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Ravi Patel

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I actually tried taking loans from my S-Corp last year and got hammered in an audit. Here's what I learned the hard way: If you don't document everything properly with actual loan agreements, repayment schedules, and market-rate interest, the IRS WILL reclassify it as a distribution or compensation. In my case, they treated it as a distribution which meant I had to pay taxes on it anyway, PLUS a penalty for not reporting it correctly. For S-Corps specifically, you also need to be careful about maintaining reasonable compensation before taking any distributions or loans. My mistake was trying to take a "loan" while not paying myself a market salary. Don't mess around with this - do it right or don't do it at all.

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What about for a single-member LLC? Are the rules any different since it's a disregarded entity for tax purposes? Could I take loans from my business more easily?

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Ravi Patel

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For a single-member LLC that's a disregarded entity, the situation is actually quite different. Since a disregarded entity is treated as the same taxpayer as you for federal tax purposes, technically you can't loan money to yourself - it would be like taking money from one pocket and putting it in another. The business funds are already considered your funds from a tax perspective, so there's no tax advantage to structuring withdrawals as loans. You're already being taxed on the business profits regardless of whether you withdraw the money or not (via Schedule C on your personal return). That said, for proper bookkeeping and to maintain the liability protection of your LLC, you should still document any personal withdrawals properly. If you're mixing business and personal funds without documentation, you risk piercing the corporate veil in legal situations.

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PixelPrincess

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Wait I'm confused. So what about these "buy, borrow, die" strategies that billionaires use? Is that completely different from taking money from your business?

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Omar Farouk

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Completely different. The billionaire strategy works because they're borrowing from a third party (bank or broker) using assets as collateral. They're not taking money directly from their companies without taxation. When Musk or Bezos get liquidity, they either: 1) Take loans from banks using their stock as collateral (legitimate third-party loans), 2) Sell shares and pay capital gains tax, or 3) Receive salaries/compensation that are taxed as income. The "loan" from your own business isn't actually a loan in the IRS's eyes unless it meets very specific criteria that most small business owners don't satisfy. Otherwise it's just income/distribution with extra steps.

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Pro tip: If you're getting stuck in the TurboTax interface, try switching browsers or using incognito mode. I had this exact same issue where direct deposit and payment plan options weren't showing up. Turns out my browser extensions were interfering with some elements on the page. Switched to Edge (which I never use) and suddenly all payment options appeared!

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Kaitlyn Otto

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Really? What browser extensions would cause that? I'm using Chrome with adblock and a few others. Could that be why I'm only seeing credit card options too?

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I think it was my ad blocker causing the issue. It was blocking some elements on the TurboTax payment page. I'm not 100% sure which extension was the culprit, but when I tried in Edge with no extensions, everything loaded properly. Another possibility is to try clearing your cache and cookies for the TurboTax site. Sometimes data from previous sessions can cause weird display issues.

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Axel Far

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Has anyone tried calling TurboTax support directly? I had this problem and called them - turns out there's a glitch in their system that sometimes doesn't display all payment options depending on how you answer previous questions in the tax interview. The rep had me go back and change my answer to the question about "how do you plan to pay your taxes" much earlier in the process, then the direct payment option finally showed up.

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How long did you have to wait on hold? I tried calling TurboTax last week about a different issue and gave up after 45 mins on hold.

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Brady Clean

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Just a reminder that if you're going to amend your 2020 return, make sure the business expenses you're adding are legitimately deductible. The IRS has been increasing scrutiny on Schedule C deductions lately, especially for tax years 2019-2021 because of all the COVID relief programs. Things like home office deductions, vehicle expenses, and meals/entertainment are particular audit triggers if they seem disproportionate to your business income. Not saying don't claim what you're entitled to - just make sure you have good documentation to back it up!

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Ella Harper

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That's a good point! All of these expenses are legitimate photography equipment (new lenses, lighting, a laptop used only for editing) and documented travel to shooting locations. My business income that year was around $36,000 so the $7,800 in additional expenses isn't out of proportion. Do you think that's going to raise any red flags?

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Brady Clean

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Those expenses sound reasonable given your business type and income level. Photography equipment is clearly a necessary business expense, and as long as your travel was primarily for business purposes and you have documentation (like client contracts showing shoots on those dates), you should be fine. The $7,800 compared to $36,000 in income is a perfectly reasonable ratio for a photography business, which typically has higher equipment costs. Just make sure to categorize everything correctly on your Schedule C - put the equipment under "Equipment" not "Supplies" if it's over $2,500 per item and will last more than a year (might need to be depreciated rather than fully expensed, depending on whether you took Section 179 or bonus depreciation).

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Skylar Neal

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Has anyone here experienced an adjustment to their refund amount when amending? I filed an amended return for 2020 because I forgot some 1099 income (opposite problem from OP) and the IRS ended up changing the amount I calculated. Just wondering if this is common.

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Yes! This happened to me. I amended to add some business expenses like OP is planning to do, calculated I was due about $1,300 back, but the IRS sent me $1,467. The difference was interest they added because of how long it took them to process the amendment.

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Monique Byrd

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5 Quick question - I'm in a similar situation but my missing W2 is from 2020, not 2021. Am I completely out of luck for fixing this? I think I read somewhere there's a 3-year limit on amendments?

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Monique Byrd

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8 You're right about the 3-year limit, but you're still within the window for 2020! The deadline for filing amendments to claim a refund is 3 years from the original due date of the return. For 2020 tax returns, the original filing deadline was May 17, 2021 (it was extended that year due to COVID). That means you have until May 17, 2024 to file an amended return and claim any additional refund. So you should act quickly, but you definitely still have time to file that amendment.

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Monique Byrd

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5 Thank you so much for clarifying this! I was worried I'd missed my window completely. I'll get on this amendment right away before the May deadline hits. Really appreciate the help!

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Monique Byrd

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23 Does anyone know if the IRS will contact you if they notice a missing W2? I'm asking because I just got a letter saying I underreported income, but I thought I included everything on my 2022 return.

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Monique Byrd

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10 Yes, the IRS definitely will send you a notice if they identify underreported income. They run an automated matching program where they compare the income reported on your tax return against what was reported to them by employers, banks, etc. The letter you received is probably a CP2000 Notice, which is not an audit but a proposed adjustment to your tax return based on this information matching.

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Jacob Lee

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Your dad is probably confused about who owes what. With below-market loans, it's the LENDER (your dad) who would potentially have tax implications, not you as the borrower. And as others have mentioned, loans under $10K are generally exempt anyway. What might be happening is your dad reported this loan on his taxes (which he didn't need to do for this amount), and now thinks you need to pay the tax. Or he might be trying to retroactively charge you interest by calling it a "tax." Either way, you should ask him to show you exactly what tax form or notice he's referring to. If he can't produce anything official from the IRS, that's a red flag.

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Could it be that the dad is thinking about the gift tax? Like maybe he's thinking that since he didn't charge interest, it counts as a gift and he has to pay gift tax on it?

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Jacob Lee

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You're on the right track. In theory, the forgone interest on an interest-free loan can be considered a gift from the lender to the borrower. But there are two important points here: First, the annual gift tax exclusion is $17,000 per person (in 2023), so the imputed interest on a $9,500 loan would be well below that threshold. Second, even if it were above the threshold, it would just require reporting on a gift tax return - actual gift tax typically wouldn't be owed until someone gives away millions over their lifetime. So either way, there shouldn't be any actual tax payment required. The dad might be confused about these concepts or might be trying to retroactively charge interest and calling it a "tax" to make it seem official.

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Just to add a different perspective - could this be a misunderstanding about state taxes? Some states have different rules about personal loans. I got hit with a surprise tax in New Jersey when I loaned money to my cousin, even though it was below federal thresholds. Might be worth asking your dad specifically which tax form or rule he's referring to. If he's actually received tax documentation about this, ask to see it.

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Daniela Rossi

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That's interesting! Which states have different rules? I'm in California and planning to loan money to my sister for her down payment, so now I'm worried!

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