


Ask the community...
One thing to watch for on 1099-Rs that nobody mentioned yet - if you're under 59Β½ when you take distributions, you might see a "1" code in Box 7, which means you could be hit with an additional 10% early withdrawal penalty unless you qualify for an exception. This is on top of the regular income tax you'll pay on the distribution amount. There are exceptions to this penalty for things like first-time home purchases (up to $10k), certain educational expenses, disability, and some medical costs. But you need to make sure you claim these exceptions properly on your tax return using Form 5329.
Do you still get the 1099-R if you do a hardship withdrawal? My husband needed emergency surgery last year and we took $25,000 from his 401k to cover costs insurance didn't pay. Will we get hit with penalties?
Yes, you'll still receive a 1099-R for hardship withdrawals. For medical expenses, there's a potential exception to the 10% early withdrawal penalty (though not to the regular income tax) if the medical expenses exceed 7.5% of your adjusted gross income. So let's say your combined AGI is $100,000 - medical expenses would need to exceed $7,500 to potentially qualify for the exception, and only the portion above that threshold would be exempt from the penalty. You'll need to file Form 5329 with your tax return to claim this exception. The $25,000 will still be counted as taxable income regardless, but you might be able to avoid at least some of the early withdrawal penalty.
Just a heads up, the 1099-R might also show state tax withholding in boxes 12-15 if applicable. Make sure you include this on your state return if you had state taxes withheld from your distribution! I forgot this last year and ended up amending my state return.
Don't forget about the recordkeeping requirements! I'm a small landlord too and got audited last year - it was a nightmare. The IRS wanted to see documentation for EVERY single business expense. For your snacks and cookies, make sure you're keeping: - Receipts showing the exact items and amounts - Notes on who received them (names) - The business reason for giving them - The date they were provided - How the expense relates to your rental income I just use the notes app on my phone and take pics of receipts right after purchase with this info. Saved my butt during the audit.
Thanks for the tips! Do you have a specific system you use to organize all this? I'm worried about keeping track of all these little expenses throughout the year. Also, do you know if there's a minimum amount I should even bother tracking? Like if I grab a $3 coffee for my plumber, is that even worth documenting?
I use a simple three-folder system that has worked great for me. One folder for receipts (I scan them with my phone), one for expense logs (I use a basic spreadsheet with date, vendor, amount, purpose, and recipient), and one for property-specific expenses. Regarding minimum amounts - technically there is no minimum threshold for documentation. Even that $3 coffee should be documented if you're deducting it. During my audit, the IRS agent specifically looked for patterns of small undocumented expenses that added up over time. Those small $3-5 purchases can easily add up to hundreds of dollars annually, which is why they check them. Better safe than sorry!
Just a heads up that I made a mistake on this last year. I was giving my handyman energy drinks and snacks every time he came by (probably spent about $400 over the year on him alone) and tried to deduct it all as "business supplies" lol. My accountant caught it and explained the $25 gift limit. What we did instead was reclassify most of it as "refreshments provided during business meetings/services" since he was actively working while consuming them. That falls under the 50% meal deduction limit instead of the $25 gift limit. Just make sure you note that these were provided DURING the work being performed, not as thank-you gifts after the fact.
Did your accountant say anything about providing these regularly vs occasionally? I give my maintenance crew donuts like every Friday when they come to check properties. Would that still count as "during work" or is it too regular to be considered that?
One thing that nobody has mentioned is that the Social Security tax and Medicare tax don't apply to unearned income, even for kids. So if your child only has dividends and capital gains, they don't pay those taxes. But if they have both earned income (like babysitting, modeling, etc.) and unearned income, the earned portion is still subject to those taxes if they earn enough. I think the threshold is around $400 for self-employment. The IRS Publication 929 explains all this, but it's written in classic IRS language (i.e., nearly incomprehensible).
What happens if my kid has both types of income but we elect to include it on our return? Do we still have to pay the SE taxes on their earned income?
If you include your child's income on your return using Form 8814, you can only do this for their unearned income (investments, interest, dividends, capital gains). For any earned income (like from a job or self-employment), your child must file their own return regardless. So yes, if they had self-employment income over the threshold (about $400), they would still need to file a separate return for that portion and pay the applicable SE taxes.
Does anyone know if 529 plan distributions count as unearned income for Kiddie Tax purposes? My son is using some 529 money for his senior year of high school (for qualified expenses) and also has some dividend income from a UTMA account.
Qualified 529 distributions used for educational expenses aren't counted as income at all (neither earned nor unearned), so they won't affect Kiddie Tax calculations. Only if the distribution isn't used for qualified expenses would it potentially count toward the Kiddie Tax thresholds.
Another reason your math might be "not mathing" is withholding calculations. The IRS withholding calculator assumes withholding is evenly distributed throughout the year, but if you had any changes in income, bonuses, or adjusted your W-4 mid-year, the projected withholding could be off. When I got a raise mid-year from $52,000 to $58,000, my calculations were all wrong until I realized I needed to account for the different withholding rates during different parts of the year.
Hmm that's a really good point. I did get a promotion in August that bumped me from about $52k to the $58k range, so that could definitely be affecting things. Do you know if there's a good way to calculate the prorated amounts when your income changes mid-year?
You'll need to separate your income and withholding into two periods: before and after the promotion. For each period, calculate the annual equivalent of that income level (what you would have made if you'd earned that same amount all year), figure the tax on that annual amount, then prorate it for the number of months at that rate. For example, if you made $4,333/month ($52k/12) for 7 months, then $4,833/month for 5 months, you'd calculate: (Annual tax on $52k Γ 7/12) + (Annual tax on $58k Γ 5/12) = Your actual tax liability. Then compare your actual withholdings to this amount.
Has anyone used the IRS2Go app for checking tax calculations? I've been trying to use it to verify some of my math but the interface is so confusing.
The IRS2Go app is really more for checking refund status than doing calculations. I'd recommend using the official Tax Withholding Estimator on the IRS website or something like FreeTaxUSA which lets you run scenarios for free.
Hannah White
I had this same problem in 2023! The key thing to know is that you CANNOT file separate returns for different income sources. The US tax system requires one comprehensive return that includes ALL income sources. Here's what I did: 1) I used the same software I originally filed with (sounds like H&R Block for you) 2) Started an amended return (1040-X) 3) Added Schedule C for the side business income 4) Included Schedule SE to calculate self-employment tax 5) Paid the additional tax owed right away to minimize penalties Don't stress too much about it - this happens all the time, especially to people new to self-employment!
0 coins
Daniela Rossi
β’Thanks for breaking it down like this! Super helpful. Quick question - should I use H&R Block for the amended return even though I was trying to use TurboTax for the side business part? I'm not sure if going back to H&R Block will be easier or if I should just start fresh with TurboTax for the amendment.
0 coins
Hannah White
β’I'd recommend using H&R Block since they already have all your W-2 information and original return data in their system. Starting with TurboTax would mean re-entering all that information, which increases the chance of making errors. Most tax software keeps your information on file, so you should be able to log back into your H&R Block account and select the option to amend your return. This will pre-populate all your original information and let you add the additional schedules and income. It's generally much easier than starting from scratch with a different provider.
0 coins
Michael Green
A heads up about timing - I filed an amended return last year and it took about 20 weeks to process! The IRS is seriously backlogged with amended returns. Make sure you keep documentation showing when you filed the amendment in case there are any questions about late penalties.
0 coins
Mateo Silva
β’Does paying the owed tax immediately help avoid penalties even if the amended return takes forever to process? I'm in a similar boat with a side gig I forgot to report.
0 coins