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So I'm in a bit of a pickle and really need some advice. I run a small graphic design LLC, and my husband is a disabled veteran. In the past, my business income has been pretty modest - just made around $7k in profit this year after all my deductions. I've always wondered about the right way to file, and this morning I tried to file just my business taxes separately through one of those online systems. They wanted $320 to file! Then I got curious and checked what would happen if I filed everything together with our personal taxes, and it said we'd owe $1,100. I'm honestly freaking out a bit. We live on a pretty tight budget with my husband's benefits and my small business income. I don't have any other job outside my design business. Do I really need to file separately? Why such a huge difference in what we'd owe? Any advice would be really appreciated because I have no idea what the right approach is here.
I just wrapped up my first full year at my new job after finishing grad school and I'm trying to figure out my tax situation. Last year I used FreeTaxUSA for filing since I was still in school with low income, but now my AGI is around $78,500 which puts me above the IRS Free File threshold ($73,000 or less). I also noticed FreeTaxUSA specifically has a lower threshold ($41,000 or less) for their free version. What are my options for e-filing my Federal taxes without spending a fortune? Is there a way to still file electronically for free when over that $73k threshold, or am I stuck with paper forms and snail mail? If I want to stick with FreeTaxUSA since I'm already familiar with it, what would the cost be now that I'm above their free threshold? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
One option nobody has mentioned yet is that many credit unions and community organizations offer free tax prep through VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) programs. The income limit for these is typically higher than the Free File programs - often around $60k for individuals or $120k for joint filers. Check with your local credit union, library, or community center. The volunteers are IRS-certified and it's completely free.
That's good to know about VITA! Unfortunately with my income at $78,500 I'd still be above the threshold you mentioned. Are there any other community programs with higher income limits?
You're right that at $78,500 you'd be above the standard VITA threshold. Some regions have expanded programs with higher limits, but they're not common. At your income level, your most cost-effective option is probably still using a budget tax preparer like FreeTaxUSA, TaxSlayer, or Cash App Taxes. Even though they're not free for you, they're much cheaper than the premium services and offer essentially the same functionality for most straightforward tax situations.
Has anyone tried Cash App Taxes? I heard they offer completely free federal AND state filing with no income limits. I'm nervous about using something linked to a payment app though.
I used Cash App Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax) last year and it worked fine for me. Completely free for both federal and state with no income restrictions. The interface isn't as polished as TurboTax but it gets the job done. Just make sure your tax situation isn't too complex - they don't support some more obscure forms and situations.
So I started using this investment app last year after my cousin recommended it. I was doing a bunch of day trading throughout the year, buying when prices dropped and selling when they went up. Overall I made around $950 in profits, but this came from literally hundreds of separate transactions. Now I'm looking at the tax forms and apparently I'm supposed to list EVERY single stock sale individually? That would take me forever to enter manually - we're talking days of work. I just don't have that kind of time with my work schedule. Is there any shortcut or simplified way to report all these transactions without having to enter them one by one? Any suggestions would be really appreciated!
Another option is to check if your investment app integrates directly with tax software. I use one of the major tax prep programs, and it can automatically import all my trading activity directly from several brokerages. Saves tons of time and reduces the chance of errors.
Which tax software do you use? I usually just use the free online ones but I'm willing to pay for something if it'll make this process easier.
I use TurboTax Premier which is specifically designed for investors. It's not the cheapest option, but it directly imports from most brokerages and handles all the stock transactions automatically. H&R Block's Deluxe + State is another good option that's a bit less expensive and also has import capabilities for many investment platforms. If you want a free option, FreeTaxUSA can handle investments too, but you might need to enter summary information manually rather than direct importing.
Dont forget that if your trades were all done on the same platform, you might be able to use the composite method for reporting. Basically instead of listing each trade, you can group them by category (short-term vs long-term) and just report the totals. Check box 3 on Form 8949 if you're going this route.
I just got a shock when I picked up my tax return from a local tax place. They're saying I owe $4900 in federal taxes still! I made $55,000 through my regular W-2 job and then another $24,000 through a business partnership I'm in. I was responsible and paid $3,000 in estimated tax payments throughout last year, so that means my total federal tax bill is $7,900. When I do the math, that's like 33% tax just on my business income of $24,000. That seems crazy high to me! I filed as single, no dependents, and didn't have any special deductions or anything. I thought self-employment taxes were supposed to be around 15%? Am I missing something here or did they mess up my return? I'm really confused why I'm paying such a high rate on my business income. Any help would be really appreciated because I'm freaking out a bit about this amount.
Another thing you might want to consider is forming an S-Corp instead of operating as a partnership. I switched last year and it's saving me thousands in self-employment taxes. With an S-Corp, you pay yourself a "reasonable salary" which is subject to FICA taxes (like self-employment tax), but then you can take the rest as distributions which aren't subject to self-employment taxes. You still pay income tax on all of it, but avoiding SE tax on part of your business income is huge. There are some additional costs with an S-Corp (more complex tax filing, possible state fees, etc) but at $24k in business income you're right on the edge where it might start making sense.
That's really interesting, I hadn't even thought about changing my business structure. How much does it cost to set up and maintain an S-Corp compared to a partnership? And is there a certain income threshold where it makes sense?
Setting up an S-Corp typically costs between $500-1500 depending on if you do it yourself or hire someone. There are ongoing costs too - you'll need to run payroll (even if just for yourself), which might cost $40-50/month with a service like Gusto, and tax preparation is more expensive (usually $800-1200 for an S-Corp return vs. $300-500 for Schedule C). Generally, the breakeven point is around $30-40k in profit. Below that, the extra costs might outweigh the SE tax savings. Above that, you usually come out ahead. At $24k you're close, but might want to wait until your business income is a bit higher unless you expect significant growth soon.
I was in almost the exact same situation! Made $58k at my job and about $25k from my consulting business. Owed almost $8k total in federal taxes. One thing I discovered - make sure your tax preparer is deducting all legitimate business expenses. I switched to a CPA who specializes in small businesses and she found nearly $5k in deductions my previous preparer missed. Things like part of my internet bill, cell phone, home office, some travel costs, etc. Also, are you making quarterly estimated tax payments? That won't reduce your total tax bill, but it helps spread it out so you don't get hit with one huge bill (and possibly underpayment penalties).
I'm in a mess and need some guidance! So back in 2022, I filed my taxes but apparently I wasn't supposed to get much back (like $50 or something), so instead of direct deposit I chose to roll that amount into my 2023 refund (my mom was helping me and suggested this option). Well, here's where I screwed up - when 2023 came around, I couldn't find my W-2 forms ANYWHERE! I legit turned my place upside down looking for them, but they had completely vanished. I got frustrated and just never filed for 2023. Fast forward to last month, I was moving apartments and guess what I found in a box of random paperwork? Yep, those missing W-2s! So now I'm wondering what's the right way to handle this. Should I somehow combine these with my 2024 tax filing that's coming up, or is there a specific way I need to handle the unfiled 2023 taxes? I've never missed filing before and I'm worried about penalties or something. Really appreciate any advice you can give me on how to fix this mess!
Just a heads up that you can get free tax help through the VITA program if your income is under $60k! They can help with filing previous years too. I volunteered there last year and we helped tons of people in similar situations with unfiled returns.
Where do you find these VITA locations? And do they have appointments or is it just walk-in? I've never filed and have W-2s going back to 2021 ๐ฌ
You can find VITA locations by using the IRS VITA Locator tool on their website or by calling 800-906-9887. Most locations operate by appointment, but some do accept walk-ins depending on volunteer availability. For your situation with multiple unfiled years, I'd definitely recommend making an appointment and specifically mentioning that you have returns for multiple years. Bring all your tax documents for 2021, 2022, and 2023 with you. They can help with all of them, but keep in mind they might need multiple sessions since each year is a separate return. The assistance is completely free as long as your income is within their guidelines!
Has anyone here actually gotten hit with penalties for filing late? I'm in a similar situation (haven't filed 2023) but I'm pretty sure I OWED money so I'm scared to file now.
Yes, unfortunately if you owed taxes, the penalties can add up quickly. There are two main penalties: the failure-to-file penalty (usually 5% of unpaid taxes per month, up to 25%) and the failure-to-pay penalty (usually 0.5% per month). Plus, interest accumulates on both the unpaid tax and penalties.
Khalid Howes
As someone who's been filing LLC taxes for 5 years now, here's the simple answer: your LLC is probably set up as a pass-through entity (the default) so all business income "passes through" to your personal return. You file Schedule C with your 1040. The $320 fee is just the tax software charging you for their business features. The actual tax amount difference is interesting though - with only $7k in profit, your tax bill shouldn't be that high. Make sure you're accounting for: 1) Self-employment tax (15.3% on your profit) 2) Any estimated tax payments you might have made 3) Proper deductions for business expenses
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Amun-Ra Azra
AuthorThank you for this breakdown! I think I'm confused about the self-employment tax part. So even though my profit is below the standard deduction, I still have to pay the 15.3% on my $7k business income? That would explain a lot of the tax bill I'm seeing.
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Khalid Howes
Yes, that's exactly right! This is the part that surprises many small business owners. The standard deduction ($12,950 for single filers in 2022, higher for 2023) only applies to income tax, not self-employment tax. Self-employment tax (which covers Social Security and Medicare) applies to net business income over $400, regardless of your other income or filing status. So with $7,000 in profit, you would owe self-employment tax on that amount (approximately $989 at the 15.3% rate) even if you owe zero income tax due to the standard deduction.
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Ben Cooper
Have you considered filing as an S-Corp instead of a single-member LLC? Once your business starts making more money, it can save you a lot on self-employment taxes. You'd pay yourself a reasonable salary (which is subject to employment taxes) and then take the rest as a distribution (not subject to SE tax).
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Summer Green
While S-Corp status can potentially save on self-employment taxes for higher-income businesses, it's generally not cost-effective at the $7-10k profit level the original poster mentioned. S-Corps require more administrative overhead, including: 1) Running payroll (with associated costs) 2) Filing separate corporate tax returns 3) Potentially higher tax preparation fees 4) More complex accounting requirements At lower income levels, the payroll costs and additional tax preparation fees often exceed any SE tax savings. Generally, S-Corp status becomes more beneficial when business profits reach $40k+ annually, depending on your specific situation.
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