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Former tax professional here. A few things to consider: 1. Make sure you create and keep copies of everything - your W2s showing withholdings, the audit letter, and any responses. 2. If you do what the auditor suggests, get it in writing from them (email is fine) that they acknowledge your withholdings will be applied after the case is closed. 3. You might qualify for penalty abatement under First Time Penalty Abatement if you haven't had other penalties in the past 3 years. This is separate from the audit and you'd request it after the audit is closed. 4. The strangest part of your situation is that the tax preparer should have included your withholdings on the original return. This makes me wonder if they made other serious errors too.
Thank you for this advice! The preparer definitely made multiple errors - that's why I got audited in the first place. I'll definitely ask for written confirmation about the withholdings. Do I need to wait until after the audit is completely closed to request the First Time Penalty Abatement, or can I mention it to the auditor now?
You should wait until the audit is fully closed before requesting First Time Penalty Abatement. Auditors typically don't handle penalty abatement requests during the audit process. Once everything is settled and you've paid the adjusted amount, then submit your penalty abatement request. If you've had a clean compliance history for the past 3 tax years (no penalties), you have an excellent chance of getting the penalties removed. Just be aware this only applies to certain penalties like failure-to-file and failure-to-pay, not all audit-related penalties.
Did you sign the audit agreement yet? If not, you should specifically ask the auditor to note in the file that you had $18,500 in withholdings that should be applied to the $23,000 liability. While it's true another department handles this, having it documented by the auditor creates a paper trail.
This is important advice. I've been through an audit where information "got lost" between departments. Always get everything in writing and create documentation trails.
A quick tip from someone who files extensions EVERY year - if you're really stuck, just pay MORE than you think you'll owe. The IRS is happy to return your overpayment when you finally file. I always add about 20% to my estimate as a buffer. Yes, you're giving the government an interest-free loan, but the peace of mind knowing you won't face penalties is worth it to me. I'd rather get money back than worry about underpaying.
But what if you really need that money in the meantime? Not everyone can afford to overpay by 20%. Wouldn't it be better to try to get it right?
That's a totally valid point. It really depends on your financial situation. If cash flow is tight, then absolutely try to be more precise with your estimate. Use your previous year's return as a guide and adjust for any major changes in income or deductions. For those who can swing it though, overpaying provides a stress-free extension. Another approach is to aim for that 90% threshold mentioned earlier - pay enough to cover 90% of your expected tax, which should protect you from the more significant penalties. Either way, the key is making a reasonable effort to estimate correctly based on the information you have at the time.
Don't forget that each STATE has different rules for extensions too! The federal extension doesn't automatically apply to state taxes. Check your state's requirements separately. I learned this the hard way last year when I got hit with state penalties even though I had a federal extension. Some states require their own extension forms, and some don't give extensions for payment at all, just for filing.
This is so important! I made this mistake with California taxes and ended up with penalties. Does anyone know a good resource that breaks down the requirements by state?
One thing I learned the hard way with amendments - if you wait too long after discovering an error, the IRS can technically consider it "willful neglect" which carries much higher penalties. I'm not saying this to scare you, but just something to be aware of. In your case, waiting a few weeks for your refund is fine, but I wouldn't wait months. The official rule is that you should file an amendment "promptly after discovering the error" - which isn't very specific, I know. Generally, within 30-60 days of discovering the error keeps you in the clear.
Would the IRS actually know when I "discovered" the error though? Like if I file the amendment in a month, couldn't I just say I discovered it then? Not trying to be deceptive, just wondering how they determine when you knew about a mistake.
Technically the IRS doesn't know when you discovered the error unless there's some obvious paper trail (like they sent you a notice about it). However, I always advise being honest because if you ever did face an audit or review, lying about when you discovered an error could significantly compound your problems. In practice, filing an amendment within 1-2 months is generally considered prompt enough that the timing wouldn't be questioned. The IRS is primarily concerned with willful, long-term neglect - like someone discovering an error and waiting a year or more to correct it. Your scenario of waiting a few weeks for your refund before filing the amendment is completely reasonable.
I had almost the identical situation last year, but I went ahead and e-filed the amendment right away before getting my refund. Big mistake! The original refund and the amount I owed from the amendment got caught in this weird processing limbo where they wouldn't offset each other automatically. I ended up with the IRS sending me the full original refund, then a separate bill for what I owed plus a small penalty because the system didn't recognize I was trying to fix my own mistake proactively. Took almost 6 months and multiple calls to straighten out.
If I could ask a CPA anything, I'd want to know about tax planning strategies that actually work for middle class people. Not the fancy stuff for millionaires, but practical ways regular people with W2 jobs and maybe a side gig can legally reduce their tax burden. Like, are FSAs and HSAs worth it? Should I be making traditional or Roth contributions? Is a 529 plan actually good or are there better ways to save for my kid's college? When is it worth itemizing vs taking the standard deduction?
This is such a good point. Most tax advice seems geared toward either really poor people qualifying for earned income credits or rich people with complex investments. What about us regular folks making between $60-120k? We need help too!
Exactly! The middle class gets squeezed the most it seems. We make too much to qualify for many credits but not enough to benefit from fancy tax strategies with investment properties and such. I think most people in our situation just don't know what options we have available. I'd love practical advice like "if you make X amount, here are the 3 most impactful things you can do to reduce your tax bill" with actual numbers and examples. Or even a checklist of things to consider based on your life situation (married, kids, homeowner, etc).
I'd ask a CPA about all these tax prep software options. Is TurboTax really worth the money? Are there better alternatives? And what things should I absolutely NOT try to DIY even with software help? I always worry I'm missing something major by doing my own taxes.
I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA last year and saved like $120 for basically the same service. But I'm always nervous about missing something too. Would love to know from an actual CPA what tax situations are too complex for software.
QuantumQuest
Something else to consider - check if you're paying the correct estimated quarterly taxes for your husband's business. As a reseller, he's self-employed and should be making quarterly payments if he expects to owe more than $1,000 in taxes for the year. This was a painful lesson for me my first year selling online. I made good money but didn't pay quarterly, and got hit with underpayment penalties on top of a big tax bill. Now I set aside about 30% of profits each quarter and make estimated payments. Completely avoided surprises this year!
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Mateo Rodriguez
ā¢I didn't even think about quarterly taxes! We haven't been paying anything throughout the year. Is it too late to fix this for last year? And how do we figure out how much to pay each quarter going forward?
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QuantumQuest
ā¢It's too late to fix last year's quarterly payments now, but you can avoid penalties going forward by starting them this year. For most resellers, you need to pay estimated taxes if you expect to owe $1,000+ at tax time. For calculating the amount, you can either pay 100% of last year's tax liability divided into four payments (the "safe harbor" method), or 90% of what you expect to owe this year. I personally set aside 30% of my net profit each month and make payments on the quarterly due dates (April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15). There's a form called 1040-ES that helps with calculations, or your tax software should have an estimated tax calculator. Start now and you'll avoid the shock next tax season!
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Jamal Anderson
Don't forget about state taxes too! A lot of resellers focus so much on federal that they forget their state might also require quarterly payments and have different rules for deductions.
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Mei Zhang
ā¢And sales tax! If you're selling online, the marketplace might collect it for you (like eBay or Amazon) but if you sell directly you might need to collect and remit sales tax depending on your state and sales volume. That tripped me up my first year.
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