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Has anyone actually gotten through to the IRS using the regular phone number recently? I tried calling at exactly 7:00am when they opened and still got the "due to high call volume" message and it hung up on me!
I got through last Thursday but only after calling literally 12 times. Each time it hung up on me but on the 13th try I got in the queue. Then waited 1 hour 47 minutes to speak to someone. The trick seems to be to keep calling back repeatedly and eventually you'll get lucky and get in the queue instead of getting the "we're too busy" message.
For what it's worth, this happened to me last year, and it turned out my accountant had accidentally e-filed my return TWICE. The first one got accepted, then when she realized she made a mistake and tried to refile, we got this same error code. Might be worth checking if anyone tried filing anything for you (like if you started a return with one tax software, then switched to another).
That's interesting - I did start my taxes in TurboTax but then switched to FreeTaxUSA because it was cheaper. I didn't complete or submit anything in TurboTax though, just started inputting some basic info. Could TurboTax have somehow submitted something without me finalizing it??
It's unlikely TurboTax would submit without you finalizing, but not impossible if there was a glitch. Check your TurboTax account to see if there's any record of a submission. Also, if you used the same email for both tax services, check your email carefully for any confirmation messages that might indicate something was filed. Another possibility: if you had a tax preparer do your taxes last year, sometimes they automatically file extensions for all their clients as a courtesy. Maybe someone filed an extension for you without informing you? Worth checking if that could have happened.
Has anybody else had the same confusion between self-employment tax vs. income tax? I've been working as an independent contractor for 2 years and STILL don't fully understand why my effective tax rate is so high compared to when I was just a W-2 employee.
The biggest shock for me was realizing that when you're self-employed, you pay BOTH halves of FICA (Social Security and Medicare). As an employee, your employer pays half and you pay half, but self-employed folks pay the whole 15.3%. Then on top of that, you're still paying regular income tax! What helped me was setting aside 30% of every payment I receive for taxes. It sounds high but it's better than being surprised with a huge bill at tax time.
One thing I didn't see mentioned here - you might benefit from changing your business structure. If you're currently a partnership or sole proprietor, you might save on self-employment taxes by setting up as an S-Corp. You'd pay yourself a reasonable salary (which would still have FICA taxes) but could take the rest as distributions that aren't subject to self-employment tax. At $24k it might not be worth the extra compliance costs, but if your business income is growing, it's definitely something to consider for next year. Saved me about $4k last year on $85k of business income.
I had this issue too, but never got a corrected 1099-K. I filed by reporting the amount on the 1099-K and then offsetting it with a negative adjustment labeled "non-taxable personal transfers." Attached a simple explanation letter just to be safe. That was two years ago and never heard anything from the IRS about it.
Did you have to do anything special to add that explanation letter when e-filing? Or did you just mail it separately?
I e-filed my return and then mailed the explanation letter separately with a cover page that had my name, social security number, and tax year clearly marked. I included a brief note stating it was supplemental documentation for my already-filed return. If you're using FreeTaxUSA like you mentioned, they also have a section where you can add notes or explanations directly in your e-filed return, which might be sufficient without needing to mail anything separately.
One thing to watch out for - sometimes payment apps are sending these 1099-Ks even when you're below the reporting threshold. For 2023 taxes (filing in 2024), the federal threshold is supposed to be $5,000, but some states have their own lower thresholds. What state are you in? That might be why you got one for only $4,700.
The federal threshold for 2023 was actually supposed to be $600, but the IRS delayed implementation and kept it at $20,000 and 200 transactions. But some companies might have already updated their systems for the $600 threshold before the IRS announced the delay.
One thing nobody mentioned - check if your parents are still claiming you as a dependent! If they are, it affects what deductions you can take. My first year working I screwed this up because my parents claimed me (I lived with them for 5 months that year) and I also claimed myself. Created a huge headache!
Thanks for bringing this up! I did check with my parents and they're not claiming me anymore since I've been fully supporting myself since graduation. But that's definitely something I wouldn't have thought about before reading your comment. How do you know whether someone can claim you as a dependent? Is there like an age cutoff or income limit?
There's actually a few tests the IRS uses. For a "qualifying child" dependent, you need to be under 19 (or under 24 if you're a student) and live with your parents for more than half the year. There's also a support test - if you provided more than half of your own financial support during the year, then your parents can't claim you, regardless of age or living situation. Since you mentioned you've been fully supporting yourself, you're definitely not a dependent anymore. It's definitely something that causes confusion that first year of independence! Glad you already sorted it out with your parents.
Everyone's focusing on standard vs itemized, but don't sleep on tax credits! Unlike deductions that just reduce your taxable income, credits directly reduce your tax bill dollar for dollar. The education credits are huge for new grads - American Opportunity Credit (up to $2,500) if you were in school part of the year, or Lifetime Learning Credit (up to $2,000) for your certification courses. These are WAY more valuable than deductions.
This is the best advice here. When I was a new grad, I missed out on the American Opportunity Credit my first year because I didn't realize I could claim it for my final semester. That was literally $1,500 down the drain! Also check if your state has additional credits. In California, I got a renter's credit that most of my friends didn't know about.
Thanks for this! I was in school for the spring semester before graduating in May, so I'll definitely look into the American Opportunity Credit. I had no idea there was a difference between credits and deductions until reading these comments. Do software programs like TurboTax automatically check for these credits, or do I need to specifically know to look for them? I'm worried about missing something important now.
Paloma Clark
don't listen to these squares lol. i've been doing side jobs for cash for years and never reported any of it. no problems at all. as long as you're not depositing huge cash amounts at once or buying lamborghinis while reporting minimum wage income, the irs has bigger fish to fry.
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Heather Tyson
ā¢This is terrible advice. My cousin did exactly this for years with his landscaping side gig and got absolutely hammered with back taxes, penalties and interest when they finally caught him. Ended up owing more than triple what he would have if he'd just reported it properly.
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Hattie Carson
Has anybody tried just reporting SOME of the unreported income? Like maybe reporting half of it to split the difference between being totally honest and totally dishonest? Seems like that might reduce your risk while still saving some tax money.
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Isaiah Sanders
ā¢That's actually a terrible idea. Intentionally underreporting some income while reporting other income demonstrates knowledge and intent, which can bump you from the "negligence" penalty category (20%) to the "fraud" category (75%). It shows you knew you should report the income but deliberately chose not to report all of it. If you're going to report some, you should report all of it. Partial compliance often looks worse than simple "forgetting" because it proves you knew the rules but chose to break them anyway.
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