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Nia Davis

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Just a heads up - I had this exact issue when I worked 2 jobs last year. Made sure to claim my excess SS on Schedule 3, but my return got flagged for "verification" and delayed my refund by 3 months. Found out later this is pretty common when claiming excess SS tax. If possible, try to file early so you have time to deal with any potential delays. And keep all your W-2s organized in case they ask for documentation. They didn't ask me for anything, but better safe than sorry.

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Mateo Perez

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Did you get your full refund eventually? And did they contact you during those 3 months or was it just radio silence while they were verifying?

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Nia Davis

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Yes, I did get my full refund including the excess Social Security tax amount. They didn't adjust anything once they verified my information. During those 3 months, it was mostly radio silence. I kept checking the "Where's My Refund" tool, and it just said "Your refund is being processed" the entire time. I called once after about 2 months and was told it was in the verification department and I just needed to wait. Then one day the status suddenly changed to approved, and I got the deposit a few days later.

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Aisha Rahman

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My tax guy says we shouldn't file the 843 form at all. He said to put the excess on line 11 of Schedule 3 (the Credit for Excess Social Security Tax Withheld line). I'm using a diff tax software than you but all of them should have this. Add up all your W-2 box 4 amounts, subtract $10,453, and what's left is your credit. No need to contact employers or file extra forms. Much easier!

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Thanks so much for this! I just checked my tax software and found the Schedule 3 section. You're right - there's a specific line for "Excess social security tax withheld" and it was really straightforward to enter. I was definitely overthinking this. After entering the information, my refund increased by the exact amount of my excess withholding. No need for Form 843 or contacting employers at all!

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Just to add - make sure you keep good records showing your calculation of the excess amount. A friend of mine got audited for this (bad luck I guess) and needed to show how she calculated the excess amount from her multiple W-2s.

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Lauren Zeb

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Don't forget about state taxes too! In some states, you MUST file the same status on your state return as your federal return. In others, you can choose different statuses. This could make a big difference in your overall tax picture. Also, if you're in a community property state (AZ, CA, ID, LA, NV, NM, TX, WA, WI), filing separately works totally differently - you each report half of the community income regardless of who actually earned it. Makes filing separately much less beneficial for student loan purposes in those states.

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Grace Lee

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Thanks for bringing this up! We're in Pennsylvania - do you know if we'd have to use the same filing status for state as federal? I didn't even think about how this might affect our state taxes.

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Lauren Zeb

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Pennsylvania doesn't actually have married filing jointly or married filing separately options like the federal return does. PA has a flat income tax where each person files their own return reporting their own income, regardless of federal filing status. You'll each file your own PA-40, reporting just your individual income. This is actually good news for your situation because your state tax situation won't be affected by whatever you decide for your federal return. But definitely double-check with a tax professional about your specific situation, as local taxes might have different rules.

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Has anyone considered the phase-out thresholds for various credits? With your combined income around $170k, you might be close to phase-out limits for certain benefits. Filing separately sometimes changes these thresholds. For example, the student loan interest deduction starts phasing out at $145k for married filing jointly in 2025 and is eliminated at $175k. Since you're in that range, you might lose part of that deduction anyway even if filing jointly.

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The student loan interest deduction isn't the only thing to consider though. Child tax credits, education credits, and retirement contribution limits all have different phase-out thresholds too. At their income level, they need to look at the whole picture.

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Amina Sy

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Make sure your brother keeps really good records about this settlement! Even without a 1099, the IRS can still find out about it if the other company deducts it as a business expense on their taxes. My friend didn't report a settlement and got a nasty CP2000 notice two years later.

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Ava Thompson

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That's a really good point, I didn't even think about the company deducting it on their end. I'll definitely tell him to keep all the settlement paperwork and document everything. Would you recommend he send in any specific documentation with his tax return, or just keep it all on hand in case of questions?

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Amina Sy

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I wouldn't send any extra documentation with the return itself. The IRS doesn't want that unless they specifically ask for it. Just have him keep all the settlement documents, correspondence, and proof of the payment amount in a safe place for at least 7 years (the extended audit timeline). Also, when he reports it on Schedule 1, Line 8z, he should write a brief description like "Breach of contract settlement" next to it. That shows transparency and makes it clear he's not trying to hide anything.

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Has your brother asked the company to reconsider providing a 1099? Even though they said they won't issue one, it's technically required for payments over $600 in the course of business. Maybe worth asking again.

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Sometimes companies refuse to issue 1099s for settlements because they don't want to admit liability. I had this happen and my accountant said to just report it anyway. The IRS cares more that YOU report income than whether THEY issued the proper form.

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Sophie Duck

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Another option you might want to consider is looking at Article XV of the US-Canada tax treaty which covers "dependent personal services" if you're actually an employee rather than a contractor. If you're working remotely for a US company but physically present in Canada for the entire year, you might qualify for exemption from US taxes under this provision assuming you don't have US citizenship or green card. The key is determining whether you're considered an employee or independent contractor under the treaty definitions, which sometimes differ from how the company classified you on paper.

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This is really helpful! The company classified me as an independent contractor (hence the 1099-NEC), but I'm wondering if the treaty might view it differently since I only work for this one company. How do I figure out if I'm considered an employee or contractor under the treaty specifically?

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Sophie Duck

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The treaty doesn't specifically define employee vs contractor, so it generally follows the classification principles of each country. The IRS looks at factors like behavioral control, financial control, and relationship of the parties. Since you only work for one company, that's a factor that could potentially point toward employment, but there are many other factors. Do they control when and how you work? Do you use your own equipment? Do you have the opportunity for profit or loss? These all matter for classification.

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Make sure ur looking at the right year when filing! I screwed up and was using old forms from 2018 when the NR-EZ still existed and had to redo everything. The IRS website is confusing AF about which forms are current. Also, if your income was from self-employment, you might have to pay Self-employment tax even with treaty benefits unless there's a totalization agreement between US and Canada (which I think there is).

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Anita George

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There is indeed a totalization agreement between the US and Canada! If you're paying into the Canadian social security system (CPP), you generally don't have to pay US self-employment taxes. You'll need to get a certificate of coverage from the Canadian authorities though.

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Alfredo Lugo

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One thing to consider - even though there's no penalty for filing late when you're due a refund, you're essentially giving the government an interest-free loan by waiting. If you need that money, file ASAP! Also, make sure you're meeting all the international student reporting requirements. Depending on your visa status and how long you've been in the US, you might need to file Form 8843 even if you don't have income. Missing these forms can cause issues later with visa renewals or adjustment of status applications.

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Emma Morales

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Thanks for bringing this up! I definitely need the money sooner rather than later. Quick question - do you know if GLACIER tax prep software is good for this situation or should I just try to file directly?

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Alfredo Lugo

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GLACIER is actually quite good for international student tax situations. Many universities provide it free to their international students. It's specifically designed for nonresident tax filing and handles the special forms and tax treaty provisions that apply to international students. If your university doesn't provide free access, you could also look into using the IRS Free File program or one of the commercial tax software options with specific international student support. The key is making sure whatever you use can properly handle Form 1040-NR and any required attachments like Form 8843.

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Sydney Torres

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Don't forget to check if your country has a tax treaty with the US! I'm from India and I overlooked this my first year. Depending on your home country, certain scholarships, fellowships, or even some employment income might be taxed differently.

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This is super important! I'm from the UK and because of the tax treaty, I was able to exclude some of my research stipend from being taxed. Saved me over $1200. The tax treaty articles are different for each country.

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