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Don't forget about state taxes too! Depending on where you've owned properties, you might have state-specific obligations. When I did a partial 1031 exchange last year, I had to deal with state tax implications in addition to federal. Since your properties were in Washington, Nevada, and you mentioned exchanging into something new, check if any states have special rules about recognizing the deferred gain. Some states don't fully conform to federal 1031 treatment.
Good point about state taxes - I hadn't even thought about that angle. Do you know if taking cash out triggers state tax obligations in the states where the previous properties were located? Or is it just based on my current state of residence?
It primarily depends on your current state of residence, but some states can get complicated if properties were located there. For example, California is notorious for trying to tax the deferred gain when California property is exchanged for out-of-state property. In your case, since you previously owned property in Washington state, you're probably fine there as Washington doesn't have state income tax. Nevada also doesn't have state income tax, so no concerns with your current property. But wherever you're currently a resident will likely want their share of your recognized gain from the cash boot you're taking out.
One thing to watch out for with partial exchanges - make sure your qualified intermediary (QI) sets everything up correctly! I almost got burned last year when my QI didn't properly document which portion of the proceeds was going to the new property vs. being taken as boot. The IRS is super particular about how these partial exchanges are structured and documented. They need clear tracing of funds from sale to purchase, with the boot clearly identified.
This is so important! My brother did a partial 1031 last year and his QI made an error in the documentation that led to the entire exchange being disqualified. He ended up owing tax on the FULL gain, not just the cash he took out. Make sure you use a reputable QI who specializes in these partial exchanges.
Just wanted to add - if someone has unusually high income without a clear source (like in your movie example), the IRS has a specific division that looks for these discrepancies. It's called the Wealth Squad - officially the Global High Wealth Industry Group. They specifically target high-income individuals with complex financial situations. Also, banks are required to file Suspicious Activity Reports for unusual transactions, and anyone depositing more than $10k in cash triggers a Currency Transaction Report. So someone regularly making large cash deposits without a legitimate business would definitely get flagged.
This is super informative! I had no idea about the "Wealth Squad" - is this something regular people with side businesses need to worry about? Or is it more for super wealthy individuals? Like what's the threshold where they start getting interested?
The Wealth Squad typically focuses on individuals with income or assets over $10 million, so most regular people with side businesses wouldn't be on their radar specifically. However, anyone with unusual income patterns can still trigger standard IRS compliance flags. For more typical side businesses, it's the regular IRS examination divisions that might notice discrepancies. The important thing is maintaining good records that show the source of your income and legitimate business expenses. Unexplained deposits or lifestyle expenses that don't match reported income are what typically trigger closer examination, regardless of income level.
For the character in the movie, they'd probably be using shell companies and money laundering tbh. Movie characters always seem to have these elaborate financial setups that wouldn't work irl. In reality, the IRS would ABSOLUTELY notice someone with multiple properties and luxury spending with no visible income source. My cousin tried not reporting some side income from online sales thinking it was "too small to matter" and ended up with a $8k penalty. And that was just for like $30k in unreported income!
True about shell companies! I work in banking and you wouldn't believe how sophisticated some fraud schemes are. But even with elaborate setups, people eventually slip up. Either they can't resist flaunting wealth or they make a reporting mistake. That's usually how they get caught.
Quick warning: if your employer paid you as a 1099 contractor instead of a W-2 employee (which some shady companies do), you might be waiting for a W-2 that was never created. Check your last paystub to see if they were withholding taxes. If not, you might need to look for a 1099-NEC instead of a W-2. This happened to my wife and she wasted weeks trying to get a W-2 before realizing they had misclassified her as an independent contractor.
Thanks for bringing this up! I checked my paystubs and they definitely show federal and state tax withholding, so I should be getting a W-2. They were taking out Social Security and Medicare too. I'm thinking maybe they just don't have my current address since I moved shortly after leaving? But still, they should've responded to my emails asking about it. So frustrating.
That's good you confirmed they were withholding taxes! In that case, they're definitely required to provide a W-2. The address issue could definitely be part of the problem - sometimes companies just mail them to the last address they have on file. You might want to check if your former employer used a third-party payroll service like ADP, Paychex, or Gusto. If they did, you might be able to create an account directly with that service and access your W-2 electronically. Many of my past employers used these services, and I could get my tax forms even years later by logging into those platforms.
Has anyone tried going to the physical location of their former employer? I had a similar situation last year and after all electronic communication failed, I just showed up at the office and refused to leave until someone helped me. Miraculously, they "found" my W-2 within 15 minutes.
This actually works surprisingly well! When my husband's former employer was ignoring his requests, he physically went to their HR office. Amazing how quickly they produced his W-2 when he was standing right in front of them. Sometimes the old-school direct approach is still the most effective.
Don't forget about the state extension too! In many states, the federal extension automatically extends your state filing deadline too, but some states require a separate extension form. Google "[your state] tax extension" to make sure you're covering both bases.
California automatically grants you the same extension as federal (6 months) without requiring a separate form - but ONLY if you don't owe additional tax. If you do owe CA tax, you need to file Form FTB 3519 and make a payment by the original due date to avoid penalties. New York also gives an automatic extension matching the federal timeframe. Texas doesn't have state income tax so no worries there. Most states follow federal extensions but there are definitely exceptions, so always double-check your specific state's requirements.
I know most people are saying use the IRS Free File for extensions, but honestly just go through TaxAct or TaxSlayer. They let you file extensions completely free without income restrictions and their interface is wayyy more user friendly than the IRS direct option.
Anastasia Popov
Have you checked whether you might have taken bonus depreciation on some components of your rental properties in 2021? That could explain the big difference. With TurboTax, it's really easy to miss that you're taking bonus depreciation on eligible components (like appliances, carpeting, etc.) because it sometimes applies it automatically depending on how you answer certain questions.
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Malik Thompson
โขI actually hadn't considered bonus depreciation! That's a great point. I vaguely remember TurboTax asking something about "Section 179" and I think I might have said yes without fully understanding what it meant. Would that explain such a big difference?
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Anastasia Popov
โขYes, that would absolutely explain the difference! Section 179 expensing and bonus depreciation can make a huge difference in the first year. Instead of depreciating certain components over their normal useful life (5-7 years for appliances, 15 years for land improvements, etc.), you can deduct the full cost in year one. If you applied Section 179 to eligible components of your rental properties in TurboTax, you might have fully deducted thousands of dollars worth of appliances, carpet, window treatments, etc., which would make your first-year depreciation much higher. FreeTaxUSA is probably calculating just the regular residential real estate depreciation (building value รท 27.5 years) without any bonus components.
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Sean Murphy
Did you maybe include multiple properties in your TurboTax calculation but only entered one property in FreeTaxUSA? The numbers make me think you might have only transferred one of your three properties.
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Zara Khan
โขThis is what I was thinking too. If the total cost basis for all three properties was $758,175, but you're only entering one property into FreeTaxUSA, that would definitely cause a mismatch.
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