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Freya Thomsen

Can I claim SECTION 179 deduction for a work truck if my new LLC doesn't generate income?

I recently won a settlement from a lawsuit and received around $65K which I know is taxable income. I just set up an LLC and I'm looking to purchase a work truck for about $26,000. The vehicle would be used 100% for the business and I'd register it under the LLC name. Here's my concern - the LLC is brand new and might not generate much (if any) revenue before the end of December. I'm trying to figure out if I can still use SECTION 179 to write off the truck purchase even if the LLC doesn't make money this year. This would hopefully reduce the tax burden from the settlement money. Based on my rough calculations, I'll owe somewhere between $16-19K in taxes on the settlement. Would the SECTION 179 deduction still apply in my situation to help offset some of this tax bill, even if the business isn't profitable yet?

Omar Fawaz

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This is actually a really good question about SECTION 179 deductions! The short answer is yes, you can potentially use Section 179 to deduct the cost of your work truck against your other income, but there are some important considerations. Section 179 allows you to deduct the full purchase price of qualifying equipment (including vehicles used for business) in the year you buy it, rather than depreciating it over time. The vehicle must be used more than 50% for business purposes, which you've indicated it will be. Here's the key part for your situation: Section 179 deductions can offset income from any source - not just income from the specific business that purchased the asset. So theoretically, you could use the truck deduction to offset some of your lawsuit settlement income. However, there's a crucial limitation: Section 179 deductions cannot create or increase a business loss. This means your total business deductions (including the Section 179 deduction) cannot exceed your total business income. If your LLC makes zero income this year, you wouldn't be able to take the Section 179 deduction this year.

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Freya Thomsen

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Thank you for the detailed explanation. So if I understand correctly, I need my LLC to actually generate some income this year to be able to use the Section 179 deduction against my settlement money? If my LLC makes say $5,000 before the end of the year, would I only be able to deduct $5,000 of the truck's cost, or could I deduct the entire amount against my total income (including the settlement)?

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Omar Fawaz

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If your LLC makes $5,000 this year, you would only be able to take $5,000 of the Section 179 deduction this year. The remaining amount would have to be depreciated over time using normal depreciation methods. However, there's an alternative to consider. You can choose regular depreciation instead of Section 179. With regular depreciation for a vehicle used 100% for business, you'd get a smaller deduction this year, but you wouldn't be limited by your business income. The first-year depreciation with bonus depreciation could still be substantial and could offset some of your settlement income.

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Chloe Martin

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Diego Rojas

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I'm curious about this too. Does it handle special cases like luxury vehicle limits under Section 179? I've heard work trucks over 6,000 lbs have different rules. Would this tool know about those distinctions?

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Chloe Martin

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StarSeeker

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Freya Thomsen

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StarSeeker

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Zara Ahmed

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you've properly documented that truck is being used 100% for business purposes. Keep a mileage log and all receipts. If you get audited and can't prove the exclusive business use, the IRS will disallow the deduction and you'll end up paying those taxes plus penalties and interest. Also, be aware of recapture rules with SECTION 179. If you claim the deduction and then later use the truck for personal purposes or sell it, you may have to recapture some of the deduction as income.

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Freya Thomsen

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That's a good point about documentation. Do you recommend any specific apps for tracking mileage? And how detailed do I need to be with the log - just start/end odometer readings or do I need to note every stop?

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Zara Ahmed

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I've had good luck with MileIQ and Everlance for tracking business mileage. Both automatically detect trips and let you classify them as business or personal. For audit protection, you'll want to record the starting and ending odometer readings, date, business purpose, and destination for each trip. You don't need to document every single stop if they're all part of the same business purpose, but you should note the overall trip details. The IRS loves to target vehicle deductions during audits, so good documentation is essential. Take photos of the odometer readings periodically as additional backup.

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Luca Esposito

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Have you considered leasing instead of buying? Might be a better option if your LLC won't have much income this year. Lease payments are a business expense that can offset business income even without dealing with SECTION 179 limitations. Just a thought!

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Nia Thompson

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Leasing isn't always better for tax purposes though. With a lease, you can only deduct the actual payments made each year. When purchasing, even if you can't use Section 179, bonus depreciation might still give a larger first-year deduction. Plus owning builds equity.

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