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Don't forget about state taxes on capital gains too! Depending on your state, you might owe additional tax on those gains. Some states tax capital gains at the same rate as ordinary income, while others have their own special rates. I got hit with an unexpected state tax bill last year because I only focused on federal.
Ugh I didn't even think about state taxes! I'm in California - does anyone know how they handle capital gains? Is it just added to regular income?
California taxes all capital gains as ordinary income at your marginal tax rate, which can go as high as 13.3% for high-income earners. There's no special capital gains rate like there is federally. So your $32,000 in gains will be taxed at your regular CA income tax rate. For other readers: States vary widely in how they handle capital gains. Some like Nevada, Florida, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming have no state income tax at all, so no capital gains tax. Others like New Hampshire only tax investment income.
Anyone know if tax loss harvesting is still worth it for offsetting capital gains? I have some stocks that are down about $8k this year and wondering if I should sell them to offset some of my gains from other investments.
Absolutely worth it! You can offset capital gains completely with capital losses, and if your losses exceed your gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 against ordinary income. Any remaining losses can be carried forward to future years. Just be careful of wash sale rules if you plan to buy back similar investments within 30 days.
Maybe consider a third approach that worked for me: hire a bookkeeper for just her tutoring business. For my wife's art sales, we hired a college student studying accounting for like $25/hour who comes once a month, sorts through her receipts, and maintains simple income/expense tracking. This removes the personal tension between you two and creates accountability with an outside person. My wife doesn't mind showing her "financial mess" to the bookkeeper since there's no judgment, and it's been worth EVERY penny for our marriage!
Don't forget that ultimately YOU are responsible too if you sign a joint return. My ex-husband had unreported income and guess who the IRS came after years later? BOTH OF US! Even after we were divorced! I had to file for innocent spouse relief which was a nightmare to prove. Either get her to cooperate, file separately, or prepare for potential consequences. The IRS doesn't care about your marriage dynamics, they just want their money and proper reporting.
Have you tried looking at the actual tax forms that were submitted? If you go to your TurboTax account, you should be able to download a PDF of your actual submitted return. Check Form 1040 specifically and look at the filing status checkbox that was selected and whether the dependents section is filled out correctly. I had a similar issue last year and discovered that somehow my dependents weren't linked to my return even though I had entered all their information. The PDF showed what was actually sent to the IRS versus what I thought I was submitting.
Thanks for the suggestion! I just downloaded the PDF from TurboTax and you're right - the form shows "Single" checked even though the TurboTax interface was showing "Married Filing Separately" throughout the whole process. And the dependents section only lists one of my children, not both! No wonder the refund dropped so much. Should I file an amended return now or try to contact the IRS first?
I would recommend filing an amended return (Form 1040-X) as soon as possible. The IRS won't automatically fix this kind of error, and waiting for them to contact you could take months and potentially lead to issues with your refund. When you file the amendment, make sure to clearly indicate that you're changing from Single to Married Filing Separately and adding the missing dependent. Include all required supporting documentation for the dependent claim. If you do this quickly, it might not significantly delay your refund, though amended returns typically take longer to process than original returns.
I'm a little confused... if you and your wife are still together, why did you choose Married Filing Separately instead of Married Filing Jointly? MFJ usually gives better tax benefits in most situations, especially when one spouse isn't working. You might actually get an even bigger refund if you change to MFJ.
Not always true! There are situations where MFS makes more sense, like if one spouse has income-based student loan payments, certain medical deductions, or if there are liability concerns. My husband and I file separately because it significantly lowers my income-based repayment for student loans.
We chose MFS mainly because of my wife's student loan situation. She's on an income-based repayment plan, and filing jointly would increase her required payments since they'd be based on our combined income. We've run the numbers both ways and even with the tax benefits of MFJ, we still come out ahead with MFS when factoring in the loan payment savings. What's frustrating is that I carefully selected MFS but somehow TurboTax changed it to Single without clearly showing me that change was happening. I need to get this fixed ASAP!
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're planning to hold for 10 years, consider using a tax-advantaged account like a Roth IRA instead of a regular brokerage account. With a Roth, you won't pay ANY taxes on that $10k growth when you withdraw in retirement. There are income limits and contribution limits to be aware of though.
Thats a really good point - I didnt even think about using a retirement account! Arent there penalties though if I need to take the money out before retirement age?
Yes, there are penalties if you withdraw the earnings before age 59½ - typically a 10% penalty plus taxes. However, you can always withdraw your original contributions (not the earnings) from a Roth IRA at any time without penalties or taxes. So in your example, you could always take out the original $20k anytime you want with no penalty. Only the $10k in gains would be subject to penalties for early withdrawal. This makes Roth IRAs more flexible than other retirement accounts while still giving you the tax advantages.
Another option is tax-loss harvesting if youve got investments that go down. Basically you sell losers to offset any gains in a given year. I saved about $1200 in taxes last year doing this strategically.
But be careful with wash sale rules! If you buy the same or "substantially identical" stock within 30 days before or after selling at a loss, you can't claim that loss for tax purposes. I learned this the hard way.
Lia Quinn
As a small accounting firm owner, I've dealt with these W-2 penalties several times. One thing not mentioned yet - make sure to specify in your request that you want an abatement of both the penalty AND any interest that's accrued on the penalty amount. The IRS sometimes will remove the penalty but forget to remove the interest. Also, if your first request is denied (which happens sometimes automatically), appeal it! The appeals process often gets you in front of someone who has more authority to consider the circumstances. We've had about 70% success rate with penalty abatements when we show a clear timeline and documentation of efforts to comply.
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Bruno Simmons
ā¢Thanks for mentioning the interest part - I wouldn't have thought of that! Do you typically include bank statements or something to prove when we called the SSA? I'm trying to figure out what kind of documentation would be most convincing.
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Lia Quinn
ā¢For documentation, phone records are helpful if you have them, but emails are better since they show the content of the communication. If you have any confirmation emails from when you registered the new employee with the SSA, definitely include those. Screenshots of the registration process showing dates are also useful. The postmarked envelope that contained your PIN is excellent evidence - keep that if you still have it! What really helps is creating a simple timeline document that lines up all your actions chronologically so the IRS can easily see your good faith efforts. The clearer you make it for them, the better your chances.
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Haley Stokes
Just wondering - did anyone try the IRS's Online Payment Agreement system for this? We had a smaller W-2 penalty (about $2800) and couldn't get it abated, but we were able to set up a payment plan over 72 months which made it much more manageable. The interest rate wasn't terrible compared to other options.
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Asher Levin
ā¢I did this for a different tax issue. The online setup was pretty easy but there's a small setup fee. I think it was like $130 for the online application but would have been more if I'd done it by phone or mail. Just be aware that interest continues to accrue on the outstanding balance throughout the payment plan.
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