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Does anyone know if there's a specific reason they shut down Direct Pay during that window? Seems like a weird time since many people do their taxes late at night.
I'm guessing it's for system maintenance and updates. Most big financial systems have a daily maintenance window - banks often do similar things in the middle of the night. 11:45pm-midnight ET probably affects the fewest users across all US time zones while still being overnight for the IRS east coast operations.
That makes sense about the maintenance window. Just seems poorly timed during tax season when so many of us are burning the midnight oil trying to get things filed. They should at least put a more visible warning on the site about it!
Quick question for anyone who's done this $1 extension trick - does the payment confirmation serve as proof of your extension? Like should I save that confirmation page as documentation?
Yes, absolutely save the payment confirmation as proof. Take a screenshot or save the PDF they email you. While the IRS system should automatically register your extension when you make that payment, having documentation is crucial if there's ever a question about whether you filed for an extension on time. I recommend saving it in multiple places (email, cloud storage, etc.) just to be safe. I've had clients who needed this proof years later during audits.
Thanks for confirming! I just did the $1 payment and saved both a screenshot and the PDF they sent. Feeling much better now knowing I have solid proof of the extension filing. I need the extra time to sort through some investment documents that still haven't arrived.
One important thing to note: make sure you're checking your mailbox regularly through April 2025. After these kinds of corrections, the IRS sometimes sends a follow-up CP2000 notice or requests additional information. The worst thing you can do is miss a deadline because you didn't open mail promptly. These notices often have 30-day response windows, and missing them can lead to default assessments or lost appeal rights. Also, double check that the address the IRS has on file for you is current. You'd be surprised how many people move and forget to update their address with the IRS, then miss important notices.
Good call - we're actually planning to move in March. What's the best way to update our address with the IRS? Is that something we should do before filing our 2024 taxes?
You should definitely update your address before you move. The easiest way is to file Form 8822 (Change of Address) directly with the IRS. You can download it from IRS.gov and mail it in. While putting your new address on your 2024 return will eventually update their records, that could take months to process, and you don't want to risk missing any correspondence in the meantime. If you're moving in March, I'd recommend sending the Form 8822 about 2-3 weeks before your move. Also make sure you file a change of address with USPS so they forward any IRS mail that might still go to your old address during the transition period.
This exact thing happened to my cousin! It was closer to $13k though. He spent the money right away (bad move) and then had to scramble to pay it back plus the fee. His accountant explained it was due to a duplicate processing of something on the return. The IRS computer systems are honestly ancient and these errors happen more than they should. I think they're still using code from like the 1960s for some of their systems.
Another suggestion - check if you qualify for a First Time Penalty Abatement. If you've had a clean tax record for the past 3 years (filed and paid on time), you might be able to get the failure-to-pay penalties removed, which could save you a few hundred dollars on a $6,000 balance. You have to specifically ask for this though - the IRS won't automatically apply it.
Thanks for mentioning this! I've definitely filed and paid on time for the last several years. How do I request this abatement? Is it something I ask for when setting up the payment plan, or is it a separate process?
You can request it when you call to set up your payment plan. Just specifically mention that you'd like to request a "First Time Penalty Abatement" based on your history of compliance. The agent should be able to check your eligibility on the spot. If they approve it, they'll remove the failure-to-pay penalties, though interest will still apply to your balance. If you set up your payment plan online, you'll need to call separately to request the abatement. Make sure to do this sooner rather than later - it's easier to get penalties removed before you've paid them than to get a refund afterward.
Make sure you adjust your withholding or make estimated tax payments this year so you don't end up in the same situation next year! The IRS gets really annoyed if you have back-to-back years with big underpayments. Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website to figure out how much you should be paying throughout the year.
This is super important! My brother had to pay penalties two years in a row because he didn't adjust his withholding after the first time he owed a lot. The second time, the IRS was way less forgiving about waiving penalties.
TaxSlayer has worked great for me for prior year returns! Their interface is straightforward and they charge way less than TurboTax. I used it last year for a similar situation (had filed an extension and then needed to submit). One thing to remember: if you owe any money for 2023, you'll likely have some penalties and interest since those continued accruing even with the extension. The extension only gives you more time to file, not more time to pay. The software should calculate this for you though.
Thanks for mentioning the penalties! I wasn't aware of that distinction with extensions. Do you know roughly how much those penalties typically run? I'm worried now because I definitely didn't pay anything back in April when I filed the extension.
The failure-to-pay penalty is usually about 0.5% of your unpaid taxes per month, with a maximum of 25%. There's also interest that compounds daily at the federal short-term rate plus 3%. It's not catastrophic for most people with simple returns, especially if you're due a refund (in which case there's no penalty at all). But if you owe a significant amount, it can add up. Most tax software will calculate this automatically once you input when you're filing.
Just want to throw in another option that nobody's mentioned yet - the IRS has VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) sites that can help file prior year returns for FREE if you make under $60,000. Since you're still a dependent, you might qualify.
VITA is amazing, but most sites are only operational during the regular tax season (Jan-Apr). It can be hard to find VITA services for prior year returns in October.
Lena Kowalski
One thing nobody's mentioning is that the β¬750M threshold is actually pretty high! This only affects the very largest multinational companies. Small and medium businesses (even fairly large ones by most standards) won't be directly impacted by these rules. Also worth noting that the implementation timeline keeps getting pushed back. Originally supposed to start in 2023, now many jurisdictions are talking about 2024 or even 2025 before they have local legislation in place. The US delay is particularly problematic since so many multinationals are headquartered there.
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DeShawn Washington
β’Does that β¬750M threshold apply to the global company or just operations in a specific country? Like if a company makes β¬800M worldwide but only β¬100M in France, would it still be subject to the minimum tax in France?
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Lena Kowalski
β’The β¬750M threshold applies to global consolidated revenue of the multinational group, not the revenue in each specific country. So in your example, a company with β¬800M worldwide revenue would be subject to the minimum tax rules even if they only had β¬100M in France. This is actually one of the key points of the agreement - it's designed to capture large multinationals that might have relatively small operations spread across many countries. The threshold was set to target the largest 10-15% of multinational enterprises while excluding smaller companies that would face disproportionate compliance burdens.
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Mei-Ling Chen
As someone who works with emerging markets, I think the impact on developing countries is being overlooked. Many use tax incentives to attract foreign investment because they can't compete with developed nations on infrastructure, workforce, etc. This agreement potentially removes one of their few competitive advantages. That's likely why Kenya and Nigeria haven't signed on. They see it as developed nations protecting their tax bases at the expense of developing economies' growth strategies. The revenue redistribution under Pillar One is supposed to address this, but the formulas tend to favor larger economies.
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SofΓa RodrΓguez
β’That's a really good point. Do you think there's any chance the OECD will modify the agreement to address these concerns? Or are developing nations just going to be left behind?
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