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Has anyone considered a Transfer on Death (TOD) arrangement instead? It's similar to naming a beneficiary but specifically designed for brokerage accounts. I set this up for my grandkids last year and my financial advisor said it accomplishes the same step up basis benefit while being slightly more straightforward for brokerage accounts specifically.
How difficult was it to set up the TOD? Does it offer any advantages over just naming them as regular beneficiaries? I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible while still maximizing the tax benefits.
Setting up the TOD was extremely simple - just a form from my brokerage firm that took maybe 10 minutes to complete. The main advantage is that it's specifically designed for investment accounts and creates a cleaner transfer process. The TOD designation accomplishes essentially the same thing as a regular beneficiary designation, but it can sometimes process more quickly after death and avoids probate. Both methods will give your grandkids the full step up basis benefit. One thing to note - if you have multiple grandchildren and want to specify different percentages or specific assets going to specific grandchildren, the TOD forms typically allow for that level of detail.
Whatever you do, DON'T set up an UTMA/UGMA account like I did before understanding the tax implications. When my grandkids turned 18, they got full control of the money (one bought a car, the other took a trip to Europe), AND the gains during all those years were taxed at my higher rate because of the kiddie tax. Complete disaster compared to the step up basis approach you're considering.
Yeah, the UTMA/UGMA accounts are terrible for tax efficiency compared to getting the step up basis. My brother went that route and regretted it. Did you consider a trust at all? I've heard revocable living trusts can provide the step up basis while also giving you more control over when/how the kids get the money.
Don't forget about the other benefits of claiming your college student as a dependent! If you meet the tests, you could qualify for: 1) Head of Household status (better tax rates than single) 2) AOTC or Lifetime Learning credit for education expenses 3) Higher income limits for certain deductions 4) Possibly child tax credit if they're under 17 for part of the year But remember your child can't claim their own exemption if you claim them as a dependent. My son and I actually calculate it both ways each year to see which saves our family more in total.
For the education credits, if I'm claiming my daughter as a dependent, do I have to be the one who claims the education credit even if she paid some of her tuition herself from her 529 plan?
Yes, if you claim your daughter as a dependent, you're the only one who can claim the education credits for her - even if she paid some expenses herself. The person who claims the dependent gets the education credits, period. However, for 529 plan withdrawals, they need to be coordinated with education credits. You can't claim expenses paid with tax-free 529 funds for the education credit (that would be double-dipping). So you'd want to document which portion of the tuition was paid from taxable funds versus 529 funds.
The qualifying child tests can be confusing! Here's what helped me figure it out for my college kid: Relationship: Your child, stepchild, foster child, sibling, or descendant of any of these Age: Under 19 OR under 24 and full-time student for at least 5 months of the year Residency: Lived with you for more than half the year (temporary absences for education count as time living with you) Support: Child didn't provide more than half of their own support Joint Return: Child isn't filing a joint return (unless it's just to claim a refund) The tricky part for college students is calculating "support" - scholarships don't count as the student providing their own support!
In addition to what others have mentioned, check if you accidentally claimed any education credits that F1 students aren't eligible for. When I used TurboTax my first year, it automatically tried to give me the American Opportunity Credit, which nonresident aliens can't claim. This resulted in an incorrect calculation showing I owed much less than I actually did (and would have resulted in an audit later). Also, ask your international student office if they have free access to any tax preparation software specifically for international students. My university partners with a service that's free for us and understands all the special rules for F1 visas.
Thanks for mentioning this! I just checked and I did see something about education credits in my tax software that might have been wrong. Would claiming incorrect credits cause me to owe more or less though? I'm confused about why this would make my tax bill higher.
If you're seeing a high tax bill, it's likely NOT because you claimed education credits incorrectly - those would actually reduce your tax liability improperly. It's more likely that your tax bill is high because you're not getting the standard deduction that US residents get, and your withholding was too low throughout the year. But it's still important to make sure you're not claiming credits you're not eligible for, as that could trigger an audit later, even if it temporarily shows a lower tax bill. The correct approach is to make sure you're filing as a nonresident alien (Form 1040-NR), checking for tax treaty benefits from your home country, and making sure you're not claiming deductions or credits that only residents can claim.
I went through this exact same thing last year! What country are you from? That makes a huge difference because of tax treaties. I'm from India and there's a specific provision for students that reduced my taxable income significantly. Also, check your state tax situation too. Some states like California and New York tax nonresidents pretty heavily, while others are more lenient with F1 students.
18 Just to add another perspective - the support test is what matters here, not income. My daughter made almost $50k last year at 17 from her online business, but since she wasn't using that money for her own support (most went to college savings), we still claimed her as dependent. We documented everything carefully just in case of audit. Make sure your daughter's employer is withholding correctly. Child performers sometimes have special rules depending on your state, and some states require part of their earnings to go into a protected account (similar to the "Coogan Law" in California).
3 Did you have to fill out any special forms to document the support calculation? I've been trying to figure out if there's an official worksheet or something for this. My son made about $32k from gaming tournaments this year.
18 There's no specific IRS form for the support calculation, but I created a simple spreadsheet showing the total cost of my daughter's support (housing, food, education, medical, clothing, etc.) and what portion I paid versus what was paid from her earnings. I kept receipts for major expenses just in case. For your son's gaming tournaments, make sure you understand if they're considered prizes/awards (reported on Line 8 of Schedule 1) or self-employment income (Schedule C) - they're treated differently for tax purposes. In my daughter's case, her online business income required Schedule C and self-employment tax, which was a big surprise our first year dealing with it.
14 Has anyone dealt with the kiddie tax in this situation? I've heard if your child has unearned income (interest, dividends, etc.) over a certain amount, it gets taxed at the parent's rate. Is that something to worry about with high-earning child performers?
7 Good question! The kiddie tax only applies to unearned income (investment income, interest, dividends, capital gains) - not to earned income like modeling or acting wages. If your child performer is just earning wages, the kiddie tax doesn't apply at all. However, if they're earning enough that you're investing some of that money and generating significant investment income, then the kiddie tax could come into play. For 2024, the first $1,250 of unearned income is tax-free, the next $1,250 is taxed at the child's rate, and anything above $2,500 in unearned income would be taxed at the parent's rate.
Savannah Weiner
This happened to me a couple years ago. Check if your employer correctly adjusted your tax withholding after your raise. Mine didn't, and I got hit with a huge bill. The higher your income goes, the more you need to pay attention to withholding. I'd recommend filling out a new W-4 form and submitting it to your HR department ASAP so this doesn't happen again next year. You might even want to add a little extra withholding to cover the difference.
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Levi Parker
β’Is there some calculator you can use to figure out the right withholding amount? I always struggle with this and either get a huge refund or end up owing.
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Savannah Weiner
β’Yes, the IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator on their website that's pretty accurate. Just google "IRS withholding calculator" and it should be the first result. You'll need your most recent pay stub and tax return handy when you use it. The calculator will tell you exactly how to fill out your W-4 based on your specific situation. It even lets you adjust whether you want a bigger refund or more money in each paycheck. I use it every time I get a raise or my life circumstances change, and it's kept my tax bill/refund pretty balanced.
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Libby Hassan
Have you looked at the actual tax brackets for both years? With $202k income for married filing jointly, part of your income is definitely getting taxed at 24% now. The difference between 22% and 24% brackets might not seem like much, but applied to thousands of dollars it adds up fast. Also check your pay stubs to see if your employer is withholding at the correct rate. Sometimes payroll systems don't automatically adjust withholding when you get promoted.
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Hunter Hampton
β’Exactly this. I work in payroll and see this all the time. Payroll systems calculate withholding based on the assumption that each check is what you'll make all year. So if you get a raise midyear, the system doesn't know about your previous lower income months and doesn't withhold enough.
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Libby Hassan
β’That's a great point about midyear raises. The payroll system treats each check as if you've been making that amount all year, which can lead to significant underwithholding. This is especially true for bonuses or people who get promoted partway through the tax year.
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