This happened to a relative of mine in 2023. The IRS actually has a specific procedure for this. If you google "IRS erroneous refund procedures" you'll find their official guidance. Main thing is documenting everything and not spending the money. Is there any chance someone could have filed a tax return using your personal info? Might be worth checking your credit report just to make sure there's no other funny business going on. Identity theft with tax refunds has been increasing lately.

Actually, it's totally possible for someone to use your bank account info with a different SSN - this is more common than you'd think. Tax scammers sometimes get banking information through data breaches or phishing schemes, then file fraudulent returns using stolen SSNs but legitimate bank accounts for the refunds. The fact that there are two separate deposits ($7,250 and $1,750) makes me think this could be two different fraudulent returns rather than just a simple IRS mistake. Most legitimate refunds would come as one deposit, not split amounts like this. When you call the IRS, make sure to ask them specifically if any returns have been filed using your banking information but different SSNs. They can check this and will be able to tell you if this is fraud-related rather than just an administrative error. If it is fraud, they'll need to flag your account and potentially investigate how your banking information was compromised. Also consider changing your bank account numbers just to be safe. Better to deal with the hassle of updating your direct deposit info than risk this happening again.

Quick question for anyone who's dealt with this - if I already provided my SSN to Venmo but STILL got hit with backup withholding, what went wrong? Do I need to contact them specifically about this?

I went through something very similar with Venmo last year! The key thing to understand is that backup withholding isn't necessarily a bad thing - it's just the IRS making sure they get their cut upfront when tax info is missing. Since this was a legitimate loan repayment, you'll definitely get that 24% back. Make sure you keep records of the original loan (texts, emails, bank records showing the initial $2,700 going out) in case the IRS ever questions it. Also, definitely update your tax information with Venmo right away. You can do this in your account settings under "Tax Information" - it'll prevent this headache from happening again. One thing that caught me off guard was that the 1099-K might show up as "business income" in some tax software, so you'll need to make sure you're categorizing it correctly as a non-taxable personal transaction. The backup withholding credit will show up separately and should give you a nice refund boost since you won't actually owe taxes on the repayment amount.

I went through this exact same confusion last year! The key thing that helped me understand it was thinking about it from the IRS perspective - they want to see the full economic activity of your business, not just what hits your bank account after third parties take their cuts. So yes, report the gross amount customers pay as income, then deduct PayPal fees as a business expense. This is actually beneficial for you because it gives you a larger deduction and more accurately reflects your business activity. One practical tip: PayPal's monthly statements make this pretty easy to track. They show both your gross sales and total fees for each month, so you don't have to calculate transaction by transaction. I just download the monthly summaries and use those numbers for my tax prep. Also worth noting - if you're using PayPal Goods & Services, those fees are definitely deductible business expenses. But if you ever use Friends & Family for business (which you shouldn't), those transactions get murkier from a tax perspective since that's technically not a business payment method.

Great question! I had the same confusion when I started my business. You definitely want to report the FULL amount customers pay as income and deduct the PayPal fees separately as business expenses on Schedule C. Here's why this matters: If you only report the net amount, you're essentially letting PayPal reduce your income without getting the tax benefit of those fees as deductions. By reporting gross income and deducting fees, you get the full business expense deduction you're entitled to. Also, keep in mind that if you receive a 1099-K from PayPal (which reports the gross amounts to the IRS), your tax return needs to match what they've already told the IRS you received. If you only report the net amounts, there will be a discrepancy that could trigger questions. The fees typically go under "Commissions and fees" or "Payment processing fees" on your Schedule C. Make sure to keep good records - I save my PayPal monthly statements which clearly show both gross receipts and total fees charged. This makes tax prep much easier and gives you solid documentation if the IRS ever has questions. One last tip: set up a separate PayPal account just for business if you haven't already. Mixing personal and business transactions makes everything more complicated come tax time!

Is there a time limit on these corporate write-offs? Like could Warner Bros claim the loss now for the tax benefit, but then release the movie in a few years? Or once they claim it as a loss, are they permanently prevented from ever making money from it?

This is such a fascinating example of how corporate tax strategy works at scale! As someone who's dealt with business losses on a much smaller level, I can see the logic even though the numbers are mind-boggling. What really strikes me is how this illustrates the difference between accounting loss and economic loss. Warner Bros already spent the $90 million - that money is gone regardless. The question becomes: can they minimize the total financial impact through tax strategy? If the write-off saves them $19+ million in taxes, and they genuinely believe the movie won't generate more than that in net revenue (after marketing costs, potential brand damage, etc.), then mathematically it makes sense. It's the same principle that applies to any business loss deduction, just with way more zeros. When I had to write off some equipment that didn't work out for my consulting business, I was essentially doing the same thing - reducing my taxable income by the amount of the loss to minimize the overall financial impact. The part that's hardest to wrap my head around is the permanence of it. Once they claim that loss, they're essentially burning the bridge to ever monetizing that content. That's a level of financial commitment that shows how confident they are in their analysis.

I'm dealing with this exact situation right now - starting a new job next month and I've already hit the SS limit at my current employer. This thread has been incredibly helpful! Based on what everyone's shared, it sounds like the W-4 adjustment strategy is the most practical approach. I'm planning to calculate my expected SS overpayment and adjust my federal withholding accordingly, similar to what Miles and Connor described. One question I have - for those who successfully made W-4 adjustments, did you explain the situation to your new employer's HR/payroll team when you submitted the form? I'm wondering if providing context might help them understand why I'm claiming additional allowances, or if it's better to just submit the adjusted W-4 without explanation to avoid any confusion or pushback. Also, has anyone had experience with how this affects state tax withholding? I'm moving from one state to another with my job change, so I'm trying to figure out if I need to make any adjustments there too. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this is such a frustrating situation but at least now I have a game plan!

This is such a helpful thread! I'm actually a tax preparer and see this situation come up frequently with clients who switch jobs mid-year. Just wanted to add a few additional points that might be useful: 1) When you do get your W-2s next year, make sure both employers correctly report your Social Security wages and taxes withheld. I've seen cases where there were reporting errors that complicated the refund process. 2) If you're doing the W-4 adjustment strategy, keep detailed records of your calculations and reasoning. If you ever get questioned by the IRS about your withholding, having documentation showing you were trying to offset legitimate overwithholding will be helpful. 3) For those asking about state taxes - most states don't have Social Security taxes, but if you're moving between states, you might have other withholding considerations like different state income tax rates or reciprocity agreements. The W-4 adjustment approach really is the most practical solution available under current tax law. Just remember that the 2025 W-4 form is different from previous years, so make sure you're using the current version and following the updated instructions. One last tip: consider doing a mid-year tax projection in November or December to make sure your withholding adjustments are on track. Better to make a small correction then than be surprised at tax time!