think the documentation is what protects you more than the actual rent amount, as long as you're reporting everything correctly. The below-market rent actually worked in my favor tax-wise since my expenses exceeded the rental income, creating a deductible loss. Just make sure you're following the passive activity loss rules if your income is over certain thresholds.

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Return Accepted 2/27 - Transcript Shows 'No Record of Filing' and WMR Not Updated

I submitted our small business tax return on February 27, 2024, and received confirmation of acceptance from the IRS on the same date. As of April 12, 2024 (45 days later), the IRS transcript system still shows 'no record of filing' when I attempt to access our 2023 return transcript. The Where's My Refund tool has not updated either, remaining at the initial 'Return Received' status. I have confirmed all our business EIN information is correct, and our prior year returns show up properly in the transcript system. Our quarterly estimated payments for 2023 are also reflected correctly in our account. This delay is impacting our Q2 financial planning. Has anyone else experienced this specific issue with the current tax season processing? I'm looking for concrete timelines based on others' experiences.

Is anyone else concerned about how the IRS seems to have completely different systems that don't talk to each other? I'm skeptical that a return can be "accepted" but then show no record of filing for 45+ days. Shouldn't acceptance mean it's in their system? This feels like a fundamental technology failure that they're just expecting taxpayers to deal with. Every other financial institution I deal with can show real-time transaction status.

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Omg this is SO common with biz returns! The IRS has like 3 diff systems that don't sync up. My CPA explained that the acceptance is just from the initial receiving system (kinda like getting a ticket number at the DMV) but then it has to go thru actual processing before hitting the transcript db. Last yr my S-corp return took 53 days to show up in transcripts after being "accepted" and another 2 wks for the refund. The WMR tool is basically useless for anything but the simplest returns. The whole thing is ridic outdated but Congress keeps cutting their tech budget so ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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I think I've read somewhere that the IRS is still running some systems on COBOL programming from the 1960s? That might explain why everything seems so disconnected and slow.

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You're absolutely right about the COBOL systems! I work in government IT consulting and the IRS is notorious for having some of the oldest legacy systems in federal government. They've been trying to modernize for decades but it's incredibly complex to replace systems that process trillions of dollars in transactions. The Individual Master File (IMF) and Business Master File (BMF) systems are particularly ancient - they were designed when tax returns were much simpler. This is why we see these weird disconnects where acceptance happens instantly but transcript updates can take weeks.

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IRS Debt Offset Rules - Will They Take My 2024 Refund?

I have an outstanding balance with the IRS from my 2022 taxes (filed on April 15, 2023). Surprisingly, they did not offset my refund last year when I filed on February 28, 2023. I am hoping for the same outcome this year as I urgently need these funds for settling into my new country. Update on March 12, 2024: I confirmed I owe both federal and state taxes. I understand the state will definitely claim what I owe from my refund. Has anyone with an outstanding IRS balance still received their federal refund? I need to plan my finances very carefully for the next few months.

If you're concerned about your refund being offset, you should consider adjusting your withholding immediately rather than waiting for a refund that might not come. By filing a new W-4 with your employer, you can reduce your withholding and increase your take-home pay now. This approach has several advantages in your situation: 1. You receive the money incrementally throughout the year rather than waiting for a lump sum 2. Funds that never become a "refund" cannot be offset through TOP 3. You can use the additional income to address your tax debt directly The IRS Withholding Estimator tool can help you calculate the appropriate adjustments to your W-4. This strategy is particularly effective for taxpayers with known liabilities who need to maximize their cash flow.

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I went through something very similar and wanted to share what I learned. The IRS offset system can be unpredictable, but there are some warning signs to watch for. First, check if you've received any recent notices - specifically Form CP504 or Letter LT11. These are sent before they can legally offset your refund. If you haven't gotten these, you might have some protection. Second, log into your IRS online account and look at your account transcript. Look for any codes that might indicate special status - things like "currently not collectible" or active payment agreements can sometimes prevent offset. The reality is that what happened last year was probably due to timing delays in their system. Your debt has likely been "certified" to the Treasury Offset Program by now, which means they're authorized to take your refund. My advice? Don't count on getting the full refund. Maybe plan for receiving half or none of it, and if you get more than expected, consider it a bonus. The stress of depending on money that might not come isn't worth it, especially when you're settling into a new country and need financial stability. Have you considered calling the IRS to set up a payment plan? Sometimes having an active agreement can provide some protection, though it's not guaranteed.

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This is really helpful advice, thank you! I'm new to dealing with IRS issues and had no idea there were specific forms to look out for. I just checked my mailbox and realized I might have thrown away some IRS mail thinking it was junk - that's probably not smart! Your point about planning for the worst case scenario makes a lot of sense. I've been in similar situations with other financial stuff and the uncertainty is always the hardest part. It sounds like setting up a payment plan might be worth exploring even if it doesn't guarantee protection - at least it shows good faith effort to resolve the debt. Do you know if there's a minimum amount they'll accept for monthly payments, or is it based on your financial situation? I'm trying to figure out if this is something I could actually afford while getting settled.

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@Sofia Ramirez - Great question about payment plans! The IRS actually has pretty flexible options. For debts under $50,000, you can usually qualify for a streamlined installment agreement online without submitting financial statements. The minimum payment is typically around $25-50 per month, but they ll'work with what you can afford. Since you re'settling into a new country, you might qualify for Currently "Not Collectible status" if your expenses exceed your income. This temporarily pauses collection activity while you get on your feet. You d'need to submit Form 433-F showing your financial hardship. One thing to keep in mind - even if you set up a payment plan, it doesn t'always prevent refund offset. But it does show good faith and can sometimes provide partial protection. The key is being proactive rather than waiting for them to come after you. @Malik Johnson is absolutely right about not throwing away IRS mail! Even if it looks like junk, those notices contain important deadlines and rights information. Set up an online account at irs.gov too - you can see all your notices there and track your account status in real time.

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Need Letter 6475 for Economic Impact Payment or Can I File Without It?

I'm preparing my tax documentation for 2023 filing and conducting a systematic review of all required forms. I've received Letter 6419 for the Child Tax Credit payments, which I've added to my documentation portfolio. However, I haven't received Letter 6475 regarding the Economic Impact Payment (Recovery Rebate Credit). According to my understanding of IRS Publication 17, this documentation is required for accurate filing. Does the standard filing protocol require waiting until this form arrives, or is there an alternative verification methodology I can employ? I'm tracking all potential tax credits meticulously to optimize my position.

According to Internal Revenue Code ยง6428B, the third Economic Impact Payment was authorized only for tax year 2021, with no provisions for continuation in subsequent years. Treasury Regulation ยง1.6428B-1 further clarifies that the Recovery Rebate Credit reconciliation was limited to the 2021 tax return filing period. I've reviewed numerous cases where taxpayers delayed filing unnecessarily waiting for documentation that no longer exists. There is no statutory requirement to receive Letter 6475 for your 2023 filing as the credit itself is no longer available under current tax law.

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As someone who went through this exact confusion last year, I can confirm you're overthinking this! The Economic Impact Payments (stimulus checks) were a temporary pandemic response that ended after 2021. Letter 6475 simply doesn't exist for 2023 tax filing because there were no stimulus payments to report for that year. You're absolutely right to be systematic about your documentation - that's smart tax planning - but in this case you're looking for a form that literally doesn't apply to your current filing year. Your Letter 6419 for the Child Tax Credit is exactly what you need for 2023. Go ahead and file with confidence! The IRS has moved on from the stimulus era, and so should we taxpayers.

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Unexpected $11k IRS refund with EITC and CTC - Is this amount normal?

Finally got my transcript updated and I'm seeing an $11k refund amount which seems really high? Made around 44k last year with 2 kids, married filing jointly. Anyone else get a larger than normal refund? Starting to worry if this is correct or if there's going to be issues.

make sure u put that money somewhere safe! uncle sam giveth and uncle sam taketh away ๐Ÿคก

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That sounds about right for your income and family size! With 44k income and 2 kids, you'd qualify for substantial EITC (around $6-7k) plus Child Tax Credit. The IRS has been processing a lot of adjustments from prior year credits too. Just make sure all your info matches what you filed - income, dependents, etc. If everything checks out on your transcript, you should be good to go! ๐Ÿ™Œ

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