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Something nobody mentioned yet - keep track of your mileage when you're driving to get supplies or meeting clients! I do custom furniture and mileage is one of my biggest deductions. The IRS rate for 2024 is 67 cents per mile for business driving, which adds up fast. There are good apps that will track it automatically for you.
Do you need any special documentation for mileage deductions? I'm worried about getting audited.
You should keep a log with the date, starting/ending mileage, destination, and business purpose. Most mileage tracking apps record this automatically. You don't have to submit this with your taxes, but you need to have it if you get audited. I personally use an app that automatically tracks when I'm driving and lets me categorize trips as business or personal. It generates reports I can give to my accountant or use if I ever get questioned by the IRS. The key is being consistent and only claiming legitimate business miles.
For real tho, dont forget to look into sales tax issues too. Depends on your state, but most require you to collect sales tax on the stuff you make and sell. It's separate from income tax and can bite you if you ignore it.
Your problem sounds like a case of "not enough withholding" rather than "filing incorrectly." The fact that your coworkers get refunds while you owe probably means they have different withholding elections. Double check your most recent pay stub. What filing status is listed there? Some companies show this info on the stub. If it says "Single" but the withholding seems low, you might have inadvertently checked the "Multiple Jobs" box on your W-4 which can reduce withholding. Another thing to consider: are you getting any other pretax deductions that your coworkers aren't? Heavy 401k contributions, HSA contributions, or health insurance premiums can lower your taxable wages and thus reduce withholding as well.
Just checked my pay stub and it does say "Single" for filing status, but there's nothing about multiple jobs. I do max out my 401k ($22,500/year) and have an HSA that I put about $3,000 into annually. Could those really affect my withholding that much? I thought those were smart financial moves.
Those are absolutely smart financial moves! The issue isn't that you're doing anything wrong - it's that the withholding system doesn't always account for them perfectly. When you contribute to 401k and HSA, your taxable income for each paycheck is lower, so the system withholds less tax. However, those contributions don't reduce your tax brackets - they just reduce your total taxable income. If you're near a bracket threshold, this can create a withholding gap. This explains the difference between you and your coworkers too. If they're not maxing retirement accounts, their withholding calculation is more straightforward. Your situation is actually financially better (huge retirement savings), but it requires manual adjustment to your withholding to avoid the surprise tax bill.
Side question - has anyone else noticed that the IRS withholding calculator STILL doesn't work right? I used it to adjust my withholding last year and I'm still owing a ton. Do I just not understand how to use it or is it genuinely broken?
The IRS calculator isn't technically broken, but it's not great for complex situations. It works best for people with one job, standard income, and no special circumstances. The moment you add variables like education expenses, multiple income sources, or significant pre-tax deductions, it falls apart. I found the calculator on smartasset.com to be much more accurate for estimating actual withholding needs. It lets you input more details about your specific situation.
Thanks, I'll check out that other calculator. I was starting to think I was going crazy because I followed the IRS calculator recommendations exactly and still ended up owing over $2k. Good to know it's not just me!
Another option nobody mentioned - pay what you CAN by the deadline. Even a partial payment will reduce the amount subject to penalties and interest. If you have say half the money now, pay that before the deadline and then the rest on the 21st.
That's actually a really smart idea I hadn't considered. I could probably scrape together about $3,000 by the deadline. Would I just make a partial payment through the IRS website and then pay the remainder later? Or do I need to indicate somewhere that it's a partial payment?
Just make the payment through the IRS Direct Pay or another official payment method for whatever amount you can afford. There's no need to mark it as "partial" - the IRS system automatically matches your payments to your tax liability and will show any remaining balance due. Then when you get the rest of the money, make another payment for the remaining balance. The penalties and interest will only apply to the unpaid portion. Both payments would be made exactly the same way - there's no special process for making multiple payments.
Has anyone calculated exactly what the penalty would be for paying about 4 days late on $5,650? I'm curious about the actual dollar amount we're talking about here.
For a 4-day late payment of $5,650, the math works out to: Failure-to-pay penalty: 0.5% per month, prorated for 4 days = about 0.067% Ć $5,650 = $3.78 Interest: Currently about 7% annually, prorated for 4 days = about 0.077% Ć $5,650 = $4.35 So total damage would be roughly $8.13 if paid exactly 4 days late.
A friend of mine was able to claim a scam loss as a business expense because she got scammed while trying to buy equipment for her small business. So maybe it depends on if this was a personal investment or somehow tied to a business you run? The rules seem different for business losses vs personal.
This is exactly right. Business losses from scams are still deductible as business expenses if they occurred in the normal course of business. It's only personal theft losses that got eliminated (except for federally declared disasters). OP, was this investment somehow connected to any business activities or was it purely personal? That makes a huge difference in deductibility.
Don't forget to report this to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) if you haven't already! https://www.ic3.gov While not tax related, it helps build cases against these scammers. I reported a similar crypto scam last year, and while I didn't get my money back, I got notification that my report helped in a larger investigation. Felt good knowing I might help stop them from scamming others.
You can also try contacting CFPB (Consumer Financial Protection Bureau) if a bank or financial institution was involved in any way with the transactions. They sometimes can put pressure on financial institutions that may have facilitated the scam.
Thanks for the suggestion! I did file a report with IC3 already but haven't heard anything back yet. It's been about 3 months since I filed the report. I'll check out the CFPB option too. My bank wasn't much help since I authorized the transfers myself (stupid, I know), but maybe CFPB could still do something.
Freya Thomsen
One thing to consider with married filing separately that many people overlook - you both have to take the standard deduction OR you both have to itemize. You can't have one spouse itemize while the other takes the standard deduction. This can make a huge difference in your refund calculation. Also, with MFS, you'll lose several tax benefits like education credits, child and dependent care credit, earned income credit, and the student loan interest deduction. Make sure whatever tax program you're using is accounting for these limitations!
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Omar Fawaz
ā¢Is that seriously true that both spouses have to choose the same deduction method?? I had no idea! We were planning to have my husband itemize since he has tons of deductible expenses while I'd take the standard deduction. Will this really not work?
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Freya Thomsen
ā¢Yes, it's absolutely true and it's one of the biggest "gotchas" with married filing separately. If one spouse itemizes, the other MUST also itemize - even if they have very few deductions. This often means the second spouse ends up with a very small itemized deduction amount that would have been much better served by taking the standard deduction. This requirement often wipes out much of the potential benefit of filing separately, which is why it's so important to run the numbers both ways. The tax code deliberately makes MFS less advantageous in most situations to encourage joint filing.
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Chloe Martin
When I tried TaxAct last year there was a HUGE difference between their initial estimate and final amount too. For me it was because the software hadn't yet factored in the self-employment tax on my side gig income until later in the process. That made a $4,000 difference!
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Diego Rojas
ā¢I've had similar experiences with TurboTax too. These programs often show "refund estimates" before they've calculated everything. Sometimes they don't include state taxes or certain penalties until the very end of the process.
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