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Another tax benefit angle to consider for your investor clients - if they have properties that have been sitting on the market for a while before staging, make sure they know they can potentially deduct carrying costs during that period (mortgage interest, property taxes, utilities, etc.) as ordinary expenses rather than adding them to basis. Adding professional staging services often shortens time on market, which can actually increase their effective ROI by reducing these carrying costs. My tax advisor pointed this out last year, and when I did the math, I realized that staging actually "paid for itself" in tax benefits from reduced carrying costs, even before considering the higher sale price. Make sure your clients are tracking these time periods carefully!
This is interesting - does this apply even if the property is unoccupied during renovation? I have a couple properties that sit empty for 2-3 months during renovations before I stage them and list them. Can I deduct those carrying costs as ordinary expenses too?
Yes, it absolutely applies during renovation periods too! The key distinction is whether the property is "held for sale" or "held for production of income" during that time. During active renovation periods for a flip property, the property is considered to be in preparation for sale, so those carrying costs (mortgage interest, property taxes, utilities, insurance, etc.) can generally be deducted as ordinary expenses rather than being capitalized into the basis. This is especially true if you're considered a "dealer" for tax purposes rather than just an investor.
Something nobody's mentioned yet is the timing of when you stage the property can affect the tax treatment. If staging is done as part of the initial renovation/prep work, some tax pros will advise capitalizing it as part of your basis. But if it's done after the property is otherwise ready for sale, it's more clearly a selling expense. I actually changed my business practice based on this - I now complete ALL renovation work first, take dated photos of the completed unstaged property, THEN bring in staging as a separate distinct marketing phase. This creates a clearer paper trail showing staging as a selling expense rather than a capital improvement.
That's a really smart approach! Do you have any issues with the IRS questioning this distinction? I'm worried about having my staging expenses disallowed if audited.
I've been doing this for 6 years now and haven't had any issues with the IRS. The key is documentation and consistency. I keep a clear project timeline for each property that shows when renovation was completed and when staging began. I also make sure my staging invoices are separate from any contractor or renovation invoices, with clear dates. It's also important to have a consistent business practice. I don't try to treat similar expenses differently on different properties. I've developed a written business policy that explains my approach to staging as a marketing expense, which would help demonstrate my intent if ever questioned during an audit.
Have you considered making an extra payment to your student loans if you have any? Interest on student loans is deductible up to $2,500 depending on your income, though with your household income you might be phased out of this deduction. Also, if either of you is self-employed or has any 1099 income, you could make business purchases you were planning for early 2024. New computer, office equipment, professional subscriptions, etc.
We don't have any student loans left fortunately, but my wife does have some consulting income on top of her regular job. That's a great idea about accelerating some business purchases - she was planning to upgrade her home office setup in January anyway. Is there a minimum amount of 1099 income needed to make this worthwhile?
There's no minimum threshold for 1099 income to take business deductions. As long as your wife's consulting work is a legitimate business activity (not just a hobby), she can deduct ordinary and necessary business expenses against that income. Since she was already planning the office upgrade, accelerating it into 2023 makes perfect sense. Just make sure the purchases are actually made and put into service before December 31st - ordering isn't enough, you need to receive and start using the items this year. Keep excellent records of the purchases and how they relate to her consulting work.
Has anyone mentioned charitable donations yet? With your income level, this could be a significant tax saver. If you normally give to charity, consider bunching multiple years of donations into 2023. You could also look into a donor-advised fund - you get the full tax deduction this year but can distribute the money to charities over future years.
Another option you should look into is the "qualified principal residence indebtedness" exclusion if this was related to your primary home, or the "qualified farm indebtedness" exclusion if it was farm-related debt. Different exclusions apply in different situations, and it's important to use the right one on Form 982. Also, make sure that the 1099-C is legitimate. Sometimes debt collectors send these forms for debts that are past the statute of limitations, which can be problematic. If the debt is really 11-12 years old, you might want to verify that the 1099-C was properly issued.
Thanks for mentioning this, but my 1099-C is definitely for an old credit card debt, not a home mortgage or farm debt. It was from a major bank that I definitely had an account with back then, so I think it's legitimate. The weird thing is why they waited so many years to cancel it and send the 1099-C. Is there a time limit on when they can issue these forms? The debt was from around 2012, but they just cancelled it in 2023.
There's actually no time limit on when creditors can issue a 1099-C after cancelling a debt. They're required to issue it for the tax year in which they actually cancel the debt, regardless of how old the original debt was. In your case, even though the debt originated in 2012, if the creditor officially cancelled it in 2023, then that's when the taxable event occurred. This is fairly common with old debts that have been sitting in collections for years. The good news is that insolvency is still an option regardless of how old the original debt was. Focus on your financial situation at the time of cancellation (2023) when determining if you qualify for the insolvency exclusion.
one thing nobody mentioned yet is that if u qualify as insolvent, u need to reduce certain tax attributes like NOL, credit carryovers etc. on that form 982. its in part 2 of the form. most ppl dont have these but if u do its important. also dont forget to actually attatch form 982 to your return! if ur e-filing the software should do this for u but double check.
That's a great point. Most people filing basic returns won't have these tax attributes, but it's an important consideration if you have a more complex tax situation. Also worth noting that if you're using free tax filing software, some of them don't support Form 982. You might need to upgrade to a paid version to properly handle the insolvency exclusion.
I'm an Uber driver and this is why I NEVER let anyone use my account, not even family. The tax nightmare isn't worth it. Your uncle is 100% wrong and this could potentially be viewed as tax fraud. The 1099 has YOUR social security number on it, which means the IRS expects YOU to pay both income tax and self-employment tax (an extra 15.3%) on that money. He should've set up his own account with a different email. Too late now though.
Thanks for confirming what I suspected. Do you think I should just file the taxes normally and have him reimburse me for the extra amount I'll owe? Or is there a better way to handle this without getting him in trouble?
You should definitely report the income properly on your return since it's tied to your SSN. Have your uncle calculate exactly how much extra tax you're paying because of his income and reimburse you that amount - including the self-employment tax portion which is significant. If you want to do everything by the book, the proper way would be for him to pay you the full amount shown on the 1099, then you pay the taxes, and he would have no tax obligation. But most families just calculate the tax impact and have the actual earner reimburse that amount. Just make sure you keep documentation of everything in case of an audit.
idk why everyone is making this so complicated. just file your taxes normally with your W-2s and ignore the 1099. if the irs sends you a letter later, just explain the situation then. i did that when my roommate used my amazon seller account and it worked out fine.
Mason Lopez
One thing nobody's mentioned - check if your state has additional LLC filing requirements beyond federal taxes! I use TurboTax on my Mac for my consulting LLC and it handles the federal stuff great, but my state (California) has an annual $800 LLC fee that TurboTax doesn't automatically prompt you about. Had to file that separately and nearly missed it my first year. Also, if you're making $58k, definitely look into setting up a SEP IRA or Solo 401k to reduce your tax burden. TurboTax can handle these but doesn't always make it obvious that it's an option.
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Pedro Sawyer
ā¢That's a really good point about state requirements. I'm in Colorado - does anyone know if there are specific requirements here I should watch out for? And what's the difference between SEP IRA vs Solo 401k in terms of setup complexity in TurboTax?
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Mason Lopez
ā¢Colorado has an annual report requirement called a "Periodic Report" that costs $10 to file online. It's due in the anniversary month of your LLC's formation. It's not a tax form, but a filing with the Secretary of State's office to keep your LLC in good standing. TurboTax won't remind you about this. For retirement accounts, a SEP IRA is simpler to set up in TurboTax - just a few questions and you're done. A Solo 401k gives you potentially higher contribution limits, especially if you want to make both employer and employee contributions, but requires more paperwork outside of TurboTax and you'll need to file Form 5500-EZ once your balance exceeds $250,000. For your income level, a SEP IRA is probably simpler to start with.
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Vera Visnjic
Has anybody else had issues with TurboTax not saving their data between sessions on Mac? I was halfway through my LLC taxes last year and when I came back to finish, some of my business expense categories were empty! Had to re-enter everything. Wondering if it's a Mac-specific bug or just me.
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Jake Sinclair
ā¢I had a similar issue but fixed it by making sure I was completely exiting the program properly (not just closing the window). Also, make sure your Mac isn't going into any kind of deep sleep mode between sessions. I started using the save feature obsessively after losing data once - hit save after every major section.
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