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CosmicCommander

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Just to add something important no one mentioned yet - if you're not married, one of you can file as Head of Household (which gives a bigger standard deduction and better tax rates) while the other files as Single. To file as HOH, you generally need to: 1) Be unmarried 2) Pay more than half the cost of keeping up your home 3) Have a qualifying person (like your child) live with you for more than half the year So figure that into your calculations too! The person who claims the child as a dependent should probably be the one filing HOH if they qualify, which might be another reason why it worked out better when you claimed your son last year.

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Carmen Vega

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Oh man I didn't even think about the Head of Household thing! That might explain the big difference when I ran the numbers last year. So if I understand right, whoever claims our son can probably file as Head of Household, and the other person has to file as Single? Does this mean we should really be looking at our COMBINED tax situation rather than individual returns? Like figuring out which combination of her filing status + my filing status + who claims our son = the best overall result for our household?

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CosmicCommander

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Yes, you've got it right! Whoever claims your son would likely qualify for Head of Household (assuming they meet the other requirements like paying for more than half the household expenses), while the other person would file as Single. Absolutely, you should be looking at your combined tax situation. It's not just about who gets the dependent deduction - it's about the whole package: different filing statuses, child tax credit, earned income credit if your incomes qualify, and other credits/deductions that phase out at different income levels. That's why running the numbers both ways like you did last year is the smart approach. The goal is to minimize your household's total tax burden, not just one person's taxes.

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I work at a tax prep office and see this situation all the time. Quick clarification on something important: the child tax credit and earned income credit can make a HUGE difference depending on which parent claims the child and what your income levels are. For example, if one of you makes too much money (over $200,000 filing single in 2024), the Child Tax Credit starts to phase out. Or if one of you makes very little income, the Earned Income Credit might be valuable but it phases out as you earn more. These credits often explain why one person claiming the child results in a much bigger refund overall than the other person claiming them, even if your incomes seem similar.

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This is so true. When my partner and I were in this situation, we discovered a $3700 difference just based on who claimed our twins because of the earned income credit thresholds. It was actually better for the higher earner to claim them in our case, which seemed counterintuitive.

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Everyone needs to calm down about the refund situation. The IRS always has delays, every single year. This isn't new or special because of the recent issues. I've been filing taxes for 30+ years and there's always some drama about refunds. If you filed electronically with direct deposit, you'll get your money. If you filed by paper, it'll take longer. If you claimed certain credits, it'll take longer. If you have a complex return, it'll take longer. The IRS is processing millions of returns - yours isn't special or lost, it's just in the queue.

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Sean Flanagan

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OK boomer, but some of us actually need that money for bills and can't just wait around indefinitely while the government sits on it. Not everyone has the luxury of treating their refund like bonus money that can show up whenever.

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I understand that many people depend on their refunds for important expenses. My point wasn't that delays don't matter - it's that they happen every year, and panicking doesn't help. If you absolutely need tax refund money by a certain date, the better long-term solution is to adjust your withholding so you're not giving the government an interest-free loan throughout the year. That way you have access to more of your money in each paycheck rather than waiting for a refund that's subject to processing delays every year.

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Zara Mirza

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Has anyone filed in the last week? I'm still working on my return and wondering if I should just file for an extension instead with all this disruption talk. Really don't want to deal with delays since I'm expecting around $3,400 back.

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NebulaNinja

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I filed last Thursday electronically through TurboTax. My return was accepted by the IRS within an hour, and the Where's My Refund tool is already showing "approved" status. Seems like new submissions are still being processed normally.

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Ava Williams

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Just FYI - if you owed taxes for 2018, you're going to face some pretty significant penalties and interest by now. The failure-to-file penalty is usually 5% of unpaid taxes for each month your return is late, up to 25%. Plus there's failure-to-pay penalties and interest that's been compounding for years. You might want to look into the IRS Fresh Start program or see if you qualify for any penalty abatement. When I had to file several years late, I included a letter explaining my circumstances and requesting penalty relief, and they actually approved it.

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Aisha Patel

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Thanks, that's really good to know. Do you remember what you included in that letter? I'm worried the penalties are going to be more than what I would have owed originally.

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Ava Williams

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I explained the specific circumstances that prevented me from filing on time (in my case, a serious medical condition and related financial hardship). I included whatever documentation I could to support my claim - medical records, hospital bills, etc. For your situation, you might want to explain the timing of your incarceration and why it prevented you from filing. Be specific about dates and why you couldn't arrange for filing while incarcerated. The IRS looks for what they call "reasonable cause" - basically showing that you couldn't comply with tax obligations despite using "ordinary business care and prudence.

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Raj Gupta

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I was in a similar boat but for 2017. You need the actual 2018 tax forms which you can only get from the IRS website now. Print them out and mail them in. Don't forget to sign the return! I forgot and they sent it back to me which delayed everything by like 2 months.

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Lena MΓΌller

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Also make sure you're using the right address to send it! Each state has different processing centers for paper returns. If you google "where to mail paper tax return 2018" plus your state name, you'll find the right address.

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Zainab Mahmoud

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Form 2210 penalties are often waivable if you have a reasonable cause. Some valid reasons include: - Natural disaster affecting your ability to pay - Death or serious illness - Unavoidable absence - Fire, casualty or disaster - First time penalty abatement if you have a clean compliance history If any of these apply to you, make sure to include a statement explaining your situation. Many people just pay the penalty without realizing they could get it waived!

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Ava Williams

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Does anyone know if changing jobs mid-year counts as reasonable cause? I switched employers in August and my withholding got all messed up even though I submitted a new W-4 right away.

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Zainab Mahmoud

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A job change by itself typically doesn't qualify as reasonable cause for penalty abatement. The IRS expects you to adjust your withholding or make estimated payments to cover any shortfall. However, if there were unusual circumstances beyond your control with the new employer's payroll system, or if you requested proper withholding but they made errors, that could potentially qualify. The key is whether the situation was truly beyond your control despite taking reasonable steps to comply with tax requirements.

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Raj Gupta

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wait i'm confused about something basic here... does everyone have to file this form 2210 thing or only if you didn't pay enough throughout the year??? my tax software never mentioned this form at all.

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LilMama23

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You only need to file Form 2210 if you didn't pay enough tax throughout the year via withholding or estimated payments. If your software didn't bring it up, you're probably fine! The form is specifically for calculating penalties for underpayment of estimated taxes. Most W-2 employees with proper withholding never see this form because their employers withhold taxes evenly throughout the year. It's more common for self-employed people, those with investment income, or people who had a change in income during the year.

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State Audit for 2020 Tax Year - Should I Pay or File an Amended Return?

I just got hit with a state audit assessment notice back in December and I'm freaking out a bit. When I first got the notice, I sent back my 1098T form showing my college tuition payments and scholarship info like someone at the state DOR told me to do. But now in February, I got another notice saying I still owe about $700 including over $130 in penalties and interest (which is even higher now a month later). I called and talked to the person reviewing my case, and she said my deductions were way too high. On my original filing, I had claimed around $14k in deductions based on a reported $21k income. But looking at my 1098T, after scholarships, I only paid about $2,500 in actual tuition that year, so I should've only had a $2,500 deduction, not $14k. Here's the thing though - I'm pretty sure my reported income is wrong too. I was only working part-time during college for a few months and made like $2,500 that year. Someone else prepared my taxes (a family friend), and they told me that some of my scholarships were probably counted as income, but I think that's wrong since everything went directly to required tuition. The auditor said I could amend my return, but warned that it could take forever for processing. I feel like it's super unfair to pay $700 in taxes when I barely made any money as a broke college student. But I'm also scared about the penalties and interest continuing to grow. Should I just pay it now and then wait for the amended return to process? If my amendment gets accepted, would I get refunded what I paid to the state DOR? Update: I ended up paying it 😩 but still wondering if I should amend!

Brian Downey

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Question about the scholarship tax rules - if the scholarship money went to tuition but you ALSO claimed an education credit (like American Opportunity Credit), isn't that double-dipping? My tax preparer told me you can't claim expenses as education credits if they were paid with tax-free scholarship funds.

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Jacinda Yu

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You're exactly right, and that might be part of OP's problem. You can't claim education credits for expenses that were covered by tax-free scholarships. It's one or the other. Many tax preparers get this wrong, especially when they don't specialize in education-related tax situations. When I was in school, I actually chose to count some of my scholarship as taxable income so I could claim the education credits, which were worth more to me than the tax I paid on that portion of the scholarship. Tax planning is wild!

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Brian Downey

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Thanks for confirming! That makes sense. I think I need to look closer at my own returns now, since I had both scholarships and education credits. Any idea how far back the IRS typically looks when they find this kind of error? Just wondering if I should proactively amend older returns too.

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Landon Flounder

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Has anyone had state audit issues resolve faster by calling vs. mailing documents? I'm in a similar situation but with 1099 income that was reported incorrectly, and I can't tell if I should keep trying to call or just mail everything in.

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Callum Savage

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ALWAYS call first, then follow up with mail. When you call, get the name and ID number of whoever you speak with, and ask them what specific documentation they need. Then mail those exact documents with a cover letter referencing your call and who you spoke with. I've gone through 3 state audits (self-employed) and this approach has consistently worked best.

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Landon Flounder

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That's super helpful advice, thank you! Never thought to ask for an ID number but that makes total sense. Did you send things certified mail too or is regular mail sufficient?

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