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Don't forget about state penalties too! The federal underpayment penalty is one thing, but many states also charge their own penalties for missed estimated payments. Check your state tax requirements as soon as possible. In my experience, state penalties can sometimes be easier to get waived if you have a reasonable explanation. Many states have their own first-time abatement policies similar to the IRS.
Do you know if California has a first-time abatement program? I'm in the same boat as OP but worried about both federal and state penalties.
California doesn't have an official first-time abatement program like the IRS does. However, they do consider "reasonable cause" explanations for penalty relief. If you can demonstrate that you didn't understand the estimated tax requirements as a new self-employed taxpayer, they may reduce or waive the penalty. The best approach with California is to file on time, pay as much as you can with the return, and include a penalty abatement request letter explaining your situation. Be specific about why you didn't make estimated payments and emphasize that you've corrected your understanding for future tax years.
Something nobody mentioned yet - if you make a payment now before filing your return, it can reduce the penalty period! The underpayment penalty is calculated based on how long the money was late, so paying now stops the clock on additional penalties.
That's good to know! If I pay the full amount I estimate I owe before filing, will that completely stop additional penalties from accruing?
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - you can also avoid the penalty if you owe less than $1,000 after subtracting withholding and credits. So if your final tax bill minus what you've paid throughout the year is under $1,000, you won't face penalties regardless of the safe harbor rules. Also, if you have irregular income (like big year-end bonuses or commissions), you can use the annualized income installment method on Form 2210. It might be more complicated but could save you from penalties if your income isn't evenly distributed throughout the year.
Could you explain the annualized income method a bit more? I get most of my income in Q4 and always struggle with this.
The annualized income installment method basically divides your tax year into periods (Jan-Mar, Jan-May, Jan-Aug, and Jan-Dec). For each period, you calculate the tax on your income received so far, annualize it, and then figure what percentage of that annual amount you should have paid by that quarter's estimated tax deadline. It's helpful for people with seasonal or irregular income because it matches your required payments more closely to when you actually receive income. For example, if you earn 70% of your income in Q4, the standard method would still require you to make equal estimated payments throughout the year, which might be difficult. The annualized method would require smaller payments earlier in the year. It's calculated on Form 2210, Schedule AI. It's definitely more complex than the regular method, but for someone with heavily weighted Q4 income, it can prevent you from having to overpay early in the year just to meet safe harbor requirements.
I got caught with underwithholding penalties last year and learned my lesson the hard way. I'm also MFS with high income. What software are people using to track this stuff throughout the year? I've been using TurboTax but it doesn't seem to help much with planning until the end of the year when it's too late.
Try TaxPlanner Pro - it lets you run multiple scenarios and updates your projected tax and withholding requirements throughout the year. Way better than waiting until December to figure out you're going to owe penalties.
I actually used to work at a bank that administered HSAs. Here's the deal: HSAs are individual accounts, not employer accounts. Think of them like a special type of IRA for healthcare. Your employer might contribute to it and facilitate the contributions through payroll, but the account belongs to YOU. A few tips: - Check if your HSA has maintenance fees now that you're not with that employer - Some HSA providers let you invest the funds if your balance is over a certain amount - Keep ALL receipts for medical expenses paid from your HSA - If you get a new job with an HSA-eligible health plan, you can roll over your old HSA into a new one
Thanks for the tips! What about using my HSA debit card now that I'm not with the company? Mine has the company logo on it - will it still work or do I need a new card?
Your current HSA debit card should continue to work regardless of the company logo. The card is linked to your personal HSA account, not to your employment status. However, if you're concerned, you can call the HSA administrator (number usually on the back of the card) to confirm. Some administrators might eventually issue a new card without the company logo when your current one expires, but the functionality should remain the same in the meantime. If you do end up rolling your HSA to a different administrator in the future, then you would get a new card at that time. But there's no immediate need to do anything with your current card.
Quick question - I'm in a similar situation but my balance is pretty small (like $300). Is it worth keeping the HSA open or should I just use it up? Are there fees I should worry about?
It depends on the HSA administrator. Some charge monthly maintenance fees ($2-5) if you're no longer with the employer that established the account. If that's the case and your balance is small, it might make sense to use it up rather than let it dwindle from fees. Check with your HSA administrator about their fee structure for former employees. If there are no fees, I'd personally keep it open since those dollars are still tax-advantaged. Even $300 tax-free is better than nothing for future medical expenses.
Have you checked your bank statements from 2021? If you paid your mortgage from the same account all year, you could add up all the payments to get close to the interest amount. The statements should show who you paid and when. Not as good as the actual 1098 but might help in a pinch.
Thanks for the suggestion! I actually thought about that, but the problem is my mortgage payment included principal, interest, taxes and insurance all bundled together. So just seeing the total payment on my bank statement wouldn't tell me how much was specifically interest. I wish it was that easy!
Just want to mention that the IRS might be quicker than your mortgage company. You can request a "wage and income transcript" directly from the IRS that shows all forms filed for you including 1098s. Go to irs.gov and search for "Get Transcript Online.
NeonNova
Just wanted to add my experience as a mobile dog trainer. I've been audited before specifically about mileage deductions, and the key thing that saved me was having a dedicated logbook where I recorded: - Date - Starting odometer - Ending odometer - Client name or business purpose - Starting location - Ending location The IRS agent specifically mentioned that having client names attached to the mileage made a huge difference in accepting my deductions. I keep a small notebook in my car and jot down the info after each drive - takes 10 seconds but saved me thousands in deductions.
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Yuki Tanaka
ā¢Is a paper logbook really enough though? I thought the IRS wanted something more official or digital these days. And do you record personal trips too or just business ones?
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NeonNova
ā¢A paper logbook is absolutely sufficient - the IRS doesn't require digital records. What matters is that the record is contemporaneous (recorded at the time, not recreated later) and complete. In fact, many tax professionals consider paper logs to be more audit-proof than digital because they show consistent handwriting over time and can't be easily manipulated after the fact. I record all trips, both business and personal. The IRS likes to see a complete picture of your vehicle usage. This shows them that you're tracking everything and properly separating business from personal use. It also helps if they question your total mileage for the year - you can demonstrate that all miles are accounted for.
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Carmen Diaz
Farrier here too! The way my accountant explained it to me: since our trucks are essentially mobile workshops and we have legitimate home offices where we maintain equipment and do business tasks, the drive to first client and from last client counts as business miles. BUT - and this is important - if you stop for personal errands on your way to the first client or on your way home from the last, those portions become personal miles. So if you drop kids at school or grab groceries on your way, make sure to separate those. I track everything with MileIQ and it's been a lifesaver. Worth every penny because it automatically detects drives and lets me classify them with a swipe. Last year I legitimately claimed over 22,000 business miles!
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Andre Laurent
ā¢Do you deduct actual expenses or take the standard mileage rate? With gas prices these days and all the wear and tear on trucks from our heavy equipment, I'm wondering if actual expenses might be better.
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