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Sean Flanagan

Married filing jointly but spouse refuses to share her tutoring income details for tax filing

I'm at my wits end trying to file our taxes jointly. My spouse has a small tutoring business on the side but completely avoids giving me any details about her income or expenses. Every tax season, I attempt to organize her financial information so we can properly report everything, but she constantly dodges the topic. I'm pretty sure she's not hiding anything deliberately - she just seems to have a complete mental block when it comes to dealing with finances or paperwork. Her record-keeping is practically non-existent. I'm worried about potential penalties if we get audited, and I've told her she'll be responsible for any fines if the IRS comes knocking. Has anyone dealt with a similar situation? What options do I have for filing jointly when one spouse won't cooperate with providing their income information?

Zara Shah

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This is actually a common situation! When one spouse handles finances and the other avoids them, it creates tax filing challenges. Here's what you can do: First, you could file as "Married Filing Separately" to protect yourself, but that usually results in higher overall taxes and lost deductions/credits. A better approach might be to sit down together and explain that you're not judging her financial habits, but need basic information to keep both of you out of trouble with the IRS. Sometimes setting up a simple system helps - like a dedicated folder where she can just toss receipts and income notes throughout the year. For the tutoring income specifically, you need to know her approximate income and business expenses. The IRS expects self-employment income to be reported on Schedule C, and she'll likely owe self-employment tax on that income. If she's being paid in cash, she should at least keep a simple log of payments received.

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NebulaNomad

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I have the same situation with my husband! How much could the penalties be if she's only making a small amount from tutoring? And would I be liable for those penalties too since we file jointly?

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Zara Shah

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Penalties can vary based on several factors including the amount unreported and whether the IRS determines it was negligent or intentional. For small amounts, you might face a 20% accuracy-related penalty on the unpaid tax amount, plus interest that compounds daily. Yes, when you sign a joint return, you're both generally liable for all taxes, penalties, and interest - that's called "joint and several liability." There is something called Innocent Spouse Relief, but it's difficult to qualify for if you knew about the income but just didn't have details. Your best protection is getting that information and reporting it accurately.

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Luca Ferrari

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Nia Wilson

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I'm skeptical about these tax services. Isn't this just glorified OCR that charges you for what tax software already does? What's special about it that would help with a spouse who avoids financial discussions altogether?

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Luca Ferrari

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StarStrider

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Yuki Sato

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Have you considered just doing separate taxes? My wife and I file "married filing separately" precisely because she has a small business with inconsistent income and I don't want to deal with it. Yes, we probably pay a bit more in taxes overall, but the reduced stress and arguments are worth every penny to me. Just make sure you coordinate on who claims any kids as dependents.

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Sean Flanagan

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I've thought about filing separately, but doesn't that mean we'd lose a lot of tax benefits? We have mortgage interest deductions, student loan interest, and childcare expenses. I read somewhere that filing separately really increases your tax burden overall.

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Yuki Sato

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You're right that you'll lose some tax benefits. When you file separately, neither of you can take the student loan interest deduction, and the child tax credit goes only to the parent claiming the child. The mortgage interest deduction goes to whoever pays it (or is split if you both pay). I calculated the difference for my situation and it was about $1,800 more in total taxes by filing separately. But for me, that's my "sanity fee" - worth it to avoid the annual struggle of trying to get my wife's business documentation in order. You might want to do a quick calculation with last year's numbers using both filing methods to see exactly what the difference would be in your case.

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Carmen Ruiz

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Maybe consider a third approach that worked for me: hire a bookkeeper for just her tutoring business. For my wife's art sales, we hired a college student studying accounting for like $25/hour who comes once a month, sorts through her receipts, and maintains simple income/expense tracking. This removes the personal tension between you two and creates accountability with an outside person. My wife doesn't mind showing her "financial mess" to the bookkeeper since there's no judgment, and it's been worth EVERY penny for our marriage!

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Wouldn't a bookkeeper be expensive for just a small tutoring income? Seems like overkill unless she's making significant money from it.

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Don't forget that ultimately YOU are responsible too if you sign a joint return. My ex-husband had unreported income and guess who the IRS came after years later? BOTH OF US! Even after we were divorced! I had to file for innocent spouse relief which was a nightmare to prove. Either get her to cooperate, file separately, or prepare for potential consequences. The IRS doesn't care about your marriage dynamics, they just want their money and proper reporting.

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