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Just wanted to add my experience - I filed an amendment last year for about $800 in additional taxes. It was processed within 12 weeks, no audit, no questions, no problems whatsoever. The key things I did: - Included a clear explanation letter - Attached all supporting documents - Double-checked all math - Made sure I used the right amendment form (1040-X) - Paid the additional tax immediately Don't stress too much. The IRS is mainly concerned with big discrepancies and potential fraud, not honest mistakes that you're voluntarily correcting!
What supporting documents did you need to include? I'm not sure what to attach with mine.
It depends on what you're amending! For my situation, I was adding some dividend income I missed, so I included the corrected 1099-DIV form. Generally, you should include any documents that support the specific changes you're making. If you're changing income, include the corrected income statement. If you're adding a deduction, include receipts or documentation of those expenses. If you're changing filing status, include documentation that supports that change. The IRS instructions for Form 1040-X have a good section on what to attach. If you're not sure, include more documentation rather than less - better to give them everything they might need than to have them request additional info later.
i worked at the irs 4 years (not anymore) and i can tell you amendments are NOT automatic audit triggers!! yes they get more human eyes on them than regular returns but that's not the same as an audit. for a $405 difference it's extremely unlikely you'd face any issues. the irs is focused on big fish, not small honest mistakes. they dont have resources to audit simple amendments for a few hundred bucks. just make sure you explain the reason for amendment clearly and include any supporting docs. and dont stress!!
Just to add some additional info that might help - I work at a bank and we see tax payments process differently depending on how you pay: 1. Direct debit through tax software: This typically takes 1-3 business days to actually hit your account after the scheduled date. 2. Credit card: The charge shows up immediately as pending, but it might not fully post for 1-2 days. 3. IRS Direct Pay (on IRS.gov): These typically process within 1-2 business days of your scheduled date. Just something to consider if you're cutting it close with your bank balance!
Do you know if there's any difference in processing time between major banks and smaller credit unions? Mine sometimes takes longer for ACH transfers.
Yes, there can definitely be differences. Larger banks typically process ACH transfers (which is what IRS payments are) more quickly - usually within 24 hours of receiving them. Smaller credit unions sometimes batch their ACH processing and might only run them once per day, which can add a delay of up to 24 hours. If you're with a smaller credit union, I'd add an extra day to the expected processing time just to be safe. So if the IRS schedules the withdrawal for the 15th, it might not actually hit your account until the 17th or 18th at a smaller institution.
What happens if your payment bounces? My account is pretty low and I'm scared I'll get hit with penalties if there's not enough money when they try to withdraw.
If your payment bounces, the IRS will send you a notice and charge you a penalty - usually about 2% of the payment amount. They'll also charge interest on the unpaid amount until you pay it. Plus your bank will probably charge you an NSF fee too.
5 Consider asking your IRA provider if they offer a special "removal of excess contributions" service. Many of them have dedicated processes specifically for fixing these situations and can handle most of the calculations and paperwork for you. When I discovered I had made excess contributions to my Roth IRA for two years, Fidelity walked me through their correction process. They calculated the exact earnings attributable to the excess amounts and filled out most of the paperwork. I still had to file Form 5329, but having their documentation made it much easier.
14 Would that still work if it's been more than 2-3 years? I thought there was some deadline for removing excess contributions without penalties.
5 You're right that there's a deadline for removing excess contributions without the 6% penalty - it's typically by the tax filing deadline plus extensions (around October 15th) for the year of the contribution. Since the OP's situation involves contributions from 2020-2022, they would likely still owe the 6% penalty for each year the excess remained in the account. However, most IRA providers can still process the removal of excess contributions even after this deadline. The benefit is that removing the excess now stops the 6% penalty from continuing to apply to future years.
17 Have you considered just leaving it alone? I'm not advising tax evasion, but realistically, the IRS is severely backlogged and understaffed. The chance of them specifically auditing your Roth contributions is pretty slim unless you're being audited for other reasons.
2 This is terrible advice. The IRS receives direct reporting of IRA contributions from financial institutions. If their systems flag a mismatch between your reported income and Roth eligibility, it'll trigger an automated notice. Besides, the penalties compound the longer you wait. Better to fix it proactively than risk bigger headaches down the road.
Has your brother-in-law considered investing in opportunity zones? That's what my dad did with his commercial real estate business to defer a huge capital gains hit. They can roll profits into qualified opportunity zone funds and defer taxes while also supporting economic development. Could be a double win situation if he's in a position to make those kinds of investments.
That's interesting - I've heard about opportunity zones but don't really understand how they work. Would this only help if he's selling property with capital gains, or can it help with his regular business income too? And are there any risks involved?
Opportunity zones primarily help with capital gains, not ordinary business income. If your brother-in-law sells property, equipment, or even business interests at a profit, he could defer those capital gains taxes by reinvesting in a qualified opportunity zone fund within 180 days of the sale. The main risks include market risks (as with any investment), liquidity constraints (funds typically have 10-year holding periods for maximum benefits), and potential regulatory changes since this is a relatively new program. There's also geographic limitation since investments must be in designated opportunity zones. I'd definitely suggest talking with both a financial advisor and tax professional before pursuing this strategy.
Has anyone mentioned cost segregation studies for construction business owners? We did this last year and it was a game changer. Basically an engineering firm analyzes all your business assets and breaks them down to accelerate depreciation. Our study cost about $15k but saved us over $120k in taxes the first year.
This is especially useful if your brother-in-law owns the buildings where his business operates. My construction company did a cost seg study on our headquarters building and main warehouse. We were able to reclassify about 35% of the assets from 39-year property to 5 or 7-year property. Massive tax deferral benefit.
Tyrone Hill
In terms of pricing, I think location matters more than you might expect. Even though you're remote, a NJ-based CPA is likely used to paying higher rates than a FL-based one might. In the Northeast, I've seen preparers with your experience level get $30-40/hour for 1040s and Schedule Cs, and maybe $40-50 once they're comfortable with S Corps. Keep in mind that as a contractor, you're responsible for your own taxes, software, training, etc. So your rate should be higher than what you'd accept as an employee. Don't sell yourself short!
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Rudy Cenizo
ā¢Thanks for this insight! Do you think it's reasonable to negotiate a rate increase after I've completed a certain number of returns or after a specific time period?
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Tyrone Hill
ā¢Absolutely! That's a very common arrangement. You could propose starting at a lower rate while training (maybe $30-35/hour), then bump up to $40-45 after you've successfully completed 10-15 S Corp returns or after the first month, whichever comes first. Just make sure to get this agreement in writing before you start. Many CPAs will happily agree to this structure since they expect you'll become more valuable as you gain experience with their specific clients and processes. It also gives you a built-in opportunity to revisit compensation without having to initiate an awkward conversation later.
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Toot-n-Mighty
Has anyone discussed the software expectations? Will she provide access to the tax software or are you expected to have your own license? That could significantly impact what rate makes sense.
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Lena Kowalski
ā¢Good point. When I subcontracted, the CPA provided access to their Drake software through a remote login, but I had to use my own computer and internet. Some may expect you to have your own ProSeries or UltraTax license which would be crazy expensive for a subcontractor.
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