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So I just got my first paycheck for my new job and noticed there's no federal tax being withheld at all. I filled out a W-4 when I started but somehow it's not taking anything out for federal taxes. I'm getting paid about $1,250 biweekly, so definitely enough to owe taxes. I checked my pay stub and it shows deductions for Social Security and Medicare, but the federal withholding line shows $0.00. I'm worried that if this keeps happening, I'll end up owing a huge amount when I file next year and might even get hit with penalties. I don't want to be scrambling to pay a big tax bill in April. Has anyone dealt with this before? Should I talk to HR or is there something I need to fix on my W-4? Really freaking out about this!!!
I just opened a small retail shop at the end of December 2024 and only brought in around $1,350 for that tax year. My shop isn't doing great financially right now, and I'm really hesitating about spending money on a CPA when funds are already tight. I've always handled my personal tax returns myself with no problems, but I was planning to hire an accountant for the business stuff. The thing is, I got the CPA's questionnaire and it looks practically identical to what TurboTax asks. For a business that barely operated in 2024 and made such a small amount, is there any real reason I shouldn't just file myself using tax software this one time? I'm trying to cut costs wherever possible until the business gets more established.
One more thing to consider - tax software is getting better every year at handling small business situations. I've been using FreeTaxUSA for my Etsy shop for years and it's way cheaper than TurboTax but does everything I need.
I'm in a very similar boat - just started my consulting business in late 2024 and made about $2,100. I was also stressing about whether to hire a CPA, but after reading everyone's advice here, I think I'm going to try the DIY route this year too. One thing I learned from talking to other small business owners is that you can always amend your return later if you miss something significant. For our revenue levels, the potential mistakes aren't going to be catastrophic. Plus, going through the process yourself this first year will help you understand your business finances better, which is valuable knowledge as you grow. I'd say save the CPA money for now and put it toward marketing or inventory for your shop instead. That investment is more likely to generate returns at this stage than paying hundreds for tax prep on such a straightforward situation.
So this tax scenario is really confusing me. I started a side business last year while keeping my regular job. I invested about $12,500 from my W-2 income into getting the business running, but it ended up losing all that money in its first year. From what I understand, as a sole proprietor, I can carry forward those business losses to offset future business profits. But I also know that same $12,500 loss reduced my personal taxable income for that year (I filed Schedule C with my personal return). What I don't understand is - if I already got a tax benefit by reducing my personal income tax, how does the carry forward work? Am I essentially getting to "double dip" on that $12,500 loss? Once by reducing my personal taxes when it happened, and again in the future when my business becomes profitable? I'm trying to understand when and how that money actually gets taxed. If I made $75,000 at my day job, then lost $12,500 in my business, my taxable income was $62,500. But I still have that $12,500 loss carryforward for my business. It seems like I'm getting two tax benefits from the same money. What am I missing here?
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that there are actually limits on business losses you can claim against other income in a given year. Section 461(l) limits excess business losses for non-corporate taxpayers. For 2023, you can only offset up to $289,000 (or $578,000 if married filing jointly) of non-business income with business losses. Anything above that becomes an NOL carryforward. Also, if your business loses money for 3 out of 5 consecutive years, the IRS might classify it as a hobby rather than a business, and then you lose the ability to deduct those losses against other income entirely.
But most small businesses like what OP is describing wouldn't hit anywhere near those $289k limits, right? Seems like you'd need to be losing a TON of money for those limits to matter.
You're right that most small sole proprietorships won't hit the Section 461(l) limits - I just wanted to point out that there are actually some caps on business losses that can be taken against other income. Many people don't realize there are any limits at all. The hobby loss rule is much more likely to affect typical small businesses though. If you show losses for 3+ years out of 5, the IRS might reclassify your business as a hobby, especially if you have substantial income from other sources. Then all those losses can't be deducted against your other income. This happens quite often with side businesses that consistently lose money.
The way I understand it (as a fellow sole proprietor) is that there's no such thing as a "business loss carryforward" for Schedule C businesses. When you have a loss, it immediately offsets your other income in that tax year. The confusion might be coming from corporations, partnerships and other entities where losses ARE tracked separately. But for sole props, it's all just your personal money - the business doesn't exist as a separate tax entity. That's actually a benefit - you get to use those losses right away instead of waiting for future business profits!
Thanks for explaining! So basically once I've used the loss to reduce my personal income that year, it's "used up" and doesn't carry forward to future years of the business? That makes sense - I think I was confusing it with how corporations work. Would I get any different treatment if I formed an LLC instead of being a sole proprietor? Or would it work exactly the same way tax-wise?
For a single-member LLC, it would work exactly the same way tax-wise. By default, a single-member LLC is treated as a "disregarded entity" for tax purposes, which means you still file Schedule C just like a sole proprietorship. The business income and losses still flow directly to your personal tax return. The only way you'd get different tax treatment is if you elected to have your LLC taxed as an S-Corp or C-Corp, but that comes with additional complexity and requirements. For most small side businesses like yours, the default LLC treatment (same as sole prop) is perfectly fine and gives you the same immediate benefit of using losses against your other income. So to directly answer your question - forming an LLC wouldn't change how your business losses are handled on your taxes at all, assuming you stick with the default tax treatment.
Just got blindsided by one of my newer business clients yesterday. They casually mentioned they changed their fiscal year end date mid-year, creating a short tax period that we weren't prepared for at all! Apparently they did this back in August but never thought to tell us until now when we're scheduling their year-end work. This completely throws off our tax planning strategy we had in place. We'll now need to file a short period return and then prepare for another full year return shortly after. I'm worried about the implications for their depreciation schedules, estimated tax payments, and whether we need to formally notify the IRS about this change. Has anyone dealt with this kind of surprise before? What forms do we need to file for the change? And should I be concerned about any red flags this might raise with the IRS? I'm especially wondering about the timing requirements - is it too late to properly notify the IRS about a change that already happened months ago?
Has anyone dealt with QBI deduction calculations for a short year? Trying to figure out if there are special considerations there.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential impact on retirement plan contributions. If your client has a SEP-IRA, Solo 401(k), or defined benefit plan, the short tax year will affect the contribution limits and deadlines. The contribution limits need to be prorated based on the number of months in the short period. For example, if they have a SEP-IRA and the short period is only 8 months, their maximum contribution would be 8/12 of what it would normally be. This could significantly impact their tax planning strategy, especially if they were counting on making large retirement contributions to reduce their tax liability. Also worth checking if they have any existing installment agreements with the IRS for estimated taxes - those will need to be recalculated for both the short period and the new tax year going forward. The IRS is usually accommodating about adjusting payment schedules if you're proactive about notifying them of the change.
I'm 26 and have been filing taxes for about 5 years now, but I still feel completely lost when it comes to understanding all the tax rules. Every time I think I'm getting the hang of it, there's some new deduction or credit I didn't know about. I've been paying someone to do my taxes because I'm worried about messing something up, but I wonder - is this normal? How long does it actually take to feel confident doing your own taxes? Does anyone actually fully understand all the tax rules, or are most people just winging it like me? I keep thinking I should learn to do them myself to save money, but the whole process is so intimidating...
I'm 24 and just did my own taxes for the first time using TurboTax. Is it normal that it took me like 3 whole days to figure it out??? Everyone says it's "easy" but I kept second-guessing everything.
Don't feel bad about taking your time - doing taxes right is way better than doing them fast! I've been doing my own for about 8 years now and still sometimes spend a weekend on them when I want to make sure I'm not missing anything. The second-guessing is totally normal, especially for deductions. I keep a little tax folder throughout the year now where I throw receipts and documents as I get them. Makes tax time way less stressful when everything's already organized. Pro tip: if you're using TurboTax, they have a "review" feature at the end that double-checks everything and explains why certain things were included/excluded. Really helped build my confidence in the early years!
Harper Thompson
You might want to double check your state tax withholding too! I fixed my federal but completely forgot about state taxes and got hit with a separate penalty from my state tax agency. Some states are really aggressive about the underpayment penalties.
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Caleb Stark
This is so true. I live in California and they're way more strict about underpayment than the feds. They hit me with a penalty even though I was only short by like $300.
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Yara Nassar
Don't panic - this is actually pretty common with new jobs! The most likely culprit is how you filled out your W-4. Even small mistakes can result in zero federal withholding. Here's what I'd recommend doing immediately: 1. Contact your HR/payroll department and ask to see the W-4 you submitted. Look specifically at line 4(c) - if you accidentally put a large number there thinking it was for dependents, that could explain the zero withholding. 2. Use the IRS Withholding Calculator on their website (it's free) to figure out exactly what your W-4 should look like based on your income and filing status. 3. Submit a corrected W-4 ASAP. Your employer is required to implement changes by the next payroll period. Since you're catching this early in the year, you should be fine on penalties as long as you fix it soon. The IRS generally doesn't penalize you if you pay at least 90% of your current year tax liability or 100% of last year's (110% if your prior year AGI was over $150k). If you're still worried about owing too much, you can always specify additional withholding on line 4(c) of your new W-4 to be extra safe. Better to get a refund than owe a big chunk in April!
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