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Quick tip from someone who handles HSA compliance professionally - the "reasonableness" standard for excess contribution calculations means you won't get in trouble for small discrepancies. The IRS cares much more that you: 1) Remove the excess contribution before the deadline 2) Make a good faith effort to calculate earnings 3) Report the distribution correctly on your taxes Your method is certainly reasonable. I typically recommend simply using the overall account rate of return (total gains/losses divided by average balance) applied to the excess contribution amount.

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Andre Dupont

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Thanks so much for this professional perspective. So for my situation, would it be better to take the total account growth percentage (including both cash and investments) and apply that to my excess contribution amount? That seems simpler than what I was trying to do.

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Yes, that total account growth percentage method is actually preferable because it's simpler and still meets the "reasonable method" requirement. Just take the total account growth (or loss) for the year as a percentage, then multiply your excess contribution amount by that percentage. This approach is easy to explain if questioned and is commonly accepted by the IRS. The key timing factor is making sure you complete the distribution of both the excess amount and earnings before the tax filing deadline (including extensions) to avoid the 6% excise tax on excess contributions.

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Don't forget that when you withdraw excess HSA contributions, the earnings portion is taxable as "other income" in the year you make the withdrawal! I learned this the hard way. The excess contribution itself isn't taxed again if you already included it in income (which you would have if it was through your employer's payroll), but the earnings definitely are taxable.

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Is there also a penalty on the earnings portion? I thought I read somewhere that earnings are subject to an additional 10% tax if you're under 65.

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Leila Haddad

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're doing Instacart, make sure you track EVERYTHING that could be a business expense. I'm talking insulated bags, car phone mounts, portion of your cell phone bill, hand sanitizer, even appropriate clothing items. I do Instacart and Uber Eats while my husband works as an engineer. When we file jointly, I make sure to deduct all legitimate business expenses to lower my net self-employment income, which reduces both my self-employment tax and our overall income tax. Also, look into the Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A). It lets many self-employed people deduct up to 20% of their net business income. This is on top of your regular business expense deductions and can make a huge difference.

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Amina Diallo

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Do you use a specific app to track all those expenses or just a spreadsheet? And I never thought about things like phone mounts being deductible! For the Qualified Business Income deduction - does that apply even if I'm only doing this part-time for a few months?

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Leila Haddad

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I actually use a simple spreadsheet combined with a dedicated credit card for all business purchases to keep things separate. Makes it much easier at tax time! And yes, even small things like phone mounts, portable chargers, and trunk organizers count as legitimate business expenses. For the QBI deduction, yes it absolutely applies to part-time gig work! There's no minimum time requirement. As long as you have net profit from self-employment, you can potentially claim this deduction. Even for just a few months of work. It's calculated as 20% of your net profit (after expenses), which can significantly reduce your taxable income on your joint return.

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Emma Johnson

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Something else to consider - if you'll be making decent money with Instacart, you might want to look into forming an LLC and electing S-Corp status. My wife has a regular job and I do gig work, and this setup saved us thousands. With an S-Corp, you pay yourself a reasonable salary (which is subject to self-employment tax) but can take the rest as distributions that aren't subject to SE tax. You have to file more paperwork and run payroll, but the tax savings can be substantial if you're earning enough.

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Ravi Patel

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This is terrible advice for someone doing part-time Instacart for a few months. The costs and complexity of maintaining an S-Corp would far outweigh any potential tax benefits at that income level. S-Corps make sense when you're consistently earning substantial self-employment income (usually $60k+), not for temporary gig work.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you understand if these are profits interests or capital interests. They're taxed very differently. Profits interests generally have no value at grant (only future value), while capital interests have value on day one. With profits interests, you typically don't need to pay taxes upon receipt, but with capital interests you might. Also check if these units have any "threshold" amount. Some LLC units only pay out after the company reaches a certain valuation, which affects their current value and tax treatment.

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Thanks for bringing this up! How would I know if I have profits interests vs capital interests? The agreement uses the term "restricted incentive units" throughout and mentions something about only being eligible for distributions after I've vested and after all capital contributions have received a return of some percentage. Does that sound like profits interests?

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That definitely sounds like profits interests based on the language about distributions only happening after capital contributions receive their return. This is good news tax-wise! Profits interests are designed to give you a share of future growth without taxing you on existing value. The "after all capital contributions have received a return" language is classic profits interest structure - it means your units only have value after the existing investors get their money back plus some preferred return. Just make sure you understand the vesting schedule and any potential acceleration clauses. Also, check if your company will provide tax distribution provisions to cover any phantom income that might be allocated to you.

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Beth Ford

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Your situation sounds confusing, but I think the biggest tax issue with LLC equity that nobody's mentioned is self-employment tax. When you're a partner in an LLC, you might owe self-employment tax (15.3%) on your allocated income. This is significantly higher than the regular employment taxes you're used to as a W-2 employee (7.65%, with the employer paying the other 7.65%).

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This is so true. My friend got hit with a massive surprise tax bill because of self-employment taxes on her LLC equity income. Her company didn't withhold anything, and she ended up owing like $15k unexpectedly. Definitely something to budget for!

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AstroAlpha

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Just wanted to add - if u want to adjust withholding without claiming fake dependents, use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator It helps you figure out the right withholding amount based on ur specific situation. It'll tell you exactly how to fill out your W-4 correctly. The goal is to get as close to zero as possible on your tax return - not owing a ton or getting a huge refund. And its FREE lol.

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Diego Chavez

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Does that calculator thing work for people with multiple jobs or side gig income? I always struggle with getting my withholding right because I have my main job plus some freelance stuff.

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AstroAlpha

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Yes, it definitely works for multiple jobs and side gig income! The calculator has specific sections where you can enter income from different sources, including self-employment. The tool is actually really good at handling complex situations like yours. It will ask about all your income streams and help calculate the right withholding amount. For freelance income, it'll even help determine if you need to make estimated tax payments throughout the year to avoid penalties.

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my dad always told me to claim 0 dependents even tho i have 2 kids so i get a bigger refund. is that even legal? been doing it for years lol

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Sean O'Brien

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That's actually the opposite issue but still not ideal. Claiming 0 when you have 2 qualified dependents means you're having TOO MUCH withheld. It's legal but you're giving the government an interest-free loan of your money throughout the year. You'd be better off claiming your actual dependents and putting that extra money to work for you each month.

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Regarding the discrepancy between your actual earnings and what's on the 1099-NEC - this happened to me last year. Turns out the company only issues 1099s for amounts over a certain threshold to each vendor, BUT you still need to report ALL income you earned regardless of whether you received a form for it. You should contact the company and ask why there's a difference. If they confirm they only reported part of your earnings, you'll need to add the additional income on Schedule C as "income not reported on 1099-NEC" or something similar. Better to report everything now than deal with an IRS notice later when they match your bank deposits against reported income!

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NeonNomad

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Thanks for this advice! I just contacted the company and you're exactly right - they have a policy of only issuing 1099-NECs for amounts over $600 per project, and I had several smaller projects that added up to the missing amount. They confirmed I should still report everything. How specifically do I add this to my tax return? Is there a specific line or form for "income not reported on 1099-NEC"?

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You'll report all your self-employment income on Schedule C, regardless of whether it was on a 1099 or not. There's not actually a separate line for "income not reported on 1099-NEC" - I was simplifying a bit there. The total income you report on Schedule C should be everything you earned from your business, and the IRS doesn't actually require you to break out what was or wasn't on a 1099 on this form. If you're using tax software, there's usually a section where you enter 1099-NEC information, but there should also be a way to add additional self-employment income. Just make sure your total Schedule C gross receipts equals all the money you received from your business activities.

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Yara Khoury

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Anyone know if the freelance tax rules changed recently? Last year I paid WAY more than the OP is being asked to pay on similar income. I used TurboTax tho, not FreeTaxPortal.

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The basics haven't changed much but the standard deduction amount increases slightly each year. The bigger difference might be that you didn't claim as many business deductions? Also, your income from other sources could affect it. Self-employment taxes are pretty consistent at around 15.3% of net business profit.

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