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@Savanna Franklin - I understand your confusion completely! I went through this exact same situation two years ago after a workplace injury that left me with a 40% permanent disability rating. The good news is that your workers comp settlement is absolutely tax-free under IRC 104(a)(1) and Revenue Ruling 68-10. Your buddy is 100% correct - these payments are tax-exempt, and your cousin is completely wrong about needing to be retired. The tax exclusion applies regardless of your age, employment status, or whether you're collecting a pension. The only requirement is that the payment is compensation for a work-related injury under workers compensation law. You don't need any special forms, and you don't "deduct" anything. You simply don't report the workers comp settlement as income at all on your tax return. It's excluded from your gross income entirely. Just make sure to keep all your settlement paperwork, disability rating documentation, and any correspondence from your state's workers comp board. These documents prove that your payment qualifies for the IRC 104(a)(1) exclusion. Since you can still work light duty, any future wages from that work will be taxable as normal income, but your disability settlement remains completely tax-free. Don't stress about this - workers comp disability settlements have very straightforward tax treatment when they're legitimate compensation for workplace injuries like yours!
@Jamal Thompson - Thanks for the reassuring response! As someone new to this community and dealing with a workers comp situation myself, it s'really helpful to see so many people sharing their experiences with IRC 104 a(1)(and) Revenue Ruling 68-10. I m'currently waiting on my disability rating determination after a workplace accident last month, and reading through this entire thread has been incredibly educational. The consistent message from everyone who s'been through this process is really comforting - that legitimate workers comp disability payments are tax-exempt regardless of age or employment status. Your point about keeping all the documentation is well-taken. I ve'already started organizing my paperwork based on the advice shared throughout this discussion. It s'clear that having everything properly documented makes the whole process much smoother, both for tax filing and for peace of mind. One quick question - did you find it helpful to proactively communicate with your tax preparer about the workers comp settlement before filing, or is this something most tax professionals are already familiar with?
@Savanna Franklin - I've been following this thread with great interest as someone who recently went through a similar situation. Based on all the excellent information shared here, I want to emphasize a few key points for your peace of mind: Your 35% permanent disability rating settlement is absolutely tax-exempt under IRC 104(a)(1) and Revenue Ruling 68-10. Your buddy was completely right, and your cousin's information about needing to be retired is totally incorrect. The tax exemption applies to anyone receiving legitimate workers compensation benefits for work-related injuries, regardless of age or employment status. What I found most helpful during my own experience was creating a simple filing system specifically for workers comp documentation. Keep your settlement agreement, disability rating letter, medical records establishing the work-related injury, and any correspondence from your state's workers compensation board all together. This makes tax filing straightforward and gives you everything you need if questions ever arise. You don't report the settlement as income at all - it's completely excluded from your gross income, not deducted. No special forms needed. Just make sure any future light duty wages you earn are reported as regular taxable income (those are separate from your settlement). The stress of uncertainty is definitely worse than the actual tax treatment, which is very straightforward for legitimate workers comp benefits. You're handling everything correctly by not reporting the disability payment on your return!
This is a really helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar SEHI deduction issue as an S-Corp owner. Just to clarify - when you manually entered the APTC repayment amount in the S Corp Health Insurance Premiums field, did you enter the full APTC repayment amount, or did you have to calculate some percentage of it? I'm trying to figure out if the entire APTC repayment becomes eligible for SEHI deduction, or if there's additional calculation needed based on the number of months covered or income levels. My APTC repayment was about $1,800 but I want to make sure I'm not claiming more SEHI deduction than I'm actually entitled to. Also, for anyone who's been through an audit - do you know if the IRS typically scrutinizes SEHI deductions heavily when they're manually entered like this instead of being automatically calculated by the software?
Great question about the APTC repayment calculation! You typically can't just use the full APTC repayment amount as your SEHI deduction - there are some important limitations to consider. The SEHI deduction is capped at the lesser of: (1) the actual premiums you paid, or (2) your net self-employment income. So if your APTC repayment was $1,800, you need to make sure you actually paid at least that much in health insurance premiums during the tax year, and that your S-Corp income supports that deduction amount. Also, the SEHI deduction is calculated on a monthly basis - you can only deduct premiums for months when you weren't eligible for employer-sponsored coverage (including coverage through a spouse's employer). So you might need to prorate the amount based on eligible months. Regarding audits, I haven't been through one personally, but from what I understand, the IRS does pay attention to SEHI deductions, especially when they're large relative to income or when there are APTC complications involved. The key is having good documentation - keep records of your actual premium payments, APTC statements, and calculations showing how you arrived at your deduction amount. As long as you can substantiate the deduction with proper documentation, you should be fine.
This is exactly the kind of issue that made me switch to working with a CPA for my S-Corp taxes. I spent countless hours trying to figure out the SEHI deduction with APTC complications across different software platforms and kept getting different results. What I learned from my CPA is that the interaction between APTC repayments and SEHI deductions is one of the most commonly mishandled calculations in DIY tax software. The issue isn't just with FreeTaxUSA - it's that the tax code requirements are complex and most software companies haven't invested in programming all the edge cases properly. My recommendation for S-Corp owners dealing with health insurance deductions: if your APTC repayment is significant (over $1,000), it might be worth having a tax professional review your return even if you prepare it yourself. The potential savings from getting the SEHI deduction right often outweigh the cost of a consultation, and you'll have peace of mind that everything is documented correctly for audit purposes. For those sticking with DIY, definitely keep detailed records of your health insurance premium payments, APTC statements, and any calculations you make. The IRS wants to see that you can substantiate every dollar of the SEHI deduction if questioned.
This is really valuable advice about getting professional help for complex SEHI situations. I'm curious though - when you worked with your CPA, did they use any specific software or tools to handle the APTC/SEHI calculations, or do they typically do these calculations manually? I'm trying to decide if it's worth investing in professional tax prep this year or if I can manage with the DIY approach plus some of the tools mentioned in this thread. My APTC repayment is around $1,200, so it falls right in that gray area where I'm not sure if professional help is cost-justified. Also, do you know if CPAs typically charge separately for consultations on specific issues like this, or do you have to pay for full return preparation to get their expertise on complex deductions?
Another thing to consider: if your dad itemizes deductions, he may need to reduce the theft loss by 10% of his AGI and $100. But if he can claim it as an investment theft loss on Schedule A (instead of a capital loss), he won't be limited to the $3,000 annual deduction limit for capital losses.
I don't think that's right anymore. The 10% AGI floor was for casualty losses. Ponzi schemes qualify for a different treatment. My father-in-law went through this in 2023 and was able to deduct the full amount without the AGI limitation.
Based on what everyone's shared here, it sounds like your dad has a solid case for claiming this as a theft loss. The key points I'm seeing are: 1. Make sure you have all the SEC documentation proving it was officially declared a Ponzi scheme 2. Use Form 4684 and possibly Form 8949 as mentioned by Ravi 3. The timing matters - claim it in the year the SEC declared it fraudulent, not when he invested 4. Revenue Procedure 2009-20 could be your best friend here - lets you deduct 95% of the loss right away Given that your dad is on a fixed income and this hit him so hard financially, I'd really recommend getting professional help to make sure you maximize the tax benefits. Whether that's a CPA experienced with investment fraud or one of those document analysis services people mentioned, the potential tax savings could be substantial. Also document EVERYTHING - bank statements, original investment paperwork, SEC filings, settlement details. The IRS will want a clear paper trail showing the original investment amount and what was recovered. Hope your dad can get some financial relief from this terrible situation!
This is such a comprehensive summary, thank you Zoe! I'm saving this comment to reference when I help my dad with his paperwork. One quick question - you mentioned Revenue Procedure 2009-20 lets you deduct 95% of the loss right away. Does that mean he can't claim the full $141,000 loss, or is the 95% rule just about timing (like not having to wait for final settlement amounts)? I want to make sure we're not leaving money on the table if there's a way to eventually claim the full amount.
As a newcomer to this community, I can't tell you how relieved I am to find this discussion! I've been in the exact same situation - had Medicaid coverage for about 4 months in 2024 after losing my employer insurance, and I've been absolutely stressed about those TurboTax warnings saying my return might get rejected without a 1095-A form. Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly reassuring. I had no idea that Medicaid automatically counts as "minimum essential coverage" and that those scary rejection warnings are just generic messages that don't apply to government coverage like Medicaid. The distinction between marketplace insurance (which needs 1095-A forms) and Medicaid (which doesn't) makes so much sense now. I was getting confused because I kept thinking I must be missing some crucial documentation, when really I just needed to select the right coverage type in the software. Thank you to everyone who shared their successful filing experiences and took the time to call state offices and the IRS for confirmation. It's such a relief to know that multiple people have gone through this exact situation without any issues. This community support has completely eliminated my tax filing anxiety!
Welcome to the community, Miguel! I'm so glad this discussion helped ease your anxiety - I completely understand that panic when tax software throws those scary warnings at you. It's especially stressful when you're already dealing with insurance transitions and job changes. Your situation sounds very similar to what many of us went through. I had Medicaid for about 5 months last year and went through the exact same roller coaster of confusion and worry. The key insight that helped me was realizing that TurboTax's warnings are designed to catch every possible scenario, so they err on the side of being overly cautious with generic messages. One thing that really helped me was writing down my coverage timeline before starting the tax software - like "January-March: employer insurance, April-August: Medicaid, September-December: new employer insurance." Having that visual made it much easier to answer the coverage questions accurately and confidently. It's amazing how something that seems so complicated at first (all those different insurance types and forms) becomes much clearer once you understand the basic distinction between marketplace insurance and government programs like Medicaid. Welcome to the community - don't hesitate to ask if you have other questions as you work through your return!
As someone new to this community, I just want to echo what everyone else has said about this being such a helpful discussion! I'm currently dealing with this exact situation - had Medicaid coverage for about 8 months in 2024 after a period of unemployment, and I've been getting those same scary TurboTax warnings about missing 1095-A forms. Reading through all these experiences has been incredibly reassuring. I had been frantically searching online for what forms I needed to submit, and kept finding conflicting information that made me more confused. It's so clear now that the 1095-A warnings are specifically for marketplace insurance with premium tax credits, which is completely different from Medicaid coverage. The tip about looking for "government-sponsored coverage" or "minimum essential coverage" options instead of marketplace insurance selections is exactly what I needed. I kept getting stuck in those marketplace questions because the software made it seem like that was the only path forward. Thank you to everyone who took the time to call their state Medicaid offices and the IRS to get official confirmation. As someone navigating these systems for the first time, having this real-world guidance from people who've actually been through it successfully makes all the difference. This community is amazing for breaking down these confusing government processes!
Welcome to the community, Zara! I'm a newcomer here too and just went through this exact same situation. It's such a relief to find other people who understand the confusion and stress of those TurboTax warnings when you have Medicaid coverage. I was in almost the identical situation - had Medicaid for about 7 months last year and kept panicking about whether I was missing crucial forms. This thread has been absolutely invaluable for understanding that Medicaid is treated completely differently from marketplace insurance in terms of tax reporting. One thing that really helped me beyond what others have mentioned is that when I called my state's Medicaid customer service line, they actually walked me through exactly what to expect during tax season. They confirmed that some people get confused and try to request 1095-A forms thinking they need them, but those forms literally don't exist for Medicaid recipients because there are no premium tax credits involved. It's amazing how much clearer everything becomes once you understand that distinction. The government programs like Medicaid are actually the simpler situation - you just report that you had qualifying coverage for those months, no complex calculations or form submissions required. Thanks for sharing your experience and adding to this helpful discussion!
Daniel White
I had this exact issue last year with a family trust. I received a distribution on February 28, 2022 that the trust counted toward their 2021 taxes using the 65-day rule. My tax preparer initially included it on my 2021 return, but after researching further, we amended to report it on my 2022 return instead, since that's when I actually received the money. The key document that clarified this for us was the explanation of the Section 663(b) election in IRS Publication 559. It specifies that the election only affects the trust's deduction timing, not the beneficiary's income recognition. The beneficiary includes the amount in income for the year in which it's received.
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Nolan Carter
ā¢Did you face any issues with the amendment? I'm in a similar situation where I reported a trust distribution on last year's return, but now I think it should have been on this year's return since I received it in January. I'm worried about penalties if I amend.
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Oliver Schulz
ā¢I didn't face any penalties for the amendment since I was correcting the reporting to match the proper tax treatment. The IRS generally doesn't penalize taxpayers for good faith efforts to report income correctly, especially when the error was due to confusion about complex trust rules like the 65-day election. In your case, if you received the distribution in January but reported it on the previous year's return, you should definitely amend. The key is to file the amendment as soon as you realize the error. Include a brief explanation with your amended return about the Section 663(b) election timing issue. My tax preparer also recommended keeping documentation showing when I actually received the distribution (bank records, etc.) in case there were ever questions. The amendment process was straightforward - we filed a 1040X for the year I incorrectly reported the income (removing it) and then included it properly on the correct year's return. No penalties, just a small refund for the year I over-reported income.
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Nia Davis
As someone who has dealt with multiple trust distributions over the years, I can confirm that the beneficiary reporting follows actual receipt date, not the trust's election year. However, I want to add an important practical consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet. Make sure to coordinate with your trust administrator about the timing of K-1 preparation. In my experience, when trusts use the 65-day election, there can be delays in getting the K-1 because the trustee needs to finalize both the current year distributions and any 65-day election distributions before completing the tax return. I've found it helpful to request from the trust administrator a preliminary distribution summary showing what distributions were made when, and whether any 65-day elections will be used. This helps me plan my tax filing timeline and avoid surprises when the K-1 arrives. The character of the income (ordinary vs. capital gains) will flow through to you regardless of the timing election the trust makes. One last tip: keep detailed records of when you actually received each distribution, including bank deposit dates. This documentation has been invaluable when working with my tax preparer to ensure everything is reported correctly.
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Javier Garcia
ā¢This is excellent practical advice! I wish I had known about requesting a preliminary distribution summary before filing my taxes. I ended up having to file an extension because the K-1 was delayed due to exactly what you described - the trust had to sort out both regular distributions and a 65-day election. One question though: when you say to keep records of bank deposit dates, does it matter if there's a delay between when the trust issues the distribution and when it actually hits your bank account? For example, if the trust cuts a check on February 10th but I don't deposit it until February 20th, which date matters for tax reporting purposes?
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