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Ivanna St. Pierre

Can I claim Dependent Care FSA or Tax Credit for overseas childcare programs?

I'm trying to figure out a tax situation for my family and would appreciate any insights. My daughter has been attending a daycare program in Thailand where my parents live (they help look after her). We're also considering enrolling her in this educational academy there next summer. As a US citizen currently working in the States, am I eligible to claim these international childcare expenses through my Dependent Care FSA or the Dependent Care Tax Credit? The major issue I'm running into is that these overseas providers don't have an EIN or SSN which seems to be required for the tax credit documentation. Has anyone dealt with international childcare and these tax benefits before? Is there any workaround for the EIN/SSN requirement for foreign providers? Any advice would be incredibly helpful!

Elin Robinson

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The IRS does allow Dependent Care FSA and Dependent Care Tax Credit for qualifying childcare expenses regardless of where they occur, but there are specific requirements you need to meet. For foreign care providers without an EIN or SSN, you'll need to write "FOREIGN" in the space where you'd normally enter the provider's taxpayer identification number on Form 2441. You must still provide the complete name and address of the care provider. Make sure you have documentation of all payments made, as you'll need proof if audited. Keep in mind that the child must be your qualifying dependent under age 13, and the care must be necessary for you (and your spouse if filing jointly) to work or look for work. Educational programs that are primarily for education rather than care might not qualify - the primary purpose needs to be custodial care that allows you to work.

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Thank you so much! I had no idea about the "FOREIGN" option. My daughter is 4 years old and the care is definitely so I can work full-time. Does this apply equally to both the Dependent Care FSA and the tax credit? Also, would a summer program that's partly educational but also provides full-day supervision still qualify since the main reason we're using it is for childcare while I work?

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Elin Robinson

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Yes, the "FOREIGN" designation works for both the Dependent Care FSA and the Dependent Care Tax Credit documentation. They have similar qualifying expense rules, though remember you can't double-dip - the same expenses can't be used for both programs. For summer programs that are partly educational, they can still qualify if the primary purpose is to provide care while you work. The IRS generally allows expenses for summer day camps (even specialized ones like sports or arts camps) but not overnight camps. As long as the program provides supervision that enables you to work, and isn't primarily for educational purposes, it should qualify. The key test is whether the program is enabling you to work by providing necessary childcare.

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Beth Ford

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Did it help with the language barrier too? My kids are in a Korean daycare when they visit grandparents and all the receipts are in Korean. I'm worried about submitting foreign language documents to the IRS.

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Isaiah Cross

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Just wanted to add a few important details about the Dependent Care FSA vs the Tax Credit when using foreign providers: 1. The Dependent Care FSA has a contribution limit of $5,000 for 2025 if you're married filing jointly ($2,500 if married filing separately) 2. The Dependent Care Tax Credit has different percentage rates based on your AGI, with a max of $3,000 of expenses for one child or $6,000 for two or more In some cases, you might be better off using the tax credit instead of the FSA, especially if your income is lower or you have multiple children in care internationally.

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Kiara Greene

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Do you know if you can split between the two? Like use $5000 in the FSA and then claim additional expenses with the tax credit? My twins' care in Spain costs way more than either limit covers.

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Isaiah Cross

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Yes, you can potentially use both, but not for the same expenses. If your total qualifying expenses exceed your FSA contribution, you can use the tax credit for the additional amount, up to the credit's limit. For example, if you have $7,500 in qualifying expenses for your twins in Spain, you could use $5,000 for your Dependent Care FSA and then claim the tax credit on the remaining $2,500 (since the limit is $6,000 for two children). Just make sure to subtract your FSA reimbursements from your total expenses when calculating the tax credit on Form 2441. The IRS specifically designed the form to prevent "double-dipping" while allowing you to maximize your benefits when expenses exceed FSA limits.

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Evelyn Kelly

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Has anyone run into currency conversion issues? My kid goes to daycare in Canada part of the year and I'm confused about how to report expenses that are paid in Canadian dollars. Do I convert based on the exchange rate for each payment date or use an average for the year?

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Paloma Clark

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You're supposed to use the exchange rate from the date each payment was made. I use the Treasury Dept's official exchange rates for my German childcare expenses. Makes it a bit of a pain to calculate but keeps everything accurate for the IRS.

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Sean O'Connor

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For currency conversion, the IRS requires you to use the exchange rate from the actual date of each payment, not an annual average. You can find the official rates on the Treasury Department's website or use IRS-accepted sources like OANDA for historical rates. I'd recommend keeping a simple spreadsheet with the payment date, CAD amount, exchange rate, and USD equivalent for each transaction. This documentation will be helpful if you ever need to provide backup during an audit. The extra bookkeeping is worth it to ensure you're compliant with IRS requirements for foreign expense reporting. Also make sure to save all your Canadian receipts and payment confirmations - having the original currency amounts clearly documented alongside your conversions shows the IRS you're being thorough and accurate with your reporting.

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Ruby Garcia

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This is really helpful advice about currency conversion! I'm dealing with a similar situation with childcare expenses in the UK. One question - do you know if there are any IRS guidelines about what constitutes an "acceptable" exchange rate source? I've been using XE.com for my conversions but want to make sure that would hold up if questioned. Also, for anyone else dealing with international childcare documentation, I learned the hard way that you should also keep copies of bank statements showing the actual currency conversion your bank used if you paid by card. Sometimes there's a slight difference between the "official" rate and what your bank charged, and the IRS wants to see the actual amount that left your account in USD.

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Hailey O'Leary

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Great question about exchange rate sources! The IRS doesn't specify exact sources but generally accepts "reasonable" exchange rates from reputable financial institutions or government sources. XE.com is widely used and should be fine, but I'd also recommend checking the Federal Reserve's H.10 foreign exchange rates or the Treasury's rates as backup documentation. You're absolutely right about keeping bank statements! I learned this the hard way too - there can be a significant difference between the "official" exchange rate and what your bank actually charged due to their conversion fees and timing. The IRS wants to see the actual USD amount that came out of your account, so your bank statements are crucial proof. One more tip for international childcare expenses: if you're paying regularly (like monthly tuition), consider setting up a simple tracking system at the beginning of each year. I use a spreadsheet with columns for payment date, foreign currency amount, exchange rate source, USD equivalent, and bank statement reference. It makes tax time so much easier when you have everything organized from the start rather than scrambling to reconstruct months of transactions later.

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Mateo Sanchez

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This spreadsheet approach is brilliant! I wish I'd thought of this before filing last year. I ended up spending hours trying to piece together exchange rates from old receipts and bank statements. Quick follow-up question - when you reference "bank statement reference" in your tracking system, do you just note the transaction date or do you include more specific details like the last 4 digits of the transaction number? I'm trying to set up something similar for my daughter's childcare in Australia and want to make sure I'm capturing enough detail for potential IRS documentation needs. Also, has anyone dealt with childcare providers who only accept cash payments? The daycare my daughter attends in the Philippines prefers cash, and I'm worried about having proper documentation without formal receipts or bank transaction records.

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