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I tracked exactly 143 cases with this pattern during the 2023 tax season. The average time between a $0 balance appearing and the 846 refund issued code was 8.7 days. 71% of taxpayers received their deposits within 5-11 business days after state approval when it coincided with federal balance zeroing out. The 971 notice in your case is likely just confirming the completion of the review process that resulted in your $0 balance. Your WMR tool probably hasn't updated because it refreshes on a 72-hour cycle, while transcripts update in real-time. I'd expect your 846 code to appear by April 12th based on current processing metrics.
This matches my experience exactly. My transcript showed $0 on March 14th, state was approved March 15th, and my federal refund hit my account on March 22nd. The WMR tool never updated until after I got my money!
I need to caution you about counting on this money for your April 30th deadline. While the signs are promising, here's what could still happen: Step 1: Even with a $0 balance showing, the IRS could still flag your return for additional review at the last minute. Step 2: If you claimed certain credits, your refund might be subject to additional verification. Step 3: The IRS could apply part of your refund to offset other government debts you might not be aware of. Step 4: Banking delays can add 1-5 business days AFTER the IRS issues the refund. I've seen too many people make financial commitments based on expected refunds only to face serious consequences when the timing didn't work out. Have a backup plan for your investment if the refund doesn't arrive in time.
Want to know what not to do? Don't keep filing multiple returns thinking the first one didn't go through. My neighbor did that last year and ended up with three returns in the system. You know what happens then? Automatic fraud investigation. Do you want to deal with the IRS Criminal Investigation Division? That's how you end up dealing with the IRS Criminal Investigation Division. His refund was held for 8 months while they sorted it out. Just because WMR doesn't show it doesn't mean they don't have it.
If you want to get specific information about your return status, here's what worked for me: ⢠Request your tax transcripts online instead of relying on WMR ⢠Access your account at https://www.irs.gov/payments/view-your-tax-account ⢠Look for transaction codes that indicate processing status ⢠Code 150 means your return is processed ⢠Code 570 indicates a hold on your account ⢠Code 971 means a notice was issued My February filing showed nothing on WMR for weeks, but my transcript showed it was received and being processed. The transcripts are updated more frequently and provide much more detailed information than the WMR tool.
Thank you so much for breaking this down! I've been staring at these codes on my transcript and had no idea what they meant. I see a 570 code from April 15th - I guess that explains the delay.
I went through EXACTLY this last month. Here's what happened: 1. Cycle code appeared (mine was 20240805) 2. 971 notice showed with $0 amount 3. SBTPG showed my account info 4. THREE DAYS LATER my transcript updated with an 846 code (refund issued) 5. TWO DAYS AFTER THAT the money hit my account The whole process from seeing SBTPG info to money in my account was exactly 5 business days. The system is frustrating as hell but at least it's consistent. You're almost there!
This is incredibly helpful! I appreciate you sharing your experience in such detail. Makes the waiting game a little easier.
Just to clarify what you're seeing: ⢠Cycle code 20241005 = processed in the 10th week, 5th cycle of 2024 ⢠971 code = notice issued ⢠$0 amount = no change to your refund amount ⢠SBTPG showing account = they've received notification your refund is approved This combination typically means your DDD (846 code) will appear on your next transcript update. Most people in your situation see their refund within 3-7 business days from this point. The system follows a very predictable pattern once SBTPG has your information.
Have you considered requesting a transcript directly instead of using WMR? According to IRM 21.2.3.5.7 (Deceased Taxpayer Transcript Requests), you can submit Form 4506-T as the executor to request account transcripts. This might give you more information than WMR, which often doesn't work properly for deceased taxpayer returns. Also, did you include Form 1310 (Statement of Person Claiming Refund Due a Deceased Taxpayer) with your paper filing?
I successfully handled my husband's final return last year after weeks of frustration. The key was persistence and documentation. I created a dedicated folder with copies of EVERYTHING - the original return, death certificate, executor papers, and most importantly, a detailed log of all communications with the IRS including dates, times, and employee IDs when possible. After no movement for 10 weeks, I sent a follow-up letter referencing the certified mail tracking number of the original submission. Magically, the refund was processed two weeks later. Document everything and be methodical - it eventually pays off.
Wow, the dedicated folder idea is brilliant! š Never would have thought organization would be the secret weapon against the IRS bureaucracy. Seriously though, I'm impressed with how thoroughly you handled this. Going to steal your system for my own tax nightmare this year.
Isabella Silva
OMG I'm literally dealing w/ this rn too!! Been stuck since 2/14 w/ same codes! Called yesterday and FINALLY got thru after like 2hrs on hold. They said my return is in ERS dept (Error Resolution) bc something didn't match their records. Could be anything from SSN typo to income verification. They're SUPER backlogged so it could be another 4-6 wks!!! š If u need $ for PCS asap, maybe ask about hardship status? Gotta provide proof tho. GL!!
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Ravi Choudhury
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this stress right before a PCS! š« I had the EXACT same codes last year and felt completely helpless. In my case, the 971 notice arrived about 10 days after the codes appeared on my transcript. It turned out they needed verification of my childcare expenses. I sent the documentation they requested, and my refund was released three weeks later. If you're worried, you might try calling early in the morning (right when they open at 7am) which is when I finally got through. I know how stressful military moves are without tax issues on top of it!
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