Unsent W-2 from employer who still owes me a month's salary - how to file?
I'm really stressed about my taxes this year and could use some advice. I worked for this small business for about 3 months last year, but they never paid me for my final month of work (about $4,200). When I tried to get my money, they kept giving me the runaround until I finally had to quit. Now they're claiming what they owe me is "bad debt" whatever that means. The bigger issue for filing is they haven't sent me my W-2 form, and I need to file jointly with my husband soon. I've prepared Form 4852 (the substitute W-2), but I honestly have no idea how much they withheld from my paychecks for taxes. I've already filed a claim with the department of industrial relations about the unpaid wages, but who knows when that will be resolved. Will not having the exact withholding amounts delay our refund? I'm worried since we're counting on that money. And I seriously doubt my ex-employer is planning to suddenly become responsible about tax documents when they wouldn't even pay me what I earned. Any advice would be super appreciated!
18 comments


Reginald Blackwell
You're in a frustrating but unfortunately common situation. The good news is that you're taking the right steps by filing Form 4852 as a substitute for your missing W-2. For the withholding amounts, check your final paystub if you have it - it should show year-to-date withholding figures. If you don't have paystubs, make your best estimate based on the payments you did receive. Look at the withholding from those months and use that to calculate a reasonable estimate for your total employment period. Filing with Form 4852 might delay your refund slightly as the IRS may need to verify the information, but it shouldn't prevent you from getting your refund eventually. The IRS is aware that sometimes employers fail to provide W-2s, which is exactly why Form 4852 exists. As for the unpaid wages, keep pursuing that through the department of industrial relations. That's separate from your tax situation, but you're entitled to those wages regardless of what your employer calls it. "Bad debt" is nonsense - they owe you for work performed.
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Aria Khan
•What happens if their estimate of withholding is way off though? Like what if they accidentally claim too much was withheld? Would the IRS come after them later?
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Reginald Blackwell
•If your estimate is significantly different from what the employer reported to the IRS, the IRS might contact you for clarification. If you claimed too much withholding, you could potentially face penalties or have to repay the difference plus interest. That's why it's important to make as reasonable an estimate as possible. Slightly off estimates usually don't cause major issues, but intentionally inflating withholding amounts would be problematic. Document how you arrived at your estimate and keep any paystubs or other evidence that supports your calculations.
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Everett Tutum
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Sunny Wang
•Does it work if you don't have any paystubs at all? My employer paid me through direct deposit but never gave me actual paystubs, just told me verbally what the breakdown was.
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Hugh Intensity
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Everett Tutum
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Romeo Quest
Don't forget to report that employer to the IRS! They're legally required to provide W-2s by January 31st. You can call the IRS at 800-829-1040 to report them. I did this when my employer "forgot" to send my W-2, and miraculously they "found" it and sent it within a week after the IRS contacted them. Also check your state's department of labor about those unpaid wages. Some states have penalties for employers who withhold pay, and they can sometimes get things moving faster than you can on your own.
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Statiia Aarssizan
•Thank you so much for this suggestion! Would reporting them to the IRS interfere with my ongoing case with the department of industrial relations? I'm definitely going to call them about the W-2 issue.
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Romeo Quest
•Not at all - these are completely separate issues being handled by different agencies. The IRS is concerned with tax compliance (providing W-2s), while the department of industrial relations handles wage theft and payment issues. You should absolutely pursue both avenues simultaneously. In fact, the pressure from multiple agencies often motivates employers to resolve issues faster. The IRS penalties for not providing W-2s can be significant, which might get their attention in a way your individual requests haven't.
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Val Rossi
Just to add something important - make sure you keep REALLY good records of all your attempts to get your W-2 and your communications with this employer. Save emails, text messages, write down dates of phone calls, etc. This will help you if the IRS has questions about why you filed with Form 4852. Also, when you estimate your withholding, err on the side of caution and estimate a bit LOWER than you think it might be. It's better to potentially owe a small amount later than to claim too much withholding and raise red flags.
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Eve Freeman
•This is good advice. I actually took screenshots of all communications with my former employer when they wouldn't give me my W-2. The IRS never questioned my Form 4852, but I was prepared just in case.
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