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I've owned Energy Transfer LP for years and have always had Box 16 checked. I've never waited for the K3 and never had an issue. My accountant says that unless you have other foreign investments or are claiming foreign tax credits, the K3 information is essentially irrelevant to your return. The way I understand it, the checkbox is basically saying "this partnership has some foreign activity" but that doesn't mean YOU have any foreign reporting requirements. It's similar to how some of these MLPs have tax-exempt income that flows through to you - the fact that the partnership has it doesn't necessarily create a special filing requirement for you.
Have you ever been audited though? I'm worried that ignoring anything on the K1 could trigger something later. Just because you haven't had an issue yet doesn't mean the IRS won't come back years later.
No, I've never been audited for this issue. You're not really "ignoring" anything on the K-1 though - you're using all the information that's relevant to your individual tax situation. The K3 just provides additional detail for certain foreign transactions that most domestic investors don't need to report. The IRS generally focuses audit resources on areas where significant tax might be underreported. For most domestic investors in MLPs, waiting for a K3 that won't change your tax liability isn't likely to be a high audit priority. I've been filing this way for over 7 years with multiple MLPs and haven't received so much as a notice.
Does anyone know if TurboTax handles this situation properly? When I enter my K1s from my MLPs (MPLX and Enterprise Products), it keeps showing a warning about foreign transactions and suggests I might need to wait for additional information. But from reading this thread, it sounds like I can ignore that warning since I'm only a US investor?
TurboTax is super annoying with MLP K-1s. I had the same warning last year and called their support. They confirmed that if you're a US-only investor with no foreign tax credit claims, you can override that warning and proceed with filing. There's actually a checkbox somewhere in the foreign income section where you can indicate you have no foreign filing requirements.
Remember the tax cuts expire after 2025! So even if you benefited, your taxes will likely go up in 2026 unless Congress acts to extend them. I'm already planning ahead by increasing my 401k contributions to offset the expected increase. My situation: family of 4 in Texas (no state income tax). We saved about $3,200/year with the changes - mostly from the expanded Child Tax Credit and lower rates. But I calculated that when things revert in 2026, we'll pay about $2,800 more than we do now.
Do we know for sure they're expiring? I thought there was talk about making some of the changes permanent.
As the law currently stands, most of the individual tax provisions will expire after 2025. Congress would need to pass new legislation to extend them. Some of the business provisions were made permanent, but the personal income tax changes were temporary. There's always talk about extending popular tax cuts, but that requires congressional action. Given how difficult it is to get anything passed these days, I'm planning for the expiration while hoping for an extension. Best to be prepared either way.
Has anyone used TurboTax to model what will happen in 2026 when the cuts expire? I'm trying to do some retirement planning and need to figure out if I should accelerate income into 2024-2025 or defer to later years.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - you should think about protecting yourself throughout this process. I reported financial wrongdoing at my company a few years ago, and even though there are supposed to be whistleblower protections, it got really uncomfortable at work. Document EVERYTHING from the moment you discovered the embezzlement. Keep copies of all communications about it. If you have emails or messages where you reported it to the owner, save those somewhere outside of your work accounts.
That's really good advice - I didn't even think about potential blowback. Did you experience retaliation at your job after reporting? I've already saved some evidence on my personal drive and took screenshots of the conversations with my boss, but I should probably be more systematic about it.
I did face some subtle retaliation. Nothing they could get in legal trouble for, but I was suddenly excluded from meetings, my ideas were dismissed, and I was passed over for a promotion that I was previously told was coming my way. Beyond what you're already doing, I'd recommend keeping a detailed journal with dates, times, and descriptions of all conversations about the embezzlement. Include who was present and what was discussed. If you have verbal conversations, follow up with an email summarizing what was discussed ("Just to confirm our conversation today about..."). This creates a paper trail. Also, familiarize yourself with whistleblower protection laws in your state, as they vary significantly. The federal protections mainly apply to government employees or contractors, not necessarily private business employees.
Since everyone's talking about bonuses and taxes, anyone know if it's better to get your bonus in December or January from a tax perspective? My company lets us choose and I never know which is better.
January is almost always better because you defer the taxes for a whole year. I always push mine to January.
I always get pissed about bonus taxes too but then I just remember - you're getting a BONUS! Some extra money is better than no extra money lol. And you'll get some back when you file. Just think of it as forced savings.
Lim Wong
Check your divorce decree! Mine specifically stated how tax refunds or liabilities from joint returns would be handled even after the divorce was final. The language in that legal document will likely override general tax guidance. Also, in my state, money used to pay a marital debt (which the incorrectly assessed tax was) that comes back as a refund is typically considered marital property subject to division, regardless of whose name is on the court case. But this varies a lot by state.
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Dananyl Lear
ā¢Does it matter that she refused to participate in the tax court case though? Seems unfair if she gets half when she thought it was a waste of time and wouldn't help.
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Lim Wong
ā¢While it seems unfair, her refusal to participate in the tax court case typically wouldn't eliminate her right to part of the refund. Courts generally look at the source of the funds used to pay the original tax bill (joint savings in your case) rather than who pursued getting it back. Think of it this way - if you had a joint debt that she paid from joint funds, and later you discovered an error and got a refund, the nature of the original payment (joint funds for a joint liability) usually determines how courts view the refund. Your efforts to secure the refund might entitle you to compensation for your time and costs, but the underlying refund typically remains jointly owned if it came from a joint return paid with joint funds.
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Noah huntAce420
i went thru something similar last yr... my advice is DON'T TOUCH THAT MONEY until u talk to ur divorce lawyer!! i deposited a tax refund check and spent it, then got in huge trouble with the judge later. they made me pay my ex half PLUS a penalty. not worth it!!!
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Ana Rusula
ā¢What kind of penalty did they give you? Was it just interest or something more?
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