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Do I owe imputed interest tax on a no-interest loan from my father in 2023? Never heard of this before!

So I have this weird situation with my dad who loaned me about $9,500 last year (2023). I've paid most of it back and still owed about $5,400 at the end of the year. Now he's telling me I owe him money for something called "imputed interest tax" because he didn't charge me any interest on the loan. I'm completely confused because I've never heard of this in my life! When I looked it up online, I couldn't find anything that suggests a loan this size would trigger any tax issues. The amount he's saying I owe is somewhere between $70-$1,800 (he wasn't super clear on the exact amount, but I think he's saying around $70). I'm starting to wonder if my dad is making this up or misunderstanding something. He's pretty well-off financially - has investment income, rental properties, the whole deal. I've borrowed money from friends before and loaned money to others, and nobody ever mentioned this "imputed interest" thing. Is this a real tax thing? Does it only apply to wealthy people with investment income? Or is my dad confused/trying to get extra money from me? Any help understanding this would be great!

Grace Patel

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This is actually a real thing, but there's some nuance here. What you're talking about is called "imputed interest" under the IRS's below-market loan rules. Basically, when someone (like your dad) gives an interest-free loan, the IRS treats it as if interest was actually charged at what they call the "applicable federal rate" (AFR). The thing is, YOU don't owe this tax - your dad would. When someone makes an interest-free loan, the IRS considers the "missing interest" as a gift to the borrower, and the lender (your dad) is responsible for reporting the imputed interest as income on his taxes. However, there are exceptions! Loans under $10,000 are generally exempt from these rules as long as tax avoidance isn't the main purpose. Since your loan was $9,500, it would typically fall under this exemption. The only way this makes sense is if your dad is asking you to help cover the tax he had to pay on the "phantom interest" he never actually received from you. But even that is odd since the loan amount is below the threshold where this typically applies.

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ApolloJackson

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Wait I'm confused. So the dad would owe taxes on interest he didn't actually receive? That seems really weird. And if the loan is under $10k, why would this even be an issue? Is there a different threshold for family members or something?

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Grace Patel

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The IRS does consider interest you should have received (but didn't) as taxable in certain situations. This prevents people from disguising income or gifts as "loans" to avoid taxes. There are actually a few exceptions to the below-market loan rules. The $10,000 threshold generally applies regardless of family relationship, but there's a key detail - this exemption doesn't apply if the loan's main purpose was tax avoidance. Also, if the father has significant investment income, different rules might come into play since the IRS pays special attention to investment-related transactions.

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Rajiv Kumar

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Just wanted to follow up after checking out taxr.ai that someone mentioned here. I was pretty skeptical, but it actually cleared up my whole situation with imputed interest. Turns out my parents' loan to me DID have imputed interest implications, but not in the way they thought. The tool showed that since they were charging me 0% when the AFR (applicable federal rate) was 3.5%, there was technically imputed interest, but it fell under the annual gift tax exclusion. The documentation it provided helped me explain everything to my parents with actual tax code references. Saved me from paying "tax" that wasn't actually required. If your dad is genuinely confused (not trying to scam you), having something official to show him might help clear things up.

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Ava Harris

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Jacob Lee

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Your dad is probably confused about who owes what. With below-market loans, it's the LENDER (your dad) who would potentially have tax implications, not you as the borrower. And as others have mentioned, loans under $10K are generally exempt anyway. What might be happening is your dad reported this loan on his taxes (which he didn't need to do for this amount), and now thinks you need to pay the tax. Or he might be trying to retroactively charge you interest by calling it a "tax." Either way, you should ask him to show you exactly what tax form or notice he's referring to. If he can't produce anything official from the IRS, that's a red flag.

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Could it be that the dad is thinking about the gift tax? Like maybe he's thinking that since he didn't charge interest, it counts as a gift and he has to pay gift tax on it?

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Jacob Lee

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You're on the right track. In theory, the forgone interest on an interest-free loan can be considered a gift from the lender to the borrower. But there are two important points here: First, the annual gift tax exclusion is $17,000 per person (in 2023), so the imputed interest on a $9,500 loan would be well below that threshold. Second, even if it were above the threshold, it would just require reporting on a gift tax return - actual gift tax typically wouldn't be owed until someone gives away millions over their lifetime. So either way, there shouldn't be any actual tax payment required. The dad might be confused about these concepts or might be trying to retroactively charge interest and calling it a "tax" to make it seem official.

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Just to add a different perspective - could this be a misunderstanding about state taxes? Some states have different rules about personal loans. I got hit with a surprise tax in New Jersey when I loaned money to my cousin, even though it was below federal thresholds. Might be worth asking your dad specifically which tax form or rule he's referring to. If he's actually received tax documentation about this, ask to see it.

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Daniela Rossi

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That's interesting! Which states have different rules? I'm in California and planning to loan money to my sister for her down payment, so now I'm worried!

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