


Ask the community...
One big thing to consider when filing delinquent FBARs is whether you've also been reporting your foreign income correctly all along. The FBAR issue might be just one part of your compliance requirements as an Australian citizen in the US. Have you been reporting any interest earned in those Australian accounts on your US tax returns? What about your Superannuation fund - depending on how it's structured, it might need to be reported on additional forms beyond just the FBAR (potentially PFIC forms or foreign trust reporting).
Oh geez, I didn't even think about that. I've been reporting my US income but didn't include the interest from my Australian accounts (which is pretty minimal, maybe $200/year). I haven't touched my Super since moving here - do I really need to report that too?? This is getting more complicated than I thought.
Yes, technically all worldwide income needs to be reported on your US tax returns, even small amounts of interest. However, small amounts are unlikely to trigger major issues. Australian Superannuation funds are a complicated area for US tax purposes. Some tax professionals argue they should be treated as foreign pensions (which have specific reporting), while others consider them PFICs (Passive Foreign Investment Companies) which require Form 8621 filing. Some even argue they could be considered foreign trusts requiring Forms 3520/3520-A. This might be one area where professional advice is warranted, as the reporting requirements are complex and the penalties for incorrect PFIC or trust reporting are significant. You might want to look into streamlined filing procedures which cover both delinquent FBARs and amended tax returns in one process.
Does anyone know if the FBAR thresholds apply to the combined total across all accounts or each individual account? I have 3 small accounts in Australia that individually never exceed $10k but combined sometimes do.
It's the combined total of all your foreign financial accounts at any point during the year. So if the maximum balances of all your accounts together exceeded $10,000 at any point, even for a day, you need to file an FBAR for that year. For example, if you had three accounts with $4,000 each ($12,000 total), you would need to file even though no single account exceeds $10,000.
don't listen to these squares lol. i've been doing side jobs for cash for years and never reported any of it. no problems at all. as long as you're not depositing huge cash amounts at once or buying lamborghinis while reporting minimum wage income, the irs has bigger fish to fry.
Has anybody tried just reporting SOME of the unreported income? Like maybe reporting half of it to split the difference between being totally honest and totally dishonest? Seems like that might reduce your risk while still saving some tax money.
That's actually a terrible idea. Intentionally underreporting some income while reporting other income demonstrates knowledge and intent, which can bump you from the "negligence" penalty category (20%) to the "fraud" category (75%). It shows you knew you should report the income but deliberately chose not to report all of it. If you're going to report some, you should report all of it. Partial compliance often looks worse than simple "forgetting" because it proves you knew the rules but chose to break them anyway.
One thing nobody mentioned - check if your parents are still claiming you as a dependent! If they are, it affects what deductions you can take. My first year working I screwed this up because my parents claimed me (I lived with them for 5 months that year) and I also claimed myself. Created a huge headache!
Thanks for bringing this up! I did check with my parents and they're not claiming me anymore since I've been fully supporting myself since graduation. But that's definitely something I wouldn't have thought about before reading your comment. How do you know whether someone can claim you as a dependent? Is there like an age cutoff or income limit?
There's actually a few tests the IRS uses. For a "qualifying child" dependent, you need to be under 19 (or under 24 if you're a student) and live with your parents for more than half the year. There's also a support test - if you provided more than half of your own financial support during the year, then your parents can't claim you, regardless of age or living situation. Since you mentioned you've been fully supporting yourself, you're definitely not a dependent anymore. It's definitely something that causes confusion that first year of independence! Glad you already sorted it out with your parents.
Everyone's focusing on standard vs itemized, but don't sleep on tax credits! Unlike deductions that just reduce your taxable income, credits directly reduce your tax bill dollar for dollar. The education credits are huge for new grads - American Opportunity Credit (up to $2,500) if you were in school part of the year, or Lifetime Learning Credit (up to $2,000) for your certification courses. These are WAY more valuable than deductions.
This is the best advice here. When I was a new grad, I missed out on the American Opportunity Credit my first year because I didn't realize I could claim it for my final semester. That was literally $1,500 down the drain! Also check if your state has additional credits. In California, I got a renter's credit that most of my friends didn't know about.
Thanks for this! I was in school for the spring semester before graduating in May, so I'll definitely look into the American Opportunity Credit. I had no idea there was a difference between credits and deductions until reading these comments. Do software programs like TurboTax automatically check for these credits, or do I need to specifically know to look for them? I'm worried about missing something important now.
Has anybody else had the same confusion between self-employment tax vs. income tax? I've been working as an independent contractor for 2 years and STILL don't fully understand why my effective tax rate is so high compared to when I was just a W-2 employee.
The biggest shock for me was realizing that when you're self-employed, you pay BOTH halves of FICA (Social Security and Medicare). As an employee, your employer pays half and you pay half, but self-employed folks pay the whole 15.3%. Then on top of that, you're still paying regular income tax! What helped me was setting aside 30% of every payment I receive for taxes. It sounds high but it's better than being surprised with a huge bill at tax time.
One thing I didn't see mentioned here - you might benefit from changing your business structure. If you're currently a partnership or sole proprietor, you might save on self-employment taxes by setting up as an S-Corp. You'd pay yourself a reasonable salary (which would still have FICA taxes) but could take the rest as distributions that aren't subject to self-employment tax. At $24k it might not be worth the extra compliance costs, but if your business income is growing, it's definitely something to consider for next year. Saved me about $4k last year on $85k of business income.
Henry Delgado
Has anyone actually gotten through to the IRS using the regular phone number recently? I tried calling at exactly 7:00am when they opened and still got the "due to high call volume" message and it hung up on me!
0 coins
Olivia Kay
ā¢I got through last Thursday but only after calling literally 12 times. Each time it hung up on me but on the 13th try I got in the queue. Then waited 1 hour 47 minutes to speak to someone. The trick seems to be to keep calling back repeatedly and eventually you'll get lucky and get in the queue instead of getting the "we're too busy" message.
0 coins
Henry Delgado
ā¢Thanks for the tip! I'll try the persistence approach tomorrow morning. 12 attempts sounds painful but I guess it's worth it if it eventually works. Did you select any specific options in the phone menu that seemed to help get you through?
0 coins
Joshua Hellan
For what it's worth, this happened to me last year, and it turned out my accountant had accidentally e-filed my return TWICE. The first one got accepted, then when she realized she made a mistake and tried to refile, we got this same error code. Might be worth checking if anyone tried filing anything for you (like if you started a return with one tax software, then switched to another).
0 coins
Miranda Singer
ā¢That's interesting - I did start my taxes in TurboTax but then switched to FreeTaxUSA because it was cheaper. I didn't complete or submit anything in TurboTax though, just started inputting some basic info. Could TurboTax have somehow submitted something without me finalizing it??
0 coins
Joshua Hellan
ā¢It's unlikely TurboTax would submit without you finalizing, but not impossible if there was a glitch. Check your TurboTax account to see if there's any record of a submission. Also, if you used the same email for both tax services, check your email carefully for any confirmation messages that might indicate something was filed. Another possibility: if you had a tax preparer do your taxes last year, sometimes they automatically file extensions for all their clients as a courtesy. Maybe someone filed an extension for you without informing you? Worth checking if that could have happened.
0 coins