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Caden Nguyen

Can a self-employed person claim paying themselves as a deduction on their taxes?

So I've been running my tabletop RPG business for about two years now (I host paid D&D sessions and design custom campaigns). After filing taxes this spring, I was shocked at how much I owed! Talking to my cousin who runs his own plumbing business, he asked if I was "paying myself" from my business income. I was confused because I just take whatever money comes in and use it personally after expenses. He insisted I could "pay myself" and somehow deduct that from my business taxes. Is this actually a legitimate thing for self-employed people? I'm not sure if he's confused or if I'm missing out on a huge tax benefit. How would this even work with a single-person business where all the money just goes into my personal account anyway?

Avery Flores

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This is a common misunderstanding! As a self-employed person (sole proprietor), you can't "pay yourself" a salary and deduct it as a business expense. The business profit IS your income. What your cousin might be referring to is setting up an S-Corporation instead of operating as a sole proprietor. With an S-Corp, you'd pay yourself a "reasonable salary" which is subject to self-employment taxes (Social Security and Medicare), but then additional profits can be taken as distributions which aren't subject to SE tax. This can save money, but comes with more paperwork, costs for payroll, and additional tax filings. For your D&D business as a sole proprietor, you report all income on Schedule C, deduct legitimate business expenses (materials, props, venue costs, etc.), and the remaining profit is your personal income that goes on your 1040. You can't deduct money you pay yourself - that's the profit.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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If I make the switch to an S-Corp, how much would I have to be making for it to be worth all the extra hassle? Also, do you have to pay yourself on a regular schedule or can you do it randomly?

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Avery Flores

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The general rule of thumb is that S-Corps start making financial sense when you're netting around $40,000-$50,000 in profit annually. Below that, the costs of maintaining the corporation (annual filing fees, accounting costs, payroll processing) often outweigh the tax savings. For S-Corp salary payments, you should establish a regular, reasonable salary and stick to a consistent payment schedule (weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly typically). Random payments would be a red flag to the IRS, as they want to see you treating yourself as a legitimate employee. The distributions (the non-salary profit payments) can be taken more irregularly based on cash flow.

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Ashley Adams

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Noah Torres

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Just to add another perspective: I run a TTRPGing business similar to yours, and I did actually set up an LLC taxed as an S-corp because my income got high enough. I pay myself a salary of $3,500/month which is "reasonable" for a TTRPG creator in my area, and then take distributions for the rest. The paperwork is a pain and I pay about $1,200/year for a bookkeeper to handle the quarterly filings, but I'm saving around $7,400/year in self-employment taxes. If you're making under $40k profit, stick with sole proprietor and focus on maximizing your deductions instead.

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Samantha Hall

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How did you determine what's a "reasonable" salary for a DM? I didn't think there was enough data for that kind of job to establish market rates.

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Noah Torres

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I researched what other professional DMs and TTRPG content creators charge hourly in my area and nationwide, then calculated what a full-time equivalent would earn. I also looked at similar creative professionals like game designers and tabletop gaming store managers. I documented all this research in case of an audit. The key is having a methodology that shows you didn't just pick a low number to avoid taxes. My CPA helped me gather comparable profession data that would stand up to scrutiny. With niche professions like ours, you need to get creative with finding salary comparisons, but there's actually more data out there than you might think now that professional DMing has grown as a career.

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Ryan Young

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Don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments if you're self-employed! I learned this the hard way with my editing business last year - got hit with a $420 penalty because I waited until April to pay everything.

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Sophia Clark

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How do you even calculate how much to pay quarterly when your income fluctuates month to month? My crafting business is super seasonal and I have no idea what I'll make until I make it.

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