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Salim Nasir

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Just wanted to add that the timing of when all those K1s arrived matters too. If most came in late (which is common with complex partnerships), the accounting firm probably had to file extensions and do a lot of the work during their non-busy season. That's often billed at different rates. My firm charges 20-30% more for K1-heavy returns because they're unpredictable and often cause bottlenecks in our workflow. The 60-70 new K1s would definitely add setup time too.

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Sarah Ali

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As someone who's dealt with complex returns (though nowhere near your sister's level), I'd echo what others are saying - $19,500 for that complexity actually sounds quite reasonable. One thing I'd suggest is asking the firm for a breakdown of how they arrived at that fee. Most reputable firms should be able to show you time spent on different components - K1 processing, state return prep, review time, etc. This transparency helps you understand what you're paying for and can be useful for budgeting future years. Also, given the scale of her investments, your sister might want to consider working with the firm throughout the year for tax planning rather than just at filing time. With that income level and complexity, proactive planning could potentially save more in taxes than the additional advisory fees would cost. Many firms offer quarterly check-ins for clients with situations like this.

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StarStrider

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This is really helpful advice about asking for a breakdown! I never thought to request that level of detail from my tax preparer. Do most accounting firms provide this kind of transparency willingly, or do you typically have to specifically ask for it? I'm wondering if this is standard practice or something that only happens when clients push for it.

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Emma Swift

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of keeping your LLC's investment activities clearly documented and separate from any personal trading you might do. Even though both end up on your personal Schedule D for a disregarded entity, you'll want to maintain clear records showing which transactions were made through the LLC versus any personal accounts. This becomes especially important if you have both LLC and personal investment accounts with the same brokerage. I'd recommend using separate brokerages if possible, or at minimum keeping very detailed records that clearly identify the source of each transaction. If you ever get audited, the IRS will want to see that you maintained proper separation between your business and personal activities, even though they're taxed the same way. Also, since you mentioned your accountant disappeared, you might want to consider finding a new CPA before next year's tax season starts. Having professional guidance becomes even more valuable as your LLC grows or if you start generating more complex investment income. The peace of mind is worth the cost, especially when dealing with business entity taxation rules that can change or have nuances you might miss filing on your own.

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Ravi Patel

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This is excellent advice about maintaining separation between LLC and personal investment activities! I learned this lesson when I had to reconstruct my records for an IRS inquiry a few years back. Even though everything ultimately flows to your personal return, the IRS still expects you to be able to clearly demonstrate which activities belonged to which "bucket." I'd also add that if you're planning to continue investing through your LLC, consider setting up a completely separate accounting system or at least dedicated spreadsheets to track the LLC's investment performance separately from any personal trading. This makes it much easier at tax time and provides the documentation trail you'd need if questions ever arise. Your point about finding a new CPA is spot-on too. While DIY tax software has gotten pretty good, having a professional who understands entity taxation can save you from costly mistakes and help with tax planning strategies you might not know about. The cost of a good accountant is usually far less than the potential penalties or missed opportunities from going it alone, especially as your business and investment activities become more complex.

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One additional consideration I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential impact on your LLC's operating agreement if you're doing significant investment activity. While the tax treatment for a disregarded entity is straightforward (everything flows to your personal return), you'll want to make sure your operating agreement properly addresses investment activities if that wasn't originally contemplated when you formed the LLC. Some operating agreements are written very narrowly and might not explicitly allow for investment activities beyond the LLC's primary business purpose. If you plan to continue trading through the LLC, it's worth having an attorney review your operating agreement to ensure it gives you the authority to engage in investment activities and that any liability protections you're seeking are properly structured. Also, depending on the volume and frequency of your trading, you might want to consider whether you need to register for any additional business licenses or comply with securities regulations in your state. Most casual investing doesn't trigger these requirements, but if you're doing substantial trading activity through a business entity, there could be additional compliance considerations beyond just the tax reporting we've been discussing. Better to address these structural issues now while your investment activity is relatively new rather than trying to fix them later if your trading becomes more substantial or complex!

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Amara Eze

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This is a really important point that I hadn't considered! I just reviewed my LLC operating agreement after reading your comment and realized it only mentions my consulting business activities - nothing about investments or securities trading. Since I've been doing some stock trading through the LLC this year, I'm now wondering if I need to amend the operating agreement to explicitly allow investment activities. Do you know if there are any risks to having investment activities that aren't specifically covered in the operating agreement? Could this potentially affect the liability protection that the LLC is supposed to provide? I'm definitely going to look into having an attorney review this, but I'm curious if anyone else has dealt with this situation. It seems like something that could easily be overlooked when you're just focused on getting the tax reporting right.

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Has anyone tried Drake Tax Software for S-Corps? My CPA uses it and suggested I might want to try the prosumer version for my small S-Corp.

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I use Drake for my tax preparation business and it's excellent for professionals, but their small business version is not as user-friendly as TurboTax or TaxAct for non-professionals. It's powerful but assumes a higher level of tax knowledge. If your CPA is willing to give you some guidance, it might work well since you'd be using the same platform they use. But if you're completely on your own, I'd stick with TaxAct which strikes a better balance between cost and usability for S-Corp 1120S forms.

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Dmitry Popov

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I've been filing S-Corp returns for my consulting business for about 3 years now and have tried most of the major software options. Here's what I wish someone had told me when I started: For your first year, I'd actually recommend starting with TurboTax Business despite the higher cost. Yes, it's more expensive, but the interview process is really thorough and educational. It explains WHY certain deductions apply to S-Corps and helps you understand the underlying concepts, not just fill out forms. Once you're comfortable with S-Corp tax concepts (probably by year 2 or 3), then switch to TaxAct to save money. I made that transition and it worked well because by then I understood what I was looking for. One critical tip regardless of software: make sure you're paying yourself a "reasonable salary" through payroll before taking distributions. This is the #1 mistake I see new S-Corp owners make, and it can trigger an audit. The software won't necessarily warn you about this ratio, so it's worth discussing with your tax advisor even if you're filing yourself. Also, keep detailed records of all business expenses throughout the year - don't wait until tax time to organize everything. Both TurboTax and TaxAct are only as good as the information you put into them.

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Liam McGuire

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the "reasonable salary" requirement you mentioned - is there a specific formula or percentage that the IRS looks for when comparing salary to distributions? I've heard conflicting information about whether it should be 60/40 split or based on industry standards. Also, do you have any recommendations for affordable payroll services that work well with S-Corps for someone just starting out?

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Ravi Patel

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I'm gonna go against the grain here... Just use FreeTaxUSA or Cash App Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax). Both handle investments including stock sales and dividends. FreeTaxUSA is free for federal and like $15 for state. Cash App Taxes is completely free for both federal and state. I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA two years ago when my taxes got more complicated with investments and rental property. Saved over $120 and the process was actually easier! TurboTax is just really good at making you think you need their expensive versions when you don't.

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Thanks for the alternative suggestions! I hadn't even heard of Cash App Taxes. Do they handle everything well with stock transactions? I made maybe 15-20 trades throughout the year.

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Ravi Patel

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Yes, Cash App Taxes handles stock transactions well! I had about 25 trades last year and it worked perfectly. The interface is clean and they support importing from most brokerages directly, so you don't have to manually enter each transaction. One thing to note is that Cash App Taxes might ask fewer "hand-holding" questions than TurboTax, which some people actually prefer. If you already understand the basics of what you need to report, it's faster and more straightforward. But if you want lots of guidance and explanations at each step, FreeTaxUSA might be a better middle ground - still much cheaper than TurboTax but with more explanations than Cash App Taxes.

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Rosie Harper

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As someone who's been through a similar transition from simple W-2 filing to dealing with investments, I'd recommend starting with the document analysis approach others mentioned. Understanding exactly what forms you'll need is crucial before choosing software. For your specific situation - multiple W-2s, stock sales, dividends, and retirement accounts - you're definitely looking at needing investment-capable software. The key distinction is that selling stocks requires Schedule D and Form 8949, which kicks you out of basic versions of any tax software. Your 403b contributions should already be reflected on your W-2 (look for box 12 with codes like D, E, F, G, or H), so that part is actually straightforward. The Roth IRA contributions typically don't need to be reported unless you qualify for the Saver's Credit, which at 19 you might depending on your income level. Between TurboTax Premier and the alternatives like FreeTaxUSA or Cash App Taxes, it really comes down to how much hand-holding you want. TurboTax is more expensive but walks you through everything step-by-step. The alternatives can save you $100+ and handle the same forms, but assume you're comfortable reading instructions and answering questions without as much guidance. Given this is your first year with investments, you might appreciate TurboTax's explanations this time around, then switch to a cheaper alternative next year once you understand the process better.

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This is really comprehensive advice! I'm leaning toward trying one of the free alternatives first since I'm pretty comfortable with technology and following instructions. If I get stuck, I can always switch to TurboTax Premier later in the season. One question though - you mentioned the Saver's Credit for Roth IRA contributions. Do you know roughly what the income threshold is for that? With 3 W-2s plus investment income, I'm not sure if I'd qualify but it would be nice to know if there's a potential credit I'm missing out on. Also, has anyone had experience importing brokerage data directly into these tax programs? My broker is Schwab and I'm hoping I don't have to manually enter all those trades!

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I handle payroll for a company that does relocation grossups and this is normal. Your W-2 will show the TOTAL - both the $15k you received plus the additional amount the company paid in taxes on your behalf. The full amount is taxable income. Check your last paystub of the year and look at the "YTD" column for federal withholding. It should be higher than normal because of the extra withholding for the relocation. If your company did the gross-up correctly, they would have withheld around 22% federal (supplimental rate) plus Medicare/SS taxes on the full grossed-up amount. If TurboTax is saying you owe more, it might be because your overall tax bracket is higher than 22% so you need to pay the difference.

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Thank you for this explanation! I just checked my last paystub of the year and you're absolutely right - the withholding is higher than I expected. I think I've been focusing too much on the W-2 number without considering that they already withheld the appropriate taxes. I'll double check the actual withholding amounts again and see if that explains the discrepancy. This is really helpful!

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As a newcomer to this community, I really appreciate all the detailed explanations here! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my employer offered a relocation package, but I haven't accepted the job yet. Reading through these comments, it sounds like the tax implications are pretty complex. For someone who hasn't gone through this before, would you recommend negotiating for the company to handle the relocation expenses directly with vendors instead of giving me a lump sum? Or does it not really matter since either way it ends up being taxable income? Also, are there any questions I should ask HR upfront to make sure I understand exactly how they calculate the gross-up and what will show up on my W-2? I'd rather avoid the confusion that several people here experienced!

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Welcome to the community! Great question as someone just starting this process. From what I've learned here, it doesn't really matter whether they pay vendors directly or give you a lump sum - both are taxable income under current tax law since the 2018 tax changes eliminated moving expense deductions for most people. Here are some key questions to ask HR upfront: 1. What tax rate do they use for the gross-up calculation? (Many use 22% supplemental rate) 2. Will they provide a breakdown showing the actual relocation amount vs. the gross-up amount? 3. Do they adjust the gross-up for your specific state tax situation? 4. Can they walk you through exactly what will appear on your W-2? The biggest tip from reading these experiences: keep detailed records of your paystubs, especially the one that shows the relocation payment. Make sure you can see both the gross amount added to wages AND the corresponding withholding increases. That way when tax time comes, you'll have everything you need to verify that the withholding was done correctly. Good luck with your decision!

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