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Micah Trail

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Does anyone use tax software instead of an accountant? I'm using TurboTax Business for my Schedule C and wonder if the subscription cost is handled the same way. Would I deduct my TurboTax subscription cost on this year's return or next year's?

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Nia Watson

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I use TaxAct for my business and rental properties. The subscription cost follows the same rule - deduct it in the year you pay for it. So if you bought TurboTax in April 2024 to file your 2023 taxes, that's a 2024 business expense (goes on next year's return).

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Great question! I went through this same confusion when I started my consulting business. The key principle everyone's mentioned is correct - you deduct tax prep fees in the year you actually pay them, regardless of which tax year the return covers. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet is to keep really good documentation of when you pay these fees. I create a simple spreadsheet each year tracking the date, amount, and what the payment covers (2023 tax prep, estimated payment penalties, etc.). This has been super helpful during tax time and gives me confidence I'm being consistent year over year. Also, if your accountant offers payment plans or lets you pay in installments, each payment gets deducted in the year you make it. So if you paid $400 in December 2023 and $450 in March 2024 for the same tax return, you'd split the deduction across those two tax years accordingly.

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This is really helpful advice about keeping detailed records! I'm curious about one scenario - what if you have a standing monthly retainer with your accountant that covers ongoing bookkeeping plus annual tax prep? Do you deduct the full monthly payments throughout the year, or do you need to somehow separate out the tax prep portion when it actually gets done?

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Amina Bah

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This is a really complex situation that depends heavily on which depreciation method you've been using! Since you mentioned tracking mileage meticulously, I'm curious - have you been using the standard mileage deduction or actual expenses (including depreciation) for your current vehicle? If you've been using standard mileage, your tax situation when selling will be quite different from what some others have described. The standard mileage rate includes a depreciation component (around 27 cents per mile in recent years), so your adjusted basis would be your original cost minus the total depreciation embedded in all those standard mileage deductions over 6 years. However, if you've been claiming actual depreciation and the car is fully depreciated as you mentioned, then yes - you're looking at significant depreciation recapture taxed as ordinary income when you sell. For the new $38,000 vehicle, switching to actual expenses could be beneficial since you'd be able to claim bonus depreciation or Section 179 expensing. Just remember that once you switch to actual expenses for a vehicle, you can't go back to standard mileage for that same car. Given the amounts involved here, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional before making the purchase. The timing of when you sell the old car versus buy the new one, plus which depreciation method you choose going forward, could save or cost you thousands in taxes.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive analysis I was looking for! I have been using the standard mileage deduction for all 6 years, so you're right that my situation is different from those who've been taking actual depreciation. Let me see if I understand this correctly - with standard mileage at roughly 27 cents depreciation per mile, and I've driven about 15,000 business miles per year for 6 years, that would be around $24,300 in total depreciation embedded in my standard mileage deductions. If I originally paid $32,000 for the car, my adjusted basis would be around $7,700, meaning my taxable gain on a $9,500 sale would only be about $1,800 rather than the full $9,500? That's a much more manageable tax hit! And switching to actual expenses for the new vehicle to capture that bonus depreciation sounds like it could be worth it, especially on a $38,000 purchase. I'm definitely going to consult with a tax professional before proceeding, but this gives me a much better framework for those discussions. Thanks for clarifying how the standard mileage method affects the calculation!

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Omar Farouk

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You're absolutely on the right track with your calculation! Yes, with standard mileage deduction over 6 years, your adjusted basis would be significantly higher than someone who fully depreciated their vehicle using actual expenses, which means a much smaller taxable gain. One additional consideration I'd mention - when you switch to actual expenses for your new vehicle, make sure you're prepared for the record-keeping requirements. You'll need to track not just mileage, but also maintenance, repairs, insurance, registration fees, and all other vehicle-related expenses. It's more work than standard mileage, but with a $38,000 vehicle and current bonus depreciation rules, the tax savings should make it worthwhile. Also, don't forget that your business use percentage (80% in your case) applies to all these deductions. So on that $38,000 vehicle, you'd be looking at bonus depreciation on about $30,400 of the purchase price, which could provide substantial first-year tax savings to offset your gain from the sale. The timing strategy others mentioned is spot-on too - selling early in the year and purchasing late in the year maximizes your depreciation deduction in the year of sale. Good luck with the upgrade!

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Nalani Liu

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This whole thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone new to business vehicle ownership, I'm amazed at how complex the tax implications can be. I'm actually in a similar situation as the original poster - I've been using my personal car for freelance work and tracking mileage using the standard deduction, but I'm thinking about buying a dedicated business vehicle soon. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like I should definitely consider using actual expenses from the start with a new vehicle to take advantage of bonus depreciation, especially if I'm buying something in the $30k+ range. One question though - for someone just starting out with actual expenses, are there any common mistakes to avoid? The record-keeping sounds intimidating, but the potential tax savings seem worth the extra effort. Also, is there a minimum business use percentage that makes actual expenses more beneficial than standard mileage?

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IRS holding my 2024 refund until I file 2019-2022 tax returns by March 6, 2025 - need help with missing documents and multiple years

Just checked my mail and got a notice from the IRS saying they're holding my 2024 tax refund because I haven't filed for 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022. The notice specifically states "We're holding your 2024 tax refund. Our records show you still haven't filed your 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022 Forms 1040. We believe you'll owe more tax for 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022. We're holding your 2024 refund until we hear from you." I was going through some really rough personal stuff during those years and just couldn't get my act together to file. The letter says I have until March 6, 2025 to either file all those returns or provide an explanation of why I didn't need to file. According to the notice, I have three options for filing my returns: 1. File electronically using a paid or volunteer tax return preparer (they say this is the best option if I can file the missing return within 2 years from when it was originally due) 2. Fax my signed and dated returns to 855-279-2109 3. Mail my signed and dated returns to: Internal Revenue Service Stop 5501 P.O. Box 149338 Austin, TX 78714-9338 Alternatively, I can provide a valid reason for not filing or filing late, along with a copy of the notice, by March 6, 2025. I can either fax my explanation to 855-279-2109 or mail it to the address above. The letter warns that if I don't respond by March 6, 2025, they'll continue to hold my 2024 refund and may determine my tax based on third party information. If they determine I owe taxes or other debts they're required to collect, they may apply all or part of my refund to the amount I owe. They'll send a notice explaining how they applied my refund and a check for any remaining refund (if there is one). I was counting on this refund to catch up on some bills. Has anyone else dealt with this? I don't have all my documents from those years and I'm freaking out about what to do. Do I need to hire someone to help me? The worst part is they'll probably apply my current refund to whatever I end up owing for those past years.

I've been through almost this exact situation and want you to know it's going to be okay! I had 3 unfiled years and got a similar notice threatening to hold my refund. Here's what helped me get through it: **Start immediately:** Get your wage and income transcripts online at irs.gov/transcripts for each year. This was the game-changer for me - it shows exactly what income the IRS has on file and makes everything so much clearer. **Don't stress about missing documents:** The transcripts will show you most of what you need. For anything missing, try contacting old employers' HR departments - most keep records for 7+ years. **Check filing thresholds:** I discovered one of my "missing" years I actually didn't need to file because my income was below the threshold. Saved me a ton of work! **Your mental health matters:** Since you mentioned depression during those years, definitely keep any medical records or documentation. I got about $800 in penalties waived through reasonable cause abatement by showing documented mental health struggles. **Consider professional help:** I tried DIY at first but honestly, spending $200-250 per year for a tax preparer was worth every penny. They caught deductions I missed and handled the penalty paperwork. The March deadline feels scary but you actually have plenty of time. Don't let them calculate your taxes for you - they won't include any deductions and you'll owe way more than necessary. Take it one step at a time and start with those transcripts this week. You've got this!

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I've been through a very similar situation and completely understand the panic you're feeling right now. That notice is terrifying when you first get it, but March 6th actually gives you a reasonable window to get this handled properly. Here's what worked for me when I had 3 unfiled years: **First priority:** Get your wage and income transcripts from irs.gov/transcripts for each year (2019-2022). This is absolutely essential - it's like getting the IRS's answer sheet for what they expect to see on your returns. Mine came within about a week of requesting online. **Don't panic about missing documents:** The transcripts will show most income sources. For anything missing, try contacting former employers' HR departments - they typically keep records for 7+ years. **Check your filing requirements:** Look up the income thresholds for each year. If your income was below the filing requirement for any particular year, you can just send an explanation letter instead of preparing a full return. **Your depression matters:** Since you mentioned going through rough personal times, definitely keep any medical records or documentation from that period. I was able to get significant penalties waived through "reasonable cause" abatement by documenting my mental health struggles. This saved me over $1,200. **Don't let them calculate for you:** Whatever happens, don't miss the deadline and let the IRS determine your taxes based on third-party info. They won't include any deductions, credits, or even the standard deduction - you'll end up owing way more than you should. **Consider getting help:** With 4 years to catch up on, a tax professional might be worth the cost. They can maximize deductions and help with penalty abatement strategies. You mentioned needing that refund for bills - even if it gets applied to past balances, getting this resolved properly prevents much bigger problems down the road. Take it one step at a time and you'll get through this!

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Ruby Blake

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As someone who's been through the content creator tax learning curve, I want to emphasize something that's been touched on but deserves highlighting: the importance of treating this as a legitimate business from day one, regardless of the specific deduction questions. I started my wellness content journey similarly - documenting my fitness transformation while trying to figure out what expenses I could deduct. The biggest mistake I made early on was focusing too much on maximizing deductions instead of building proper business systems. Here's what I wish I'd known from the start: **The IRS cares more about business intent than individual deductions.** If you can show you're genuinely trying to build a profitable business (separate accounts, consistent content creation, multiple monetization attempts, proper record-keeping), they're generally more receptive to reasonable business expenses. **Start conservative with deductions, aggressive with documentation.** Track everything - your time, expenses, content plans, audience growth, revenue attempts. This foundation is way more valuable than any single questionable deduction. **For your Zepbound situation specifically:** Rather than trying to deduct the medication itself, consider how you can build legitimate business expenses around documenting your journey. Professional photography for before/after shots, nutrition tracking apps, consultation fees for expert interviews, etc. The goal should be building a sustainable content business that happens to document your health journey, not finding ways to write off personal health expenses. That mindset shift makes all the tax decisions much clearer and safer. Best of luck with your channel - the fact that you're asking these questions upfront shows you're going to do this right!

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This is such excellent advice, especially the mindset shift you mentioned! I'm the original poster and after reading through all these responses, I'm realizing I was approaching this backwards - focusing on what I could deduct instead of how to build a legitimate business first. Your point about the IRS caring more about business intent really resonates. It sounds like if I establish proper business practices from the beginning (separate accounts, consistent content, clear monetization strategies), then the individual deduction questions become much less critical to worry about upfront. I think I'm going to start with the conservative approach everyone's recommending - focus on the clearly business-related expenses like equipment and software, document everything meticulously, and build actual revenue streams before even considering anything questionable like medication expenses. The peace of mind of knowing I'm doing things the right way seems way more valuable than potentially saving a few hundred dollars on deductions that could cause audit headaches later. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread has been incredibly helpful for a complete beginner like me! I feel much more confident about starting this journey the right way now.

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I'm a tax preparer who works with several content creators, and I want to reinforce what the CPA mentioned earlier - medication expenses are one of the riskiest deductions you can attempt, even with legitimate business documentation. I've seen creators get into trouble trying to deduct supplements, skincare products, and yes, even prescription medications that were central to their content. The IRS has a very clear position: if something provides personal benefit to your health or wellbeing, it's primarily a personal expense regardless of how you use it for content. What I tell my content creator clients is to think of it this way - you're not taking Zepbound FOR your business, you're taking it for your health and then creating content ABOUT that experience. That distinction matters enormously to the IRS. Instead, focus on expenses that exist solely because of your business: - Camera equipment and lighting for filming - Video editing software and subscriptions - Website hosting and domain registration - Business formation costs (LLC filing, EIN setup) - Professional consultations specifically for content strategy These are much safer deductions that won't trigger scrutiny. Once you're established and profitable, you could potentially explore very conservative allocations with proper documentation, but honestly, the juice usually isn't worth the squeeze when it comes to personal health expenses. Build your business on solid ground first - the tax benefits will follow naturally from legitimate business expenses.

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This is exactly the kind of professional perspective I was hoping to get! As someone who's completely new to both content creation and business taxes, your explanation about the distinction between taking medication "for" your business versus "about" your experience really clarifies things for me. I'm definitely convinced now that the conservative approach is the way to go. The potential audit risk and stress just isn't worth trying to save money on what would likely be a questionable deduction anyway. Plus, it sounds like there are plenty of legitimate business expenses I can focus on that will actually help me build a better content creation setup. One quick question - when you mention "very conservative allocations with proper documentation" for established creators, are you talking about allocating like 10-20% of dual-purpose expenses, or even smaller percentages? I'm just curious what "conservative" typically means in practice, even though I'm planning to avoid this entirely for now. Thanks for sharing your professional experience - it's really valuable to hear from someone who's seen how these situations actually play out!

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Zara Perez

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@bf421e3da8c5 When I say "very conservative allocations," I'm typically talking about situations where we can document that less than 10% of the expense is truly business-related, and even then, only for established creators with significant revenue streams and bulletproof documentation. For example, I had a fitness creator who could show that a specific supplement was featured in exactly 3 videos out of 50 total videos that year, with detailed time logs showing business vs. personal use. We allocated about 6% as a business expense, but only because she had ironclad records and the supplement company was actually sponsoring some of her content. Even in that case, I advised her it was borderline risky. For prescription medications like Zepbound, the personal health benefit is so primary that I honestly can't think of a scenario where I'd feel comfortable recommending ANY allocation, no matter how well-documented. The creators who get into trouble are usually the ones who try to deduct 50-80% of personal expenses as "business" costs. The IRS sees right through that. Better to leave money on the table than to invite an audit that could cost thousands in professional fees and penalties, even if you ultimately prevail. Focus on building real revenue first - when you're making good money from legitimate content creation, these small deduction questions become much less important to your overall financial picture.

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Carmen Vega

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This is such a helpful thread! I was making the exact same mistake when I started preparing my return. I kept thinking "Why is my refund so small when they took over $10,000 from my paychecks all year?" Now I understand that only about $6,500 of that was actually federal income tax withholding (Box 2) - the rest was Social Security and Medicare contributions that aren't refundable. It's frustrating that tax software doesn't explain this distinction better upfront. One thing that helped me was looking at my final paystub from December, which shows year-to-date totals for each type of tax. The federal income tax amount there should match what goes on Line 25a. Really wish someone had explained this "buckets" concept to me earlier - would have saved a lot of confusion!

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I totally relate to this confusion! I just went through the same thing last month when I was preparing my taxes. Looking at that final December paystub is such a good tip - it really drives home how much of what gets taken from your paycheck isn't actually "withholding" in the tax sense. What really helped me was thinking about it like this: if Social Security and Medicare taxes were refundable, then people who had low tax liability would get back money they paid into programs they'll benefit from later. That wouldn't make sense for how these programs are designed to work. They're more like mandatory savings for your future self rather than prepayment of your current tax bill. I wish tax prep courses or even high school finance classes covered this distinction better. It's such a fundamental concept but most people (myself included) stumble through figuring it out on their own!

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This is exactly the kind of confusion I had when I first started doing my own taxes! The key thing to remember is that Line 25a is specifically for "Federal income tax withheld" - which is only what's in Box 2 of your W-2. Your $7,800 from Box 2 is correct for Line 25a. The Social Security ($5,600 combined from Boxes 4 and 6) represents your contributions to those specific programs, not prepayment of your income tax liability. These are two completely different systems. Think of it this way: federal income tax withholding is like having your employer hold money in a savings account for you to pay your tax bill. If they held too much, you get the extra back as a refund. Social Security and Medicare taxes are more like insurance premiums - you pay them to earn future benefits, but they're not refundable based on your current year tax situation. So you're not missing out on any refund money - you're getting credit for exactly what you should be getting credit for on your tax return!

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Sunny Wang

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone new to filing my own taxes, I was making the exact same mistake. I kept wondering why my potential refund was so much smaller than the total amount taken from my paychecks throughout the year. The insurance premium analogy really clicks for me - I never thought about Social Security and Medicare taxes that way before. It makes sense that you can't get back money you paid into programs designed to benefit you decades from now. I'm curious though - is there any way to track how much you've contributed to Social Security over your working years? It would be nice to see how these "premiums" are building up toward future benefits, especially since it's such a significant chunk of each paycheck.

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