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What happens with late S-Corp Election for 2024 taxes? Timing question

Hey everyone, So I've been working as a 1099 contractor since the beginning of the year, operating as a sole proprietor. I'm finally ready to establish a corporation and submit a Form 2553 to elect S-corp status within the next week or so, but I'm kinda confused about how this would work tax-wise. Just a heads up - I am planning to talk to a CPA soon, but finding a good one in my area has been a real struggle, so I figured I'd ask here first. My main questions are: 1. My client said they can switch me over to the S-corp structure once I have all the documentation. If my late S-corp election is accepted, would all my 1099 income for the entire 2024 tax year be treated under the S-corp, or would it only apply from the date the election is accepted through the end of the year? 2. What happens if the late election isn't accepted? Would I automatically be taxed as a C-Corp? And if that's the case, would I have been better off just sticking with the sole proprietor status rather than attempting this S-corp election for 2024? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!

One thing no one has mentioned yet - make sure your state filing is aligned with your federal S-corp election! I got my federal S-corp status approved retroactively, but didn't realize I needed to file a separate election with my state. Ended up with a mess where my entity was an S-corp federally but a C-corp at the state level for half the year. Different states have different rules about conforming to federal S elections, so definitely check what your state requires. Some automatically recognize the federal election, others require a separate form and fee.

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Do you think it's better to just wait until next year at this point? I'm in the same boat as OP but worried I'm causing more problems than I'm solving by trying to do this mid-year. Would it be simpler to just stay as a sole prop for 2024 and start fresh with an S-corp in January?

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That really depends on your specific numbers. If you're making substantial income where the self-employment tax savings would outweigh the hassle and potential accounting costs, it might still be worth pursuing for 2024. In my experience, establishing the S-corp now and getting your systems in place (payroll, accounting separation, etc.) can be advantageous even if the tax savings are minimal for the partial year. It gives you time to work out any kinks in your process before starting a full tax year. Plus, the longer you wait, the harder it can be to get retroactive approval since "I didn't know" becomes less convincing as a reasonable cause the longer you've been in business.

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Just wanted to share what happened in my situation, which might help. I formed my LLC in March 2023 but didn't file my S-corp election (2553) until August 2023. I included a letter explaining that I wasn't aware of the 75-day deadline as a first-time business owner. The IRS approved my election retroactive to my formation date. The key was the reasonable cause statement. I kept it simple and honest. The IRS is often understanding with first-time business owners who aren't working with professional advisors from day one. Make sure you document everything though - if they approve your retroactive election, you'll need clean books showing the separation between your reasonable salary and distributions from day one of the effective date.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's reassuring to hear they were understanding in your case. Did you have to go back and adjust your bookkeeping for those earlier months once the election was approved? I'm wondering how complex that retroactive accounting might be.

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Yes, I did have to go back and retroactively clean up my books once the election was approved. I had to reclassify some transactions and establish a clear division between business expenses, my reasonable compensation, and owner distributions. The most time-consuming part was setting up payroll retroactively and making sure I was compliant with all the payroll tax requirements. I ended up establishing what my reasonable salary should be for the full year, then calculating what I should have been paying myself each month. My accountant helped me file the necessary quarterly payroll tax forms for the quarters that had already passed. It was definitely a headache, but the tax savings made it worthwhile in my case.

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What is the W-9 form used for and when do I need one?

Hey tax folks! I'm suddenly being asked to fill out a W-9 form for some freelance work I just picked up and honestly I'm kinda confused about what this form actually does. Can someone break down what the W-9 is actually used for and maybe give me a real-world example of when it's needed? I've never had to fill one out before and want to make sure I understand what I'm signing and why they need it. Thanks!!

Little tip from someone who's been freelancing for years: make a W-9 template for yourself with all your info already filled out (except the signature). Then whenever a new client asks for one, you can just sign and date a fresh copy instead of filling out the whole form again. Saves a ton of time when you have multiple clients!

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Is it safe to keep a document with your SSN saved on your computer though? I'm always paranoid about identity theft, especially with documents that have my full SSN written out.

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That's a really good point about security. What I actually do is keep a mostly completed version with just the last four digits of my SSN visible, then I add the full number only when I'm ready to send it. For extra protection, I save the template as a password-protected PDF, so even if someone somehow got access to my computer, they couldn't open the file. And I never email a W-9 as an unsecured attachment - I either use a secure document sharing service or password-protect the PDF and send the password through a different channel like text.

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Quick question - do I need to fill out a new W-9 for clients I've worked with before? I did some work for a company last year and filled out a W-9 then, but they're asking for another one this year. Is that normal?

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Companies often request updated W-9s annually as a best practice, especially if it's been a while since they collected one from you. It helps them ensure they have your current information.

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Why was I taxed significantly more on my second sales commission paycheck?

I work in sales with commission-based pay, so my paychecks fluctuate every week. First paycheck breakdown: - $14.8k gross before taxes - 6% after-tax contribution to my Roth 401k - Total taxes taken out: $3,950 - Take home amount: $9.9k Second paycheck breakdown: - $17.3k gross before taxes - 7% after-tax contribution to Roth 401k - Total taxes taken out: $5,600 - Take home pay: $10.4k I'm really confused. I earned about $2.5k more in gross pay, but my taxes jumped by $1,650, which meant my actual take-home only increased by $500. That seems way out of proportion. Is there some kind of threshold for single paychecks where you suddenly get taxed at a much higher rate? Like if you cross from $15k to $17k per check? I'm wondering if it would make more financial sense to contribute more to my traditional pre-tax 401k to keep my taxable income below whatever this threshold might be. Any insights would be appreciated!

From what I understand about how payroll works, the system uses tax withholding tables based on the current check amount. The higher check makes the system think "oh this person is going to make $X annually" and withholds accordingly. One thing to consider - your Roth 401k contributions are after-tax, so they don't reduce your withholding. Have you thought about switching some of your contributions to traditional pre-tax 401k? That would lower your taxable income and potentially keep you from hitting those higher withholding percentages on big commission checks.

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I've been considering that switch actually. Do you know if there's an optimal balance between Roth and traditional contributions for someone with variable income? My base salary is pretty consistent but these commission checks can range wildly from $5k to $20k depending on the month.

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For highly variable income like yours, many financial advisors suggest a hybrid approach. Use traditional pre-tax contributions during your high commission months to reduce the tax hit when you're temporarily pushed into higher brackets. Then use Roth contributions during lower income months when you're in a lower tax bracket. The general principle is to make traditional contributions when you're in a higher bracket than you expect to be in during retirement, and Roth contributions when you're in a lower bracket. With your variable income, you're effectively moving between brackets throughout the year, so you can strategically use both types of contributions.

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Has anyone tried adjusting their W-4 to account for this? I'm in a similar situation with quarterly bonuses that get taxed like crazy. I heard you can put an additional amount on line 4(c) to reduce withholding, but I'm afraid of ending up owing a bunch at tax time.

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I adjusted mine last year for my sales commissions. Put $200 on line 4(c) for reduced withholding. Ended up about right at tax time - got a small refund of $300. You have to be careful though and maybe do some math based on your total expected annual income. The IRS has a tax withholding estimator on their website that's pretty helpful.

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Student confused about quarterly tax requirements for side income from surveys and contract work

Hey all, I'm a college student who's pretty stressed and confused right now. I've been making some extra cash through various side hustles - mostly taking online surveys that paid through PayPal (about $4,310) and a short 1099 contractor gig in the last quarter that paid $352.75. So altogether that's $4,662.75 for the year. The thing is, I just found out about quarterly taxes and I'm freaking out a bit. The Q4 deadline is coming up in like 2 weeks, and I never filed anything for Q1-Q3 because I honestly had no idea this was a thing. I've been setting aside about 30% of what I earn just to be safe for taxes, but I'm not sure if I'm already in trouble with the IRS for missing those earlier deadlines. Most of my side income came in Q4, with only about $1,000 total from the first three quarters combined. I was planning to just wait until I got all my forms (1099-K from PayPal, 1099 for the contract work, 1099-T from my university, and W2 from my summer internship) and file everything at once for 2024. I also saw something about the 1099-K threshold being $5,000 now instead of $600? I'm definitely going to stay on top of the quarterly deadlines for 2025 since I plan to continue some contract work. But for now - am I in trouble? Do I need to scramble to file something in the next two weeks? Or can I just file everything together when tax season comes around?

Something nobody mentioned yet - check if you're eligible for the Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A). Since your survey and contract work count as self-employment, you might be able to deduct up to 20% of that income. Also, keep track of ANY expenses related to earning that income! Internet costs, portion of phone bill used for surveys, any equipment or software, even a portion of your rent if you use part of your living space exclusively for this work. These all reduce your taxable income. As a student, prioritize education credits over deductions usually - American Opportunity Credit is worth up to $2,500 and Lifetime Learning Credit up to $2,000. These often completely offset taxes from part-time work.

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I hadn't even thought about deductions for the survey work! Would I really be able to deduct part of my internet bill? What about my laptop that I use for both schoolwork and surveys? And how do I calculate what percentage is business use versus personal?

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Yes, you can absolutely deduct a portion of your internet bill based on the percentage used for your income-generating activities! For example, if you estimate 30% of your internet use is for surveys and contract work, you can deduct 30% of the bill. For your laptop, it gets a bit more complicated since it's used for both business and personal purposes. You'd need to estimate the percentage of business use (just for the income activities, not including schoolwork). You could either deduct that percentage of the cost in the year you bought it using Section 179 depreciation, or depreciate it over several years. Most tax software will walk you through these options. Just make sure to keep records showing how you calculated these percentages in case of an audit.

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Don't overthink this! Your situation isn't that complicated. Since you have under $5k in self-employment income, your tax liability is probably minimal. Self-employment tax is 15.3% of your net profit (after expenses), so even without deductions you're looking at roughly $700 in SE tax. I've missed quarterly deadlines before and the penalties were like $20-30 total. Not worth stressing about! Just file in April like normal. You might even qualify for free filing through your university - most have partnerships with tax software companies. Check with your student services office.

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This advice seems dangerously casual. While the penalties might be small, establishing good habits early is important. The IRS takes quarterly estimated taxes seriously - penalties are the lesser of 90% of the tax shown on your return or 100% of last year's tax.

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The point isn't to encourage bad habits, but to prevent unnecessary anxiety. Yes, quarterly taxes are important as income increases, but the penalty is literally calculated as interest on the underpayment - for a student with modest side income in their first year of self-employment, it's often minimal. The 90%/100% rules you mentioned are actually "safe harbors" that help you AVOID penalties, not calculate them. For someone just learning the system, focusing on proper tracking and reporting for their first full tax return is more important than worrying about missed quarterlies that might result in a $25 penalty. Getting the fundamentals right this first year will set them up for proper quarterly payments next year when they're more established.

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Need to get my 2022 W2 info to file my taxes from that year. Help!

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a panic here. I recently realized I never filed my 2022 taxes and now I'm trying to get caught up before I get in trouble with the IRS. The main problem is I can't find my 2022 W2 anywhere! I've turned my apartment upside down looking for it. I worked at two different places during 2022 - a restaurant for the first half of the year (made about $21,000 there) and then a retail store where I finished out the year (made around $18,500). I've already contacted the retail place but they said their HR department would need 7-10 business days to process my request for a copy. I'm really worried about potential penalties since I'm filing so late. Does anyone know the fastest way to get my 2022 W2 info? Can I get it directly from the IRS somehow? Is there an online system where this information is stored? Any advice would be super appreciated!

Just want to add, if you do get the Wage and Income Transcript from the IRS, be aware that it won't show your state tax withholding! I made this mistake last year and had to go back and amend my state return. Make sure you still try to get the actual W2 copies from your employers for complete state tax information.

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This is so important! I got hit with state penalties because I filed using only the IRS transcript info and underreported my state withholding. Ended up having to prove my actual withholding amounts later with paystubs. Huge headache.

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One more option - check your email! I thought I lost my W2s from 2022 but then remembered my company had sent them electronically. Found them buried in my email from January/February 2023. Worth searching your inbox for "W2" or "tax document" just in case!

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