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Can I prepay 2024 or future property taxes to take as deductions on my 2023 tax return?

I got into a heated debate with my neighbor last night about tax planning strategies, and I'm hoping someone can clear this up for us. We both own homes we've lived in for several years (so no confusion about new purchases or sales). My neighbor insists we can prepay our 2024 property taxes now and deduct them on our 2023 tax returns. I disagreed, saying you can only deduct taxes for the year they're actually imposed, not just when you decide to pay them early. But honestly, if I'm wrong, that would be great news for my tax situation! My neighbor made similar claims about prepaying mortgage interest, but I found this directly from the IRS website: >Prepaid interest. If you pay interest in advance for a period that goes beyond the end of the tax year, you must spread this interest over the tax years to which it applies. Generally, you can deduct in each year only the interest that qualifies as home mortgage interest for that year. An exception (discussed later) applies to points. But I can't find anything similarly clear from the IRS about property taxes. With all the changes to standard deductions and itemized deductions, this could significantly impact my tax planning, so I want to make sure I understand the rules. I've read so many conflicting articles online - some say you can prepay, others say you can't, and some say you can only prepay the next installment (like the first quarter of next year). It's frustrating! I've left a message with my accountant, but I'd love to hear what others know about this. Even tax professionals sometimes give different answers, and this seems like something many homeowners would want to know about. Thanks for any insights!

Natalie Adams

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As a government employee who has worked with tax policy implementation, I can confirm what several people have mentioned about the assessment requirement. The key distinction is between when a tax is legally imposed versus when you choose to pay it. The IRS has been pretty clear since the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that prepaying future tax years doesn't accelerate the deduction. You can only deduct property taxes in the year they become a legal obligation - meaning the taxing authority has completed their assessment process and determined what you actually owe. What gets confusing is that different jurisdictions have different processes. Some counties assess quarterly, others annually. Some send "estimated" bills that later get finalized, while others send final assessments upfront. The timing of when YOU can deduct depends on when THEY complete their official assessment. The practical advice about calling your county assessor is spot-on. They can tell you exactly when taxes are considered "assessed" in your jurisdiction. Don't rely on when bills are mailed - ask specifically about when the assessment becomes legally binding. And yes, definitely check the SALT cap first! With the $10,000 limit, many homeowners hit that ceiling regardless of timing strategies. Combined with the higher standard deduction, fewer people benefit from itemizing these days anyway.

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Freya Pedersen

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Thank you so much for this authoritative clarification! It's really helpful to hear from someone with direct experience in tax policy implementation. Your explanation about the legal obligation versus payment timing distinction makes perfect sense and clears up a lot of the confusion I've been having. I'm definitely going to call my county assessor's office now - several people have mentioned this, and it sounds like the most reliable way to get jurisdiction-specific information. The point about not relying on when bills are mailed is particularly useful since I've been assuming the mailing date was what mattered. Your reminder about checking the SALT cap first is also well-taken. I realize I've been putting the cart before the horse by diving into complex timing strategies without first determining if they'd even benefit me. With property taxes, state income taxes, and local taxes combined, I suspect I'm already hitting that $10k limit anyway. This whole thread has been incredibly educational - from the technical assessment requirements to the practical tools people have shared. It's a great example of how community knowledge can help navigate these complex tax situations!

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Nia Harris

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This has been such an informative discussion! As someone who's been dealing with this exact confusion, I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and expertise. What strikes me most is how much the rules vary by jurisdiction - it seems like the key is understanding your specific county's assessment process rather than trying to apply general rules. The distinction between "estimated" and "assessed" taxes appears to be crucial, and it's clearly something that trips up a lot of homeowners. I'm also grateful for the reality check about the SALT cap and standard deduction. It's easy to get caught up in optimization strategies without first checking if they'll actually provide any benefit. For many of us, especially in higher-tax states, these timing strategies may not matter at all under current tax law. The various tools and services mentioned here (taxr.ai for document analysis, Claimyr for reaching the IRS) sound like they could save a lot of time and confusion. It's frustrating that such basic tax questions can be so difficult to get answered through normal channels. I think the best takeaway is: 1) Call your county assessor to understand their specific assessment timeline, 2) Check if you'll hit the SALT cap anyway, 3) Verify you'll exceed the standard deduction threshold, and 4) Only then worry about prepayment timing strategies. Thanks to everyone who contributed their knowledge - this kind of community sharing is invaluable for navigating our complex tax system!

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Giovanni Greco

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone new to homeownership, I had no idea the property tax deduction rules were this complex. I was actually planning to prepay my 2024 property taxes this December thinking it would help with my 2023 return, but now I understand I need to check if they've actually been assessed first. The point about calling the county assessor directly is brilliant - I never would have thought to do that. It makes so much more sense to get the information straight from the source rather than trying to decipher confusing tax documents or rely on general online advice. I'm also glad people mentioned the SALT cap because I'm in a high-tax area and probably need to calculate whether I'll hit that $10k limit anyway. It would be silly to spend time on timing strategies that won't actually reduce my tax bill! One question though - for those who mentioned using taxr.ai or similar tools, do you think they're worth it for someone with a fairly straightforward tax situation (single property, W-2 income, standard mortgage)? Or is it mainly helpful for more complex scenarios? Thanks again to everyone for sharing their knowledge - this community is amazing for getting real-world tax advice!

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Fidel Carson

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Does anyone know if the Schedule C requirements are different if you're selling primarily vintage or antique items on eBay? I'm selling my grandmother's old collection and not sure if this counts as a business or just personal sales. My total is around $5,200 for the year.

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Ayla Kumar

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It actually depends on whether you're selling these items at a profit and how frequently you're selling. The IRS generally considers if you're engaged in an activity with the intent to make a profit - if you're regularly selling items to make money (not just occasionally clearing out personal belongings), they'd likely see this as a business requiring Schedule C. Since you've sold over $5,000 worth, you'll probably receive a 1099-K from eBay anyway (the threshold is now $5,000 for 2025 tax year), which means the IRS will be expecting to see this income reported somewhere on your return.

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Fidel Carson

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Thank you so much for this explanation. I've been selling pretty consistently throughout the year, about 3-4 items per week, and definitely making a profit on most pieces. I think based on what you're saying this would count as a business activity, especially since I'm going to get a 1099-K. I'll go ahead and prepare Schedule C. Really appreciate the help!

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Isaiah Sanders

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Super late to this thread but just wanted to add that if you're filing Schedule C for the first time, don't forget about self-employment tax! I got a nasty surprise my first year selling on eBay when I had to pay an extra 15.3% on my net profit. Set aside more than you think you need for taxes.

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Clay blendedgen

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Omg thank you for mentioning this! I had no idea about the self-employment tax. Is that on top of regular income tax? Do I need to be making quarterly payments or something? This is getting complicated fast...

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Andrew Pinnock

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Yes, self-employment tax is in addition to regular income tax! It's basically the Social Security and Medicare taxes that would normally be split between you and an employer, but since you're self-employed, you pay both halves (15.3% total - 12.4% for Social Security + 2.9% for Medicare). If you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes for the year, you're supposed to make quarterly estimated payments to avoid penalties. The deadlines are usually January 15, April 15, June 15, and September 15. Since this is your first year, you might be okay for this year, but definitely plan ahead for next year. You can use Form 1040-ES to calculate your quarterly payments. The good news is you can deduct half of your self-employment tax as an adjustment to income, so it's not quite as bad as it initially seems!

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Looking at all these responses, it sounds like you have three solid options to compare: staying on the domestic partner plan with the tax hit, getting your own ACA plan with unemployment subsidies, or considering marriage if that was already in your future plans. From a purely financial perspective, I'd strongly recommend getting actual quotes for an ACA plan before deciding. Since you just lost your job, your projected 2024 income might qualify you for substantial subsidies that could make individual coverage much cheaper than the ~$500+ monthly tax hit you'd face on your fiancรฉe's plan. Here's what I'd do in your shoes: 1) Get that detailed breakdown from HR that Camila mentioned to make sure their $1,668 calculation is correct, 2) Get ACA quotes on healthcare.gov using your projected annual income including any unemployment benefits, and 3) Calculate the real after-tax cost of the domestic partner option using your fiancรฉe's actual marginal tax rate plus FICA. The marriage route is definitely the cleanest solution tax-wise if you were planning to get married anyway - employer health benefits for spouses are completely tax-free. But if you weren't ready for that step, don't let health insurance be the only reason to rush it. Whatever you choose, make sure to act quickly since you mentioned your current coverage ends soon. Both ACA enrollment and adding you to your fiancรฉe's plan will take some processing time.

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Clarissa Flair

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I needed to see! You've laid out all three options really clearly. I think you're absolutely right about getting actual numbers before making any decisions - I've been trying to estimate costs in my head but haven't done the real calculations. The point about acting quickly is definitely weighing on me. My coverage ends in less than two weeks, so I need to move fast on whichever option I choose. I'm going to call my fiancรฉe's HR department tomorrow to get that detailed breakdown of the $1,668 calculation, and then spend this weekend getting ACA quotes based on my projected income for the rest of 2024. The marriage option is interesting because we were actually talking about a small ceremony later this year anyway, but I don't want to rush such an important decision just for health insurance. Though if the tax savings are really that significant, it might be worth having a serious conversation about timeline. Thanks for the practical action steps - having a clear plan makes this feel much more manageable!

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Vincent Bimbach

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I've been following this thread and wanted to share some additional considerations that might help with your decision. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential impact on your fiancรฉe's other tax benefits if her income increases by $1,668 monthly due to the imputed income. That extra $20,000+ in annual income could potentially push her into a higher tax bracket or affect eligibility for certain deductions and credits. For example, if she's close to income thresholds for student loan interest deduction, IRA contribution limits, or other phase-outs, this could create additional hidden costs beyond just the direct tax on the imputed income. Also, regarding the ACA option - make sure to factor in the potential differences in coverage quality. Employer plans often have better networks and lower deductibles compared to marketplace plans, even with subsidies. You might save money on premiums but end up paying more out-of-pocket for actual care. One more timing consideration: if you do decide on the domestic partner route, ask HR if there's any flexibility on the start date. Sometimes you can delay the coverage start by a few days to align with when your current coverage ends, which might save you from paying for overlapping coverage or having a gap. The documentation point that Malik made is really important too - I'd also suggest keeping records of any communications with HR about how they calculated the fair market value, just in case you need to justify it to the IRS later.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Maria, I went through something very similar last year when I had to withdraw $6,000 from my Roth for an emergency car repair. The good news is it's much more straightforward than it initially seems! A few practical tips from my experience: First, when you contact your brokerage to make the withdrawal, specifically tell them you want to withdraw "contributions only" - while technically all withdrawals come from contributions first anyway, having this documented in their records can be helpful later. Second, ask them to email you a confirmation of the withdrawal details for your records. When tax time comes, you'll get that 1099-R form that shows the total withdrawal amount. Don't panic when you see it - it will likely show the full amount as a "distribution" without specifying it's penalty-free contributions. That's totally normal. Form 8606 Part III is where you tell the IRS the real story. One thing I wish I had known: keep a simple spreadsheet or document tracking your total Roth contributions by year. It makes filling out Form 8606 so much easier. I had to dig through three years of tax returns to reconstruct my contribution history, which was stressful during an already stressful time. TurboTax walked me through the whole process pretty smoothly once I had all my paperwork together. You've got this!

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Sean Murphy

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This is such great practical advice, Yuki! I'm curious about your suggestion to keep a spreadsheet of contributions by year - do you think that's necessary if someone is using tax software like TurboTax that should be tracking this information? I've been relying on TurboTax to handle my Roth contribution records, but now I'm wondering if I should be keeping my own separate tracking system. Also, when you told your brokerage you wanted to withdraw "contributions only," did they actually note that somewhere specific in your account, or was it just verbal documentation?

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Demi Lagos

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Great question Sean! I definitely recommend keeping your own spreadsheet even if you use TurboTax. While TurboTax does track contributions year to year, having your own backup has saved me twice - once when I accidentally deleted my TurboTax account data during a computer crash, and another time when I needed to reference my contribution history quickly without opening the software. My spreadsheet is super simple: just columns for year, contribution amount, and any notes (like "backdoor Roth conversion" if applicable). I update it every January after I make my contribution. As for the brokerage notation - when I called Fidelity, the rep actually put a note in my account activity log that said "withdrawal request - contributions only per customer." It showed up in my online account history along with the transaction details. I took a screenshot of that note just in case I ever needed it for documentation. Not all brokerages might do this, but it's worth asking them to note your intent somewhere in their system. Having that paper trail made me feel much more confident when filing my taxes.

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Yara Sayegh

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Maria, I completely understand your stress about this situation! I've been through a similar withdrawal process myself and want to reassure you that withdrawing Roth contributions is actually one of the more straightforward tax situations, even though it can feel overwhelming at first. Since you're only withdrawing $7,500 from your $18,000 in contributions, you're well within safe territory - no taxes, no penalties. The key thing to remember is that your brokerage's 1099-R will just show the withdrawal amount without distinguishing contributions from earnings, so you'll need Form 8606 Part III to tell the IRS this was a contribution withdrawal. For documentation, I'd suggest creating a simple folder (physical or digital) with: your last 3 years of tax returns showing your Roth contributions, any year-end brokerage statements, and the 1099-R you'll receive for this withdrawal. This gives you a complete paper trail if you ever need it. One practical tip: when you call your brokerage to initiate the withdrawal, ask them to note in your account that you're specifically requesting a "contribution withdrawal." While all withdrawals technically come from contributions first anyway, having this documented can provide extra peace of mind. You're making the right choice by only touching contributions and leaving your earnings to continue growing. The paperwork might seem intimidating, but TurboTax should handle most of the heavy lifting once you have your 1099-R in hand. You've got this!

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Yuki Tanaka

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This is really solid advice, Yara! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now - need to withdraw about $4,000 from my Roth for an unexpected job loss situation. One thing I'm wondering about is timing - does it matter if I make the withdrawal near the end of the tax year versus earlier in the year? Like, will it affect how I report it on my taxes if I withdraw in December 2025 versus January 2025? Also, you mentioned asking the brokerage to note it's a "contribution withdrawal" - have you found that all major brokerages (Vanguard, Schwab, etc.) are familiar with this type of request, or do some of them seem confused about the distinction?

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Elin Robinson

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I really appreciate everyone's detailed responses here - this has been incredibly helpful in thinking through the implications I hadn't fully considered. The consensus is pretty clear that mixing business and personal funds, even with good intentions, creates way more problems than it's worth. After reading through all the advice, I think I'm going to explore a few options: 1. The Treasury bills suggestion sounds really promising at 4.5-4.8% - that's actually better than the personal CDs I was eyeing, and it keeps everything properly in the business realm. 2. I'll also look into some of the credit unions mentioned for business money market accounts. The flexibility of not being locked into a CD term might actually be better for our situation anyway, especially if we need the funds sooner than expected for that office expansion. 3. I'll definitely avoid the temptation to chase those personal CD rates. The potential audit flags, accounting complications, and corporate veil issues just aren't worth the marginal rate difference. Thanks for saving me from what could have been a costly mistake! Sometimes the "clever" solution isn't actually the smart solution. Better to keep things clean and compliant from the start.

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Hugo Kass

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Elin, you're making the right call by prioritizing compliance over chasing rates! As someone new to this community, I've been learning a lot from reading through discussions like this. The Treasury bills option really does seem like the sweet spot - better rates than most personal CDs while keeping everything properly separated for business purposes. One thing I'd add is that this whole thread is a great reminder of why it's worth investing time in these community discussions before making financial decisions. The collective wisdom here probably saved you from months of headaches down the road. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's helping newcomers like me avoid similar pitfalls!

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Lucas Bey

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As a newcomer to this community, I've been following this discussion with great interest since I'm facing a similar situation with my consulting business. The collective advice here has been incredibly valuable - it's clear that keeping business and personal finances completely separate is non-negotiable, even when those personal CD rates look tempting. What really stands out to me is how many different compliance and practical issues can arise from what seems like a simple financial decision. The points about potential audit flags, corporate veil piercing, and accounting complications really drive home why the "clever" approach often isn't the smart approach. I'm particularly intrigued by the Treasury bills suggestion - 4.5-4.8% for business funds while maintaining complete compliance sounds like the ideal solution. For those who've gone this route, are there any gotchas with TreasuryDirect for business accounts that newcomers should be aware of? Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here. This is exactly the kind of practical, real-world guidance that makes community forums so valuable for small business owners trying to navigate these decisions responsibly.

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