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I think there's definitely some confusion here about the line numbers. I just completed the Jennifer Taxpayer practice exam yesterday and can confirm that in the current version, you're asked about line 2b for taxable interest, not line 15. For anyone still working on this: the $1,250 from savings account interest plus the $875 from the Capital One 1099-INT should total $2,125 and go on line 2b. Any tax-exempt municipal bond interest would go on line 2a instead. It sounds like some people might be working with an older version of the practice exam that references outdated line numbers. I'd recommend downloading the most current version from Intuit's website to avoid this confusion. The actual 2022 Form 1040 has taxable interest on line 2b, and that's what the updated practice exam should be testing.

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Sean O'Connor

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Thank you so much for clearing this up! I was getting really frustrated because I kept looking for line 15 on my 2022 Form 1040 and couldn't find where interest income was supposed to go there. Your explanation about the outdated practice exam versions makes perfect sense now. I just downloaded the latest version from Intuit and you're absolutely right - it asks about line 2b for the taxable interest. The $2,125 total ($1,250 + $875) worked perfectly and I finally passed that section! Really appreciate everyone's help in this thread, especially clarifying the line number confusion.

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I was having the exact same issue with the Jennifer Taxpayer practice exam and getting really frustrated. After reading through all these responses, I realize I was making two mistakes: 1) I was looking at an older version of the practice exam that referenced line 15 instead of line 2b, and 2) I was accidentally including some tax-exempt municipal bond interest in my taxable interest calculation. Just to confirm for anyone else still struggling - on the current 2022 Form 1040, taxable interest goes on line 2b (not line 15), and for Jennifer's scenario it should be $1,250 + $875 = $2,125. The tax-exempt interest from municipal bonds goes separately on line 2a. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences with the different tools and resources too. It's really helpful to know there are options like taxr.ai and even ways to reach actual IRS agents when you get stuck on these practice scenarios.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm also working through tax preparer certification and was running into similar issues. It's frustrating when practice materials don't match current forms - I wasted so much time thinking I was doing something wrong when it was just outdated line references. Your breakdown of the two main mistakes (wrong line number and including tax-exempt interest) is exactly what I needed. I've been struggling with distinguishing between taxable and tax-exempt interest reporting. The fact that tax-exempt interest still needs to be reported on line 2a even though it's not taxable was something I completely missed. Going to update my practice materials now and retry the Jennifer Taxpayer scenario with the correct line 2b reference. Really appreciate everyone sharing their solutions!

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Rhett Bowman

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Just to share some additional insight on this topic - I'm a beneficiary of a trust that regularly uses the 65-day election. My understanding from speaking with our trust administrator is that while the trust reports these distributions on the prior year's return, beneficiaries report the income in the year they actually receive it. However, there's an important nuance: you need to understand the character of the income being distributed. If the distribution represents income that was already taxable to the trust in the prior year (like accumulated income), then the timing of your reporting might be affected. The K-1 you receive should clarify this, but it's often confusing since the K-1 will reference the trust's tax year.

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Abigail Patel

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Could you explain more about the "character of income" issue? I received a distribution in February that was specifically from capital gains the trust earned last year. Does that change when I report it compared to regular income distributions?

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Rhett Bowman

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The character of the income (whether it's ordinary income, capital gains, tax-exempt income, etc.) passes through to you as a beneficiary, but generally doesn't change when you report it. So for your February distribution from capital gains, you would still report it in the year you received it, but it would maintain its character as capital gains income. What can sometimes cause confusion is when distributions include previously taxed income or corpus (principal) of the trust. Distributions of corpus generally aren't taxable to beneficiaries at all. The K-1 should break down the character of your distribution, showing how much is from capital gains, ordinary income, tax-exempt income, or return of principal.

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Daniel White

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I had this exact issue last year with a family trust. I received a distribution on February 28, 2022 that the trust counted toward their 2021 taxes using the 65-day rule. My tax preparer initially included it on my 2021 return, but after researching further, we amended to report it on my 2022 return instead, since that's when I actually received the money. The key document that clarified this for us was the explanation of the Section 663(b) election in IRS Publication 559. It specifies that the election only affects the trust's deduction timing, not the beneficiary's income recognition. The beneficiary includes the amount in income for the year in which it's received.

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Nolan Carter

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Did you face any issues with the amendment? I'm in a similar situation where I reported a trust distribution on last year's return, but now I think it should have been on this year's return since I received it in January. I'm worried about penalties if I amend.

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Rita Jacobs

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Has anyone here actually tried to get reimbursed from their FSA for foreign childcare? My FSA administrator is giving me a hard time about accepting receipts from my kid's program in Mexico even though I had them professionally translated. They keep insisting on a W-10 form which obviously a foreign provider won't have.

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Khalid Howes

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I successfully got reimbursed for my daughter's summer program in Costa Rica last year. The key was providing a detailed letter from the program (on their letterhead) that included their tax ID in their country, business registration number, and a statement that they don't have a US EIN because they're a foreign entity. My FSA administrator initially rejected it too, but I pointed out that the IRS allows "FOREIGN" as a TIN on Form 2441, and their own plan documents didn't specify that providers had to be domestic. They eventually approved it after I escalated to a supervisor.

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Rita Jacobs

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's super helpful. I'll definitely try getting a letter from the program with their Mexican tax ID and business info. And good tip about escalating to a supervisor - I've only been dealing with the frontline customer service people who probably just follow a script. Did you have to cite any specific IRS rules when you escalated?

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Just want to add another perspective here - I went through this exact situation last year when my son attended an international school in Singapore for 10 months. The key thing that helped me was getting everything documented upfront before making any payments. I contacted the school administrator and explained that I needed specific documentation for US tax purposes. They provided me with a letter on official letterhead that included their Singapore business registration number, their local tax ID, a statement that they don't have a US EIN, and confirmation of the services they provide (childcare/education during working hours). For payments, I made sure everything went through traceable methods - bank transfers or credit cards, never cash. This created a clear paper trail that both my FSA administrator and the IRS could verify if needed. One thing I learned is that different FSA administrators have varying levels of familiarity with foreign providers. If you're getting pushback, ask to speak with someone in their compliance department rather than general customer service. They're usually more knowledgeable about the actual IRS regulations versus just following standard scripts. The whole process was definitely more paperwork than domestic childcare, but it was absolutely worth it to get the tax benefits on those expenses!

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This is incredibly helpful advice, especially about getting documentation upfront! I'm just starting to plan for my daughter's program overseas and hadn't thought about contacting the provider ahead of time to explain what I need for US tax purposes. The tip about asking for the compliance department instead of general customer service is gold - I can see how they'd be much more familiar with the actual regulations. Did you run into any issues with the exchange rate documentation, or did your FSA administrator just accept the USD equivalent you reported on your reimbursement requests? Also, do you happen to know if there are any restrictions on how long the child can be overseas before it affects their dependent status? Eight months seems fine based on other comments, but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything important for tax planning.

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Can I prepay 2024 or future property taxes to take as deductions on my 2023 tax return?

I got into a heated debate with my neighbor last night about tax planning strategies, and I'm hoping someone can clear this up for us. We both own homes we've lived in for several years (so no confusion about new purchases or sales). My neighbor insists we can prepay our 2024 property taxes now and deduct them on our 2023 tax returns. I disagreed, saying you can only deduct taxes for the year they're actually imposed, not just when you decide to pay them early. But honestly, if I'm wrong, that would be great news for my tax situation! My neighbor made similar claims about prepaying mortgage interest, but I found this directly from the IRS website: >Prepaid interest. If you pay interest in advance for a period that goes beyond the end of the tax year, you must spread this interest over the tax years to which it applies. Generally, you can deduct in each year only the interest that qualifies as home mortgage interest for that year. An exception (discussed later) applies to points. But I can't find anything similarly clear from the IRS about property taxes. With all the changes to standard deductions and itemized deductions, this could significantly impact my tax planning, so I want to make sure I understand the rules. I've read so many conflicting articles online - some say you can prepay, others say you can't, and some say you can only prepay the next installment (like the first quarter of next year). It's frustrating! I've left a message with my accountant, but I'd love to hear what others know about this. Even tax professionals sometimes give different answers, and this seems like something many homeowners would want to know about. Thanks for any insights!

Natalie Adams

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As a government employee who has worked with tax policy implementation, I can confirm what several people have mentioned about the assessment requirement. The key distinction is between when a tax is legally imposed versus when you choose to pay it. The IRS has been pretty clear since the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that prepaying future tax years doesn't accelerate the deduction. You can only deduct property taxes in the year they become a legal obligation - meaning the taxing authority has completed their assessment process and determined what you actually owe. What gets confusing is that different jurisdictions have different processes. Some counties assess quarterly, others annually. Some send "estimated" bills that later get finalized, while others send final assessments upfront. The timing of when YOU can deduct depends on when THEY complete their official assessment. The practical advice about calling your county assessor is spot-on. They can tell you exactly when taxes are considered "assessed" in your jurisdiction. Don't rely on when bills are mailed - ask specifically about when the assessment becomes legally binding. And yes, definitely check the SALT cap first! With the $10,000 limit, many homeowners hit that ceiling regardless of timing strategies. Combined with the higher standard deduction, fewer people benefit from itemizing these days anyway.

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Thank you so much for this authoritative clarification! It's really helpful to hear from someone with direct experience in tax policy implementation. Your explanation about the legal obligation versus payment timing distinction makes perfect sense and clears up a lot of the confusion I've been having. I'm definitely going to call my county assessor's office now - several people have mentioned this, and it sounds like the most reliable way to get jurisdiction-specific information. The point about not relying on when bills are mailed is particularly useful since I've been assuming the mailing date was what mattered. Your reminder about checking the SALT cap first is also well-taken. I realize I've been putting the cart before the horse by diving into complex timing strategies without first determining if they'd even benefit me. With property taxes, state income taxes, and local taxes combined, I suspect I'm already hitting that $10k limit anyway. This whole thread has been incredibly educational - from the technical assessment requirements to the practical tools people have shared. It's a great example of how community knowledge can help navigate these complex tax situations!

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Nia Harris

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This has been such an informative discussion! As someone who's been dealing with this exact confusion, I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and expertise. What strikes me most is how much the rules vary by jurisdiction - it seems like the key is understanding your specific county's assessment process rather than trying to apply general rules. The distinction between "estimated" and "assessed" taxes appears to be crucial, and it's clearly something that trips up a lot of homeowners. I'm also grateful for the reality check about the SALT cap and standard deduction. It's easy to get caught up in optimization strategies without first checking if they'll actually provide any benefit. For many of us, especially in higher-tax states, these timing strategies may not matter at all under current tax law. The various tools and services mentioned here (taxr.ai for document analysis, Claimyr for reaching the IRS) sound like they could save a lot of time and confusion. It's frustrating that such basic tax questions can be so difficult to get answered through normal channels. I think the best takeaway is: 1) Call your county assessor to understand their specific assessment timeline, 2) Check if you'll hit the SALT cap anyway, 3) Verify you'll exceed the standard deduction threshold, and 4) Only then worry about prepayment timing strategies. Thanks to everyone who contributed their knowledge - this kind of community sharing is invaluable for navigating our complex tax system!

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Giovanni Greco

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone new to homeownership, I had no idea the property tax deduction rules were this complex. I was actually planning to prepay my 2024 property taxes this December thinking it would help with my 2023 return, but now I understand I need to check if they've actually been assessed first. The point about calling the county assessor directly is brilliant - I never would have thought to do that. It makes so much more sense to get the information straight from the source rather than trying to decipher confusing tax documents or rely on general online advice. I'm also glad people mentioned the SALT cap because I'm in a high-tax area and probably need to calculate whether I'll hit that $10k limit anyway. It would be silly to spend time on timing strategies that won't actually reduce my tax bill! One question though - for those who mentioned using taxr.ai or similar tools, do you think they're worth it for someone with a fairly straightforward tax situation (single property, W-2 income, standard mortgage)? Or is it mainly helpful for more complex scenarios? Thanks again to everyone for sharing their knowledge - this community is amazing for getting real-world tax advice!

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Grace Johnson

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I'm going through something very similar with my mother's estate right now. One thing I learned that might help - make sure you document EVERYTHING related to the property's condition and any unique factors that might affect its value at the time of your father's death. When I got my appraisal done, the appraiser asked detailed questions about renovations, the neighborhood market conditions, and even things like whether there were any known issues with the property. Since you mentioned it's been 12 years since the last appraisal, the market dynamics in your area have probably changed significantly. Also, if your father made any improvements or if there were any problems with the house around the time he passed (like needing a new roof or having foundation issues), make sure the appraiser knows about these. They can affect the FMV determination either positively or negatively, and you want the most accurate picture possible for your stepped-up basis. The good news is that stepped-up basis really is designed to help heirs avoid being penalized for appreciation that happened during the original owner's lifetime. Getting that current appraisal is definitely the right move - it protects you and gives you solid documentation if the IRS ever has questions.

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ApolloJackson

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This is really helpful advice about documenting everything! I'm wondering - when you say document the property's condition, what's the best way to do that? Should I take photos of everything or is there a more formal process? Also, did your appraiser give you any specific guidance on what kinds of neighborhood market condition changes they look for when doing these estate appraisals? I want to make sure I'm prepared when I meet with the appraiser so I don't miss anything important that could affect the FMV determination.

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Dyllan Nantx

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For documenting property condition, I took extensive photos both inside and outside the house, including any obvious defects or recent improvements. I also gathered receipts for any work my mother had done in the last few years and made notes about things like appliance ages and overall maintenance state. My appraiser was really thorough about neighborhood changes - she looked at recent comparable sales, new construction in the area, and even asked about changes to local amenities or transportation that might affect values. She mentioned that markets can shift dramatically over 12 years, especially with things like new schools, shopping centers, or major employers moving in or out of the area. One tip: if your father kept any records of home improvements or maintenance, gather those up before meeting with the appraiser. Even small things like a new water heater or updated electrical can add up. Also ask neighbors about recent sales in the area if you can - the appraiser will use comps, but having some local knowledge can help you understand if their valuation seems reasonable. The key is being as thorough as possible now so you have solid documentation if questions come up later during tax filing.

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now after my grandmother passed away last month. One thing that's been really helpful is keeping a detailed timeline of everything - when she passed, when we started probate, when we got the appraisal, etc. The estate attorney we're working with emphasized that the stepped-up basis date is locked in at the date of death, regardless of when probate closes or when you actually get possession of the property. So even though we're still months away from completing probate, we got the appraisal done as soon as we could to establish that FMV. Something else to consider - if there are multiple heirs, make sure everyone is on the same page about the appraisal and sale timeline. We initially had some disagreement in our family about whether to sell quickly or hold onto the property, but once we understood how capital gains would work with the stepped-up basis, it made the decision much clearer. The tax implications really do favor selling sooner rather than later if you don't plan to keep the property long-term. Every month you hold it after the date of death is potentially more capital gains you'll owe when you eventually sell.

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This timeline advice is really smart! I'm just starting this process and hadn't thought about documenting all the dates, but I can see how that would be important later. Quick question - when you say the stepped-up basis date is "locked in" at the date of death, does that mean if property values in the area drop between when my father died and when we get the appraisal done, we're still stuck with the higher value? Or would the appraisal reflect the actual market conditions at the time of death regardless of current conditions? Also, regarding selling sooner vs later - are there any exceptions where it might make sense to hold onto inherited property longer, or is it pretty much always better from a tax perspective to sell quickly after getting through probate?

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