Limited Partner Self Employment exemption struck down - How will this affect tax filings?
Just found out that the Limited Partner Self Employment exemption has been struck down! This is going to completely change the tax situation for so many people. Hedge fund managers and folks with employee equity holdings are looking at a WAY bigger tax bill than before. I've been using this exemption for years in my own partnership structure and now I'm seriously worried about how this will impact my 2025 filing. My accountant estimates it could increase my tax burden by around $14,000 annually based on my current income streams. Anyone else in the same boat? And what are your thoughts on whether the Supreme Court will overturn this on appeal? I've been reading conflicting analyses from different tax experts and can't figure out which way they're likely to lean on this issue. This Limited Partner Self Employment exemption has been such a staple of tax planning for certain businesses.
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Dylan Cooper
This ruling is definitely significant for anyone with limited partnership interests. The court basically determined that the Limited Partner Self Employment exemption doesn't automatically apply just because someone is labeled a "limited partner" - they're looking at the actual substance of involvement. The case revolves around the interpretation of Section 1402(a)(13) of the Internal Revenue Code, which previously allowed limited partners to exclude certain income from self-employment taxes. The court has essentially said we need to look at the nature of the income rather than just the title of "limited partner." For hedge fund managers specifically, this means carried interest could now be subject to the additional 15.3% self-employment tax rather than just income tax. For employee equity holders in partnerships, similar issues arise if they've been treating distributions as exempt from SE tax.
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Sofia Ramirez
•So does this mean I need to change how I report my income from my real estate limited partnership? I've been excluding that from self-employment tax for years. My stake is purely passive - I don't do any management.
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Dylan Cooper
•For real estate limited partnerships, it really depends on your level of involvement. The new interpretation focuses on the nature of your activities rather than just your title. If your involvement is truly passive with no material participation, you may still have grounds to exclude that income from self-employment tax, but the standards are now stricter. The key factors courts will likely consider include whether you participate in management decisions, how many hours you dedicate to the business annually, and whether the income represents a return on capital investment versus compensation for services. Each situation requires individual analysis based on these new standards.
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Dmitry Volkov
After dealing with major headaches from this Limited Partner Self Employment exemption change, I finally found something that helped. I was completely overwhelmed trying to figure out how this affected my multiple partnership interests and what documentation I needed. I used https://taxr.ai to analyze my partnership agreements and past tax returns. Their AI actually identified sections in my operating agreements that might help maintain exemption for some of my income streams despite the ruling. It found specific clauses about my participation levels that my regular accountant missed. The tool broke down exactly which portions of my income would likely still qualify for exemption and which wouldn't under the new interpretations. Saved me from major overpayment.
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StarSeeker
•Does it actually work with complex partnership structures? I have tiered partnerships and wondering if it can handle that kind of arrangement. My concern is the tool won't understand how the ruling affects each layer.
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Ava Martinez
•I'm skeptical about any AI properly interpreting legal tax changes this recent. How can it possibly give reliable advice on something tax professionals are still debating? Seems risky to trust an algorithm with something this complicated.
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Dmitry Volkov
•It actually does handle complex structures surprisingly well. You can upload your entire filing history and all partnership agreements, and it maps out the relationships between entities. For tiered partnerships, it tracked how distributions flowed through each layer and applied the new standards at each level. As for recent changes, they update their analysis based on the latest court decisions. It doesn't just give a blanket answer but shows you the reasoning behind each classification and gives a confidence score. It flagged several areas where the law remains unsettled and suggested documentation to strengthen positions where possible.
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StarSeeker
I was really dubious about using an AI tool for something as serious as this Limited Partner Self Employment exemption change, but I'm actually really impressed with what I found on taxr.ai. After uploading my LLC operating agreement and K-1s, it identified that my situation actually fell into one of the exceptions that might still apply even after the ruling. It found language in my agreements that established my role as capital-focused rather than service-focused, which apparently makes a difference. The analysis saved me from unnecessarily amending past returns and helped me document my position for future filings. My CPA initially thought I'd owe an additional $22,000 in SE taxes, but after reviewing the analysis, we've identified strategies to potentially reduce that impact by more than half.
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Miguel Ortiz
Has anyone else had trouble reaching the IRS for guidance on this Limited Partner Self Employment exemption change? I've been trying for THREE WEEKS to get an agent on the phone who can answer specific questions about my situation. I finally used https://claimyr.com and got through to an actual IRS agent in about 17 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. It's crazy - they call the IRS for you, wait through all the hold times and transfers, then call you when they have an actual agent on the line. The agent confirmed that they're still developing specific guidance for different partnership structures, but was able to provide some clarity on what documentation they're looking for to support exemption claims under the new standards.
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Miguel Ortiz
•The way it works is they only connect you to the IRS - they don't impersonate you or anything shady. When they get an agent, they conference you in, and you handle all the identity verification yourself directly with the IRS agent. The service just handles the waiting part. Regarding the information quality, I was able to get specific guidance about my partnership situation that wasn't available online. The agent walked me through exactly what supporting documentation they're looking for under the new standards and confirmed which forms I'd need to file if I wanted to change my previous position. Way more specific than the general website info.
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Ava Martinez
•How does this even work? I mean, doesn't the IRS need to verify your identity? How can some random service get an IRS agent for you? Sounds like either a scam or something that wouldn't actually help with complex tax questions.
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Zainab Omar
•If this actually works, that would be amazing. But $22 seems steep just to talk to someone at a government agency we already pay taxes to fund. Have you confirmed they actually give useful information or just general stuff you could get from the website?
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Miguel Ortiz
•The way it works is they only connect you to the IRS - they don't impersonate you or anything shady. When they get an agent, they conference you in, and you handle all the identity verification yourself
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Ava Martinez
I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After that back and forth here, I decided to try it since I'd already wasted hours trying to reach someone at the IRS about this Limited Partner Self Employment exemption issue. Got connected to an IRS tax law specialist in about 25 minutes. The agent actually pulled up my previous returns while on the phone and gave me detailed guidance on how the ruling specifically affects my situation. They confirmed I needed to start paying SE tax on about 60% of what I previously considered exempt, but helped identify another deduction I'd been missing that partially offsets the impact. Definitely worth it considering I'd already spent days trying to get through on my own and kept getting disconnected or transferred to people who couldn't help.
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Connor Murphy
The Limited Partner Self Employment exemption being struck down is going to hit venture capital firms really hard. I work with several VCs, and they've built their entire compensation models around the carried interest treatment. One partner I know is looking at a $170,000 tax increase for 2025. For those wondering about the Supreme Court appeal, I think it's unlikely they'll completely reverse the ruling. The trend has been toward narrowing tax "loopholes," and this fits that pattern. The best case scenario might be some compromise position that preserves exemptions for truly passive partners.
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Yara Sayegh
•Does this ruling affect S-corps at all? I've heard some people saying S-corps are now a better option than LPs since they avoid SE tax on distributions anyway.
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Connor Murphy
•The ruling doesn't directly impact S-corps since they operate under a different section of the tax code. S-corps do still allow you to take distributions that aren't subject to self-employment tax, which is now looking like an even bigger advantage compared to partnerships. The caveat is that S-corp owners must pay themselves a "reasonable salary" subject to employment taxes before taking distributions. The IRS has been increasingly scrutinizing what counts as "reasonable," especially in professional service businesses. But for many people affected by this ruling, restructuring as an S-corp might indeed make sense as a planning strategy.
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NebulaNova
Anyone else planning to amend previous returns in light of this Limited Partner Self Employment exemption ruling? My accountant says we should go back and amend the last three years, but I'm worried that would just trigger an audit.
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Keisha Williams
•I would NOT voluntarily amend returns unless absolutely necessary. The IRS has said they're developing guidance on implementation, so jumping the gun could cause more problems than it solves. I'm holding off until there's more clarity.
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Paolo Conti
For anyone wondering about the Limited Partner Self Employment exemption ruling, I consulted with a former IRS attorney yesterday. He believes the ruling will likely stand on appeal because it's based on a functional interpretation of the statute rather than adding new requirements. His take is that anyone who was truly a passive investor with no management role might still have grounds to exclude income from SE tax. The real targets are active participants using the LP structure primarily as a tax strategy despite material participation in the business. He suggested documenting your lack of involvement if you want to maintain the exemption - meeting minutes showing you don't participate in management decisions, time logs showing minimal hours, etc.
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