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Have you considered looking into an Offer in Compromise? If you truly can't pay the full amount, the IRS might accept a smaller payment to settle the debt. My brother-in-law owed about $25k and ended up settling for around $8k because of his financial situation. You need to complete Form 656 and pay a $205 application fee. It's not easy to get approved, but it might be worth exploring if your financial situation is really tight. The IRS looks at your income, expenses, asset equity, and ability to pay.
Is this something I could do myself or would I need my CPA to handle it? And do you know how long the process typically takes? I'm worried about interest continuing to build while I wait for a decision.
You can certainly do it yourself using the IRS's Form 656 Booklet which includes instructions, but having your CPA help might increase your chances of success since they understand what the IRS is looking for in terms of documentation and financial hardship proof. The process typically takes 6-12 months for the IRS to evaluate and make a decision. Interest and penalties do continue to accrue during this time, which is a downside. However, if you're approved, those additional amounts would be included in the settlement. If you're rejected, you'd still have the option to set up a payment plan for the full amount. Many people start with a payment plan and then apply for an Offer in Compromise if they realize they truly can't manage the payments.
Just wanted to add that you should DEFINITELY make sure you're tracking all legitimate business expenses for your freelance work! When I started freelancing, I was shocked at how many things I could deduct: - Portion of home internet - Cell phone (% used for business) - Home office space - Computer equipment and software - Professional subscriptions - Continuing education/courses - Mileage for business travel - Health insurance premiums - Professional services (like your CPA fees) These deductions make a HUGE difference in your self-employment tax. My first year I paid way too much because I wasn't tracking these expenses properly.
Don't forget about the Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A)! For most freelancers, you can deduct up to 20% of your net business income. Saved me thousands last year.
A word of caution - I was in almost exactly your situation in 2023 and I made a mistake with my dual-status filing. I incorrectly reported some foreign income I received during my NRA period and ended up getting a CP2000 notice from the IRS requiring additional tax plus interest. Double-check everything and consider using a tax professional who specializes in international taxation. The rules for dual-status aliens are super complicated, especially regarding things like foreign tax credits and treaty benefits. Definitely not something I'd recommend doing yourself unless you're 100% confident.
Has anyone successfully e-filed a dual-status return? I tried last year and every tax software I used (even the "premium" versions) said I had to print and mail it. Seems ridiculous in 2024 that we still have to mail these returns.
As a married guy who's been filing jointly for years, here's my two cents - if your financial situation is just two W-2s and standard deductions, TurboTax will work fine. But if you start having investments, rental property, or significant itemized deductions, an accountant starts to pay for themselves. The first year filing jointly is a good time to establish a relationship with an accountant. Even if you don't use them every year, having someone who knows your tax situation can be invaluable when more complex questions come up. One thing to consider - at your income level, you might be approaching some phase-out thresholds for certain deductions and credits. An accountant might help identify tax planning opportunities for future years.
For the tax debt situation specifically, an accountant can provide strategic advice, but they don't have any special access to the IRS. They'd likely advise you to contact the IRS directly to set up a payment plan or explore settlement options. A tax professional might be able to help determine if any of the debt can be addressed through penalty abatement requests or other relief programs. They can also advise on whether filing jointly or separately makes more sense given the outstanding debt. But for actually resolving the debt, you'll still need to work directly with the IRS one way or another.
Make sure you look into the marriage penalty! My spouse and I were shocked when we filed jointly for the first time. Our combined income pushed us into a higher bracket and we ended up owing way more than we expected. The worst part was realizing after the fact that we could have saved money by filing separately that year. Def run the numbers both ways before deciding!!
The marriage penalty isn't as bad as it used to be after the 2017 tax changes, but it can still hit high earners. At their income level (over $400k combined), they could definitely face some penalty. I'd suggest looking at the actual tax brackets for 2024 and calculating both ways. Don't just assume joint is better!
Another option is to use the IRS Free File Fillable Forms. It's completely free no matter what credits you qualify for. The downside is that it's basically like filling out paper forms but on a computer - there's minimal guidance. But if you're fairly comfortable with taxes and just need to claim the Retirement Savings Credit, it might be worth looking into.
Does the IRS Free File Fillable Forms have any income limits? I make around $85k and often get locked out of the "free" options.
The Free File Fillable Forms have no income limits at all - they're available to everyone regardless of income. That's different from the IRS Free File Program partners (like TurboTax Free File, etc.) which typically have a $73,000 income limit. The trade-off is that Fillable Forms provide no guidance or calculations - you're basically just filling in digital versions of the paper forms. You need to know which forms to complete and how to do the calculations yourself. Form 8880 for the Retirement Savings Credit isn't terribly complicated though, especially if you're just claiming for yourself and spouse.
Just so you know, the Retirement Savings Contributions Credit phases out at higher income levels. If you're married filing jointly, it starts phasing out at $43,500 and completely disappears at $73,000 (for 2023 taxes). For singles, it phases out between $21,750-$36,500. Are you sure you actually qualify? If you're right on the edge, maybe double-check your AGI calculation. You might not actually qualify for the credit, which would solve the problem entirely.
Honorah King
A tip from someone who's been in this situation for years: if you don't want to mess with complicated W4 calculations, you can also just put an additional flat dollar amount to withhold on line 4(c) of your main job's W4. A rough estimate: take your expected annual income from the second job, find your marginal tax bracket percentage, and divide that amount by the number of pay periods left at your main job. For example, if your side gig pays $6,000/year and you're in the 22% bracket, that's $1,320 in potential additional tax. If you get paid bi-weekly at your main job and have 10 pay periods left in the year, add $132 to line 4(c). This isn't perfect but it's a simple approach that has kept me from owing big amounts at tax time.
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Oliver Brown
ā¢Would this still work if both jobs have widely different pay? My main job is about $75k but my weekend job only brings in like $9k. I'm worried about being in different tax brackets.
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Honorah King
ā¢Yes, it still works with different pay levels! The important thing is to calculate based on your highest marginal tax bracket when combining all income. At $75k for your main job, you're already in the 22% federal bracket (assuming single filing status). The additional $9k from your weekend job would also be taxed at 22% federally. So you'd take $9,000 Ć 0.22 = $1,980 in additional tax for the year. Then divide that by your remaining pay periods to get the per-paycheck additional withholding amount. Just remember this is a simplified approach. If you're close to moving into a higher bracket with the combined income, you might want to use the IRS calculator for more precision.
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Mary Bates
don't forget about social security and medicare taxes!! those are flat percentages (6.2% for social security up to the wage base and 1.45% for medicare on all earned income). so even if your income tax withholding is correct, having two jobs might mess with these calculations if you're near the social security wage base limit also some states have their own withholding forms separate from the federal W4. i learned this the hard way and ended up owing $800 to my state even though my federal was fine!!!
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Clay blendedgen
ā¢This is a really good point. Does the social security cap apply per employer or across all your jobs combined? I work three part-time jobs and I'm nowhere near the cap with any single one.
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