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So I just opened my TurboTax to finish filing and it's showing I owe $29 for "underpayment penalty" from last year. I'm honestly frustrated because I PAID for TurboTax specifically so I wouldn't have to deal with this kind of nonsense! If their software messed up calculating what I should've paid, why is that suddenly my problem now? When I clicked on the explanation, it says something about quarterly payments not being made properly. I've NEVER filed quarterly taxes in my life! I've always done it once a year like a normal person. Why would I suddenly need to start doing quarterly payments? The explanation from TurboTax is super unhelpful too: "If you do not have a 2022 Form 2210 or Form 2210-F then you will need to see the instructions for Form 2210 line 8. Remember you can always let the IRS calculate the penalty for you so you don't have to do this." How am I supposed to "see instructions" for a form I don't even have? I've never received anything called a 2210 before. I know $29 isn't going to break the bank, but this feels like a principle thing. Why should I pay for tax software if it's going to mess up and then just shrug and make me pay more? Is there some setting I should've checked last year? Do I need to upgrade to one of their expensive packages to avoid this happening again next year?
So it's been about 3-4 years since I last filed my taxes. I don't earn a lot of income, so I probably didn't owe anything, just missed out on potential refunds. I'm wondering what's going to happen when I try to file my taxes this year? If I go somewhere like H&R Block, would they be able to help me figure out the last few years of unfiled returns? In the past, I've always just done everything myself using online tax software. The problem is I only have my W-2 from my most recent job, but don't have copies of my W-2s from the years I didn't file. Sorry if this sounds stupid - life has been really overwhelming lately. Thanks for any advice you can give!
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you check if you qualify for any tax credits for those years you didn't file, especially if you had a lower income. The Earned Income Tax Credit can be substantial if you qualify. You could be leaving a lot of money on the table beyond just your withholding refunds.
This is so important! My sister didn't file for 2 years and when she finally did, she got over $5k in EITC that she would've lost if she'd waited any longer.
Exactly! People often focus just on getting their withholding back, but the refundable credits can be even more significant. Besides the EITC, there's also the Additional Child Tax Credit if you have kids, American Opportunity Credit if you had education expenses, and several others depending on the tax years in question. The key thing to remember is that these credits have the same 3-year limit for claiming them. After that point, even if you would have qualified, that money is gone forever. That's why it's so crucial to get those past returns filed as soon as possible!
Don't beat yourself up about this - you're definitely not alone! I went through something similar a few years back and it felt overwhelming at first, but it's really not as complicated as it seems. One tip that helped me: when you're gathering your documents, also check if you made any estimated tax payments during those years (like if you did any freelance work or had other income). Those payments can add to your refund too, but they're easy to forget about. Also, if you're worried about the process, you might want to start with just one year to get comfortable with how it works before tackling all of them. Many people find that once they do the first return, the rest feel much more manageable. The important thing is you're taking action now. That's what matters most!
Finally saw movement on my transcript this morning with an 05 cycle code update! Been checking daily for weeks. No 846 code yet but hoping this means I'm getting closer. Anyone know how long after 05 updates till refund usually hits?
Your probably gonna see it next week or the week after. 05 usually means everything else is straight and their just finishing up. Unless you got other codes that need to clear first
Congrats on getting the 05 cycle! That's definitely progress. From what I've seen in this community, most people with 05 cycles see their 846 code within 2-3 weeks, but it really depends on if you have any other issues on your account. Check your transcript Friday mornings since that's when the weekly updates typically post. Fingers crossed you see that 846 soon! π€
So I jumped on the meme stock train last year and ended up selling at a loss through my Fidelity account. Now I'm trying to do my taxes using FreeTaxUSA and I'm confused about how to report these losses. I also received some dividend income during 2023. I'm looking at the forms in FreeTaxUSA and the closest thing I can find is the 1099-DIV section, but that doesn't seem right for reporting my stock losses. I'm wondering if I should be reporting this as a stock loss carryover? This is my first time dealing with investment losses on my tax return and I really don't want to mess this up. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
For anyone still struggling with this, I recorded a quick walkthrough of how to enter stock transactions in FreeTaxUSA: 1. Go to the Federal section 2. Click on Income 3. Scroll down to "Investments" 4. Select "Stocks, Bonds, etc. (Schedule D and Form 8949)" 5. Choose the correct Form 8949 type (usually Box A or B for most brokerage accounts) 6. Enter each transaction individually For meme stock losses specifically, make sure you're tracking your basis correctly. If you bought in multiple batches at different prices, each purchase needs to be tracked separately. Good luck to everyone dealing with their losing meme stocks! At least the tax deduction takes some of the sting out...
Great thread everyone! As someone who also got caught up in the meme stock craze, I can relate to the confusion about reporting these losses. One thing I'd add is to double-check that you're not accidentally mixing up short-term and long-term capital losses in FreeTaxUSA. Most meme stock trades were probably held for less than a year (short-term), so they should go in the short-term section of Schedule D. Short-term losses first offset short-term gains, then long-term gains, and finally up to $3,000 can be deducted against ordinary income. Also, keep good records of everything you enter - screenshot your completed forms before submitting. If you get audited later (unlikely but possible), you'll want to be able to show exactly how you calculated everything. The IRS loves documentation!
Hey everyone! So I'm totally new to filing taxes (first timer here) and I'm kinda confused about something. I'm using FreeTaxUSA to file and I only made about $2,652 last year from my part-time job at the coffee shop. The software is telling me I'm eligible for a "standard deduction" of $13,850? What exactly does that mean? Is that normal? It seems like a really big number compared to what I actually earned. Does this mean I get more money back or something? Sorry if this is super basic, but nobody ever taught me about taxes and I'm trying to figure this out on my own!
Just FYI, since your income is so low, you might not even be required to file taxes at all. But you should definitely still file because if you had ANY taxes withheld from your paychecks you'll get all of that back as a refund since you won't owe any taxes. Look at your W-2 form in box 2 - if there's any amount there, that's money you'll get back!
I checked my W-2 and there's $212 in Box 2! So that means I'll get all of that back? That would be amazing, I could really use that right now. And thanks for mentioning that I might not be required to file. I wasn't sure about that, but I figured I should do it anyway just to be safe. Plus learning how to do this stuff now will probably help me in the future.
Yes, you'll get that entire $212 back as a refund! Since your income is below the standard deduction, you don't owe any federal income tax, so everything that was withheld gets returned to you. You're making a smart move by filing even though you might not be required to. It's good practice, and getting that refund is definitely worth the effort. Plus, as you mentioned, it's a valuable learning experience that will make things easier in future years when your tax situation might become more complex.
Be careful with claiming the standard deduction if anyone can claim you as a dependent! If your parents are claiming you on their taxes, the rules are different. Are you a dependent on someone else's return?
Oh shoot, I didn't even think about that. My parents do claim me as a dependent since I'm still living at home and they provide more than half my support. Does that change things dramatically? FreeTaxUSA asked if I was a dependent and I selected yes, so I think it's calculating everything correctly, but now I'm worried.
Don't worry! If you told FreeTaxUSA that you're a dependent, it should be calculating everything correctly for you. When you're claimed as a dependent, your standard deduction is limited to the greater of $1,150 OR your earned income plus $400 (up to the regular standard deduction amount). Since you earned $2,652, your standard deduction as a dependent would be $3,052 ($2,652 + $400). You'll still get that $212 refund since your income is below even the dependent standard deduction amount, so you still won't owe any federal taxes!
Hattie Carson
I'm going through something similar and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I had a $47 underpayment penalty show up in TurboTax and was equally frustrated about paying for software that didn't prevent this. After reading everyone's advice, I'm definitely going to try calling the IRS about the first-time penalty abatement. My situation sounds exactly like @Nolan Carter's - just regular W-2 income, never had penalties before, and TurboTax never warned me this could happen. One thing I'm curious about - for those who successfully got the penalty removed, how long did it take for the IRS to actually process the abatement? I want to make sure I don't accidentally pay the penalty while waiting for their decision. Also, has anyone tried updating their W-4 withholding mid-year to prevent this from happening again? I'm wondering if I should increase my withholding now for 2025 or wait until I talk to the IRS agent.
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Emma Olsen
@Hattie Carson Great question about timing! When I got my first-time penalty abatement approved, the IRS agent told me right on the call that it was approved and gave me a confirmation number. She said the system would be updated within 2-3 business days, so there s'no risk of accidentally paying while waiting. For the W-4 adjustment, I d'definitely recommend doing it sooner rather than later! The IRS agent actually walked me through this too. You want to get more withheld from each paycheck starting now so you re'covered for the full year. If you wait until later in the year, you d'need even bigger withholding increases to make up for the missed months. The IRS has a withholding calculator on their website irs.gov (that) s'really helpful for figuring out exactly how much extra to withhold. I used it and increased my withholding by about $50 per paycheck, which should easily prevent this issue next year. Better safe than sorry!
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Evelyn Rivera
This whole thread has been a goldmine of information! I'm dealing with a $38 underpayment penalty from TurboTax and was ready to just pay it out of frustration, but now I'm definitely going to try the first-time penalty abatement route first. What really gets me is that I've been using TurboTax for 5 years and this is the first time this has happened. You'd think after all that data they have on my filing patterns, they could have given me some kind of heads up during last year's filing that I might be cutting it close on withholding. I'm also planning to use that IRS withholding calculator someone mentioned to adjust my W-4. Better to have them take a little extra each paycheck than deal with this surprise penalty nonsense again next year. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - especially about the Claimyr service for actually getting through to the IRS. Those hold times are absolutely brutal!
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Astrid BergstrΓΆm
@Evelyn Rivera I totally feel your frustration! Five years with TurboTax and then this surprise penalty hits - it s'so annoying when you feel like you re'doing everything right. I m'in a similar boat and after reading all these responses, I m'definitely going to try calling for the first-time penalty abatement too. The thing about TurboTax not warning us ahead of time really bothers me. Like, they know our income history and withholding patterns - seems like they could at least flag when someone might be at risk for underpayment. But I guess that s'not really their business model. I m'curious - did your withholding amount change significantly from previous years, or was it pretty much the same? Trying to figure out what triggered mine since I thought everything was consistent with prior years. Good luck with your IRS call!
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