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I was trying to make an early estimated tax payment for 2021 through payusatax.com, but I'm hitting a wall here. I can only see the option for 2020 1040-ES payments. Has anyone been able to find the 2021 payment option yet? I wanted to get ahead of my Q1 estimated payment due in April, but looks like the 2021 payment vouchers aren't available yet on the site. Does anyone know if they'll be adding the 2021 option on January 15th? Or do I need to wait until after that date before I can make my first quarter 2021 estimated payment through their system? It's frustrating because I'm trying to be proactive with my taxes this year since my freelance income increased quite a bit in the last quarter.
So I've been dealing with some complex tax issues this year and have talked to a couple different tax "experts" - one was a CPA at a mid-sized firm and another was a tax preparer at one of those national chains. When they gave me advice about some deductions I was considering, I asked them to point me to the actual tax code or IRS publications that supported what they were saying. Both seemed kind of annoyed by this. One just vaguely referenced "IRS regulations" without specifics and the other said something like "this is standard practice based on my 12 years of experience." I get really suspicious when professionals can't back up their claims with actual legal citations. Am I being unreasonable here? Is it normal to expect tax professionals to be able to cite the relevant sections of tax code or IRS publications when giving advice? Or am I being "that client" that everyone hates?
I'm a retired accountant, and I think it's absolutely reasonable to ask for citations, but there's an important distinction to make: tax professionals should know THE PRINCIPLES behind tax law and where to find citations, rather than having every code section memorized. For example, when a client asks me about the home office deduction, I should know the general rules (exclusive use, regular use, principal place of business) and be able to say "that's covered in Publication 587 and Section 280A of the tax code." I might need to look up the exact citation, but I should know where to point you. What raises red flags is when someone gets defensive or dismissive when asked for support. Good tax pros welcome these questions because they want you to understand and be comfortable with their advice.
That makes sense! So it's not that they need to have the exact code section memorized, but they should be able to tell you generally where to find the information or be willing to look it up for you. Is there a polite way to phrase this kind of request without seeming like I'm challenging their expertise?
I've found the best approach is to frame it as wanting to understand for your own knowledge rather than challenging their expertise. Try saying something like: "This is interesting - could you point me to the IRS publication or tax code section where I could read more about this? I'd like to understand the details better." Most professionals respond well to curiosity. If they still get defensive, that's actually valuable information about whether this is someone you want to work with. A good tax professional should appreciate a client who wants to be informed rather than just taking everything at face value.
Adding to this discussion - I've learned that there's a huge difference between tax preparers and actual tax attorneys when it comes to citations. Tax attorneys literally live and breathe by citations since they often have to defend positions in court or to the IRS. My regular tax preparer at H&R Block couldn't cite anything specific when I asked about some S-corp questions, but when I went to a tax attorney for a second opinion, she immediately pulled up multiple court cases and revenue rulings that addressed my situation. She even emailed me a summary with all the citations afterward.
That's because there's a HUGE difference in qualifications. H&R Block "professionals" often just take a 10-week course. Tax attorneys have law degrees plus specialized tax training. You get what you pay for.
I've always used our CPA to file our state and federal taxes, but his fees have gotten ridiculous lately and we're looking to try filing ourselves this year. I've heard TurboTax is the best option for DIY filing online. Our situation is fairly complex - we have two W2s, several children, we're homeowners, and we manage about 6 different brokerage accounts. We pay quarterly estimated taxes (1099-EST). No other income sources or properties. We need to file both federal and state returns. I'm specifically curious about the TurboTax Live assisted option. How does it actually work? Is it any good? Can you ask their experts questions directly, and are these experts actually CPAs? Also wondering about the investment stuff - do I need to manually enter each 1099-INT and 1099-DIV from our brokerage accounts, or can TurboTax import them directly from major firms? Anyone have experience with this? Would appreciate any insight before tax season hits!
I've used TurboTax Live for 3 years now, and it's decent but has some limitations. For importing brokerage accounts - yes, they connect with major firms, but crypto transactions and more complex investments sometimes have issues. The CPAs vary wildly in quality - I've had amazing experts who found deductions I never knew about, and others who seemed barely more knowledgeable than me. Pro tip: if you don't like the expert you're matched with, you can disconnect and try again for a different one. For quarterly estimated payments, make sure you have the exact dates and amounts handy - TurboTax can be picky about matching those precisely to IRS records.
What about state taxes? I have to file in two states and always struggle with that part. Does TurboTax Live handle multi-state filing well?
TurboTax handles multi-state filing pretty well actually. I've filed in both California and Arizona for several years because of a rental property, and the software walks you through it step by step. The Live experts are particularly helpful with state-specific questions since tax laws vary so much between states. Just make sure you select the multi-state option early in the process. It costs a bit more, but it's way cheaper than having a CPA handle multiple state returns.
Has anyone used H&R Block's live tax pro option? I'm trying to decide between that and TurboTax for a similar situation (W2s, investments, home ownership).
Hey everyone! So I'm trying to plan ahead for the upcoming tax season and was wondering if anyone knows when the earliest date to file taxes will be for the 2025 filing season? I usually try to get mine done ASAP to get my refund quickly (fingers crossed for one this year lol). Last year I filed pretty early but still had to wait forever for my refund. I'm also wondering when they'll actually start accepting payments if I end up owing instead of getting a refund this time. My situation changed a bit with a new job and I'm worried I might not have had enough withheld. Has the IRS announced anything official yet about when they'll start accepting returns? And does anyone know if there are advantages to filing right at the beginning vs waiting a bit? Thanks in advance for any info!
From what I've heard, the filing season opening date is expected to be January 27th, 2025, but that's just based on previous years' patterns. The IRS usually makes the official announcement in early January. One thing to keep in mind - even if you file on the first day, refunds that include Earned Income Tax Credit or Additional Child Tax Credit won't be issued until mid-February due to the PATH Act requirements. So if you're claiming either of those credits, filing super early won't actually get your refund any faster.
Wait seriously? I didn't know about that delay for EITC. Is there any way around it if I really need my refund ASAP?
Unfortunately there's no way around the EITC/ACTC delay - it's mandated by law through the PATH Act to allow the IRS time to verify claims and reduce fraudulent refunds. Even if you file on the first possible day, the IRS is prohibited from issuing refunds containing those credits before mid-February. If you really need funds quickly, you might consider adjusting your W-4 with your employer now to reduce withholding for the rest of the year, which would give you more money in your paychecks immediately rather than waiting for a tax refund. Just be careful not to underwithhold and end up owing when you file.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if you use tax software, most companies let you pre-file before the IRS officially opens. You can complete your return, and the company holds it and submits it the moment the IRS system opens. That way you're literally in the first batch processed. I did this last year with TurboTax and got my refund on February 8th, which was pretty quick. Just make sure you have ALL your forms before doing this.
Hey everyone, I'm in a weird situation and need some tax advice. I started a new position at a retail store on December 28th, 2024, and only worked two shifts (Dec 28-29) before the new year. My first paycheck didn't come until January 15th, 2025. I've already received all my other W-2s from my previous jobs in 2024, and I'm getting antsy to file my return and hopefully get my refund. Should I go ahead and file with what I have, or should I be expecting a W-2 from this new job for those two days in December? I'm not sure if there's some minimum threshold or if they'd just include those days on my 2025 W-2 next year. Thanks for any help!
Another option - if you know roughly how much you earned those two days, you could always file now using your best estimate, then amend later if needed when the W-2 arrives. Not ideal but if you really need that refund ASAP it's technically an option.
Has anyone noticed that employers seem to be taking longer and longer to send W-2s each year? I swear they all wait until the absolute last minute on January 31st now, sometimes even later. Making us all wait to file is so frustrating.
Grace Thomas
I've been using payusatax for years and they consistently don't update their forms until about a week AFTER the official release date. So even if the IRS releases the 2021 stuff on January 15th, don't be surprised if payusatax doesn't have it until the 20th or so. If you're in a rush, you might want to use IRS Direct Pay instead since it updates faster. Just make absolutely sure you select "2021" as the tax year and "1040-ES" as the payment type or it'll get applied to the wrong account.
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Hunter Brighton
Do you know if there's any disadvantage to using Direct Pay instead of payusatax? Is one better for record-keeping or anything?
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Grace Thomas
Direct Pay gives you a confirmation number and email receipt just like payusatax does, so the record-keeping is pretty much the same. The main difference is that Direct Pay is completely free while payusatax charges a processing fee. The one downside to Direct Pay is that you can't use a credit card - it has to come directly from your bank account. So if you're trying to get credit card points, you'd need to use payusatax or one of the other third-party processors that accept cards (though they charge an even higher fee for credit card transactions).
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Dylan Baskin
Does anybody know if the payment date is considered the date you submit the payment or the date it's processed? I need this payment to count for 2021 Q1 but don't want it accidentally applied to 2020.
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Lauren Wood
The IRS counts the payment date as the day you submit it, not when they process it. So as long as you select "2021" and "1040-ES" when making the payment, you'll be fine. I made this mistake last year - selected the wrong tax year and had to spend hours sorting it out. Double check the tax year selection before submitting!
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Dylan Baskin
Thanks for clarifying! That's a relief to know it's based on submission date. I'll definitely double-check the year selection when I submit.
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